catnip Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Today on one of my discord servers the members were talking about folks having their locked vaults raided by members of other tribes. This was on PVE servers. It didn't matter whether you had the vault pincoded or not. Evidently there have been raids done on multiple servers, not just our Rag server, but also some Exinction servers they were playing on. Has anyone else been experiencing this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Never heard of it yet but id imagine something to do with ORP? PC?Console? I know on unofficials ive played on PVE mode sometimes boxes cant be locked with ORP (im a little hazey on the ruleset for this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELFLYNNRAD Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I was told that it happened on Official Ragnarok 68 pve. Items stolen from locked vaults. the vaults were not pin coded. I was also told another tribe caught the thief in the act and did a screenshot and was planning on making a report. All this was in the past 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Can confirm this is a thing talked about since a while ago. please investigate locked vault raiding exploit in PVE @CtrlAltDebug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessy89 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Is it just vaults or are all locked things at risk as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kage95 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Any screenshoot or prove ? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarki Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 if this is indeed a thing and players are worried about it. Simple remediation: 1. Dont leave anything important in vaults that are easily accessible 2. Pin Code Vaults 3. Dont make base easily accessible and close all doors (AT ALL TIMES) 4. Store things in Bears or other Utility dinos that are locked away in a building Good luck, this might help until WC fix the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenRoc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, Anarki said: if this is indeed a thing and players are worried about it. Simple remediation: 1. Dont leave anything important in vaults that are easily accessible 2. Pin Code Vaults 3. Dont make base easily accessible and close all doors (AT ALL TIMES) 4. Store things in Bears or other Utility dinos that are locked away in a building Good luck, this might help until WC fix the issue. 1. good idea. Put Bps and other stuff in tames. My favs atm are Argent, Gasbags, Phiomas, and Equus 2. From rumor, I hear that pincoding doesnt stop the thieves. 3. hackers can glitch inside fully locked bases. I have no photo proof of this, but I have seen photos, still rumor. He said, she said. 4. I'm working on that now, better safe than sorry. Bears are good too imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, GreenRoc said: 1. good idea. Put Bps and other stuff in tames. My favs atm are Argent, Gasbags, Phiomas, and Equus 2. From rumor, I hear that pincoding doesnt stop the thieves. 3. hackers can glitch inside fully locked bases. I have no photo proof of this, but I have seen photos, still rumor. He said, she said. 4. I'm working on that now, better safe than sorry. Bears are good too imo. Have you ever gotten suck inside somebody's base because you are on a fast mount, minding your own business, and a base loaded around you trapping you in because of poor server fps? It sucks. These guys don't have to hack to get in a locked base-the game practically opens the door. I'm hoping the big s+ walls help with this (fewer components = faster loading). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catnip Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Anarki said: if this is indeed a thing and players are worried about it. Simple remediation: 1. Dont leave anything important in vaults that are easily accessible 2. Pin Code Vaults 3. Dont make base easily accessible and close all doors (AT ALL TIMES) 4. Store things in Bears or other Utility dinos that are locked away in a building Good luck, this might help until WC fix the issue. One friend reported that a friend of theirs on an extinction server had both locked and pincoded vaults raided. Didn't matter if there was a pin code or not. He also recommended using purlovia, reapers, or basilisks as vaults since they can be buried and other players can't see them. As for doors being closed. Sounded like that was a nonsequitor to the raiders. They had no problem getting in. From what I could surmise by googling it, this was also a problem back in 2017 during early access. My guess is that one of the recent updates allowed them to once again use that exploit, or they found another way to exploit the locked vaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted January 25, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2019 To be honest, I don't necessarily think there is an exploit allowing players to access locked vaults. Vaults are known to be accidentally unlocked easily. Especially when people are used to use "E" instead of "F" to access them because as soon as there is some obstruction, the option will be "Unlock" instead of "Access Inventory". For example: And a few pixels away: This used to be way more frequent before they fixes the usage of the station in front of a player dismounting a creature but this is still very common. So yeah, while an exploit of some sort might be a possibility, unless there is an actual report of the method used I would rather tend to believe people accidentally unlocked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli4 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: To be honest, I don't necessarily think there is an exploit allowing players to access locked vaults. Vaults are known to be accidentally unlocked easily. Especially when people are used to use "E" instead of "F" to access them because as soon as there is some obstruction, the option will be "Unlock" instead of "Access Inventory". For example: And a few pixels away: This used to be way more frequent before they fixes the usage of the station in front of a player dismounting a creature but this is still very common. So yeah, while an exploit of some sort might be a possibility, unless there is an actual report of the method used I would rather tend to believe people accidentally unlocked them. 99% sure this is it, I see it fairly often on other peoples bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holycraposaurus Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 *is usually never on the forums* i agree that the accidental unlock thing seems likely, but ill just keep stalking this thread and hope for some official confirmation on stuff im paranoid and my gasbags are storage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 If it is a possibility, would assigning a tribe ranking fix that? I would think it'd essentially make it so you have to be in tribe to access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Or people are using the game saves to access the pin codes from single player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Lycan187u said: Or people are using the game saves to access the pin codes from single player... Players don't have access to game saves of official servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Ofc we do there's a list that can be downloaded at any Givin time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: Players don't have access to game saves of official servers To find your Official PC Server save file from the list, just hover over the drop down menu and scroll through the list; you can also hit Ctrl+F on the keyboard and type your server name or number to quickly find your server. I didn't know how to post the link to the page wazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lycan187u said: Ofc we do there's a list that can be downloaded at any Givin time Source please. I don't believe you because they made a whole show about releasing legacy server saves for shutdown servers. I am sure they did not release current, running official (not legacy) server saves. This is the page I am looking at: https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/server-backups/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted January 29, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted January 29, 2019 Only legacy PvE are available for download, not the main cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Not sure how to do it but describes how to get offical saves as well I can't on my cellphone I'll check later on pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lycan187u said: It's at bottom describes how to get offical saves Now, back to the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 any pin-coded storage box can be broken into on pve i found this out a few years back when doing trades for boss fights back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: Now, back to the thread! In between those red lines states to find your offical server saves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted January 29, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Woodsman said: any pin-coded storage box can be broken into on pve i found this out a few years back when doing trades for boss fights back in the day People were using macros testing all the possible combinations until it opens but since the developers added a randomized timer between failed attempts. For example, if you miss the pin-code you wont be able to unlock it for like a minute even with the right code. While this doesn't really prevent cracking the code, it greatly reduce the probability that someone will sits for days in front of your storage (if they can only input 1 pin every minute, they would need ~7 days to try all the 10k combinations opposed to the ~3 hours it used to take in the past). 1 minute ago, Lycan187u said: In between those red lines states to find your offical server saves... This is still only legacy PvE for people that wants to move and host their world themselves. The main cluster isn't and won't be available for download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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