Interface5 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Valguero shouldnt be free Like the title says but to be more specific and it shouldn't come with the base game you should need aberration to play it. If this was the case then wc could still sell possibly more copies of aberration and be able to include all the aberration Dino's in valguero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronguyman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherBeachNoob Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Valg has no rock drakes/reapers/basilisks. Still like Aberration. But Rag on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Interface5 said: Valguero shouldnt be free Like the title says but to be more specific and it shouldn't come with the base game you should need aberration to play it. If this was the case then wc could still sell possibly more copies of aberration and be able to include all the aberration Dino's in valguero. None of the content in this game is behind a paywall except for the maps themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, SaltyMonkey said: None of the content in this game is behind a paywall except for the maps themselves. Well, some dino and engram specifics too unless you're rolling those all into the map itself. Phoenix- Paid DLC SE Mana- Paid DLC Extinction Titans- Paid DLC Extinction Reapers and Basilisks- Paid DLC Aberration Tek Sleeping Pod- Rockwell Fight on Paid DLC Aberration Just to name a few. I don't mind personally and I'm with OP that Valguero and any future maps should be paid for. I mean, where's their revenue coming from currently to keep servers up much less maintained and improved? The game can't be selling like it was. Maybe they get a cut of private servers paid for that ate running ark? I thought I read they didn't but obviously I'm not in their financial department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemcrystal Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The "paywall" is not steep. Wildcard is grace compared to Bethesda and Electronic Arts. Heck, even crappy 2d fund raisers are more expensive. Wildcard is my favorite company to date for bang for your buck - combine with Steam Sales and this game is steal. Yes there is engram dlc purchase paywalls but seriously the dlc's are cheap just buy them already. And you don't need those engrams they act more like cosmetic quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Well, some dino and engram specifics too unless you're rolling those all into the map itself. Phoenix- Paid DLC SE Mana- Paid DLC Extinction Titans- Paid DLC Extinction Reapers and Basilisks- Paid DLC Aberration Tek Sleeping Pod- Rockwell Fight on Paid DLC Aberration Just to name a few. I don't mind personally and I'm with OP that Valguero and any future maps should be paid for. I mean, where's their revenue coming from currently to keep servers up much less maintained and improved? The game can't be selling like it was. Maybe they get a cut of private servers paid for that ate running ark? I thought I read they didn't but obviously I'm not in their financial department. All you’ve listed is content locked behind a paywall on official. Remember a vast number of the player base aren’t under the same constraints. Also, Ark is free on Xbox game pass so maximising sales isn’t their intention, bringing the game to all available outlets might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Well, some dino and engram specifics too unless you're rolling those all into the map itself. Phoenix- Paid DLC SE Mana- Paid DLC Extinction Titans- Paid DLC Extinction Reapers and Basilisks- Paid DLC Aberration Tek Sleeping Pod- Rockwell Fight on Paid DLC Aberration Just to name a few. I don't mind personally and I'm with OP that Valguero and any future maps should be paid for. I mean, where's their revenue coming from currently to keep servers up much less maintained and improved? The game can't be selling like it was. Maybe they get a cut of private servers paid for that ate running ark? I thought I read they didn't but obviously I'm not in their financial department. Remember you can get all of that while owning the base game .. so not really locked behind a paywall at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwishPapaSweets Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Compared to other video games i played ark is by far the most bang for my buck on both console and pc. Still for the rock drakes i would like to at least be able to add them and thier nest in via ini setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The Center was free though? And Ragnorok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, PFM said: The Center was free though? And Ragnorok? Both those and Valguero were created as mods. They weren't original WC creations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Aylana314159 said: Both those and Valguero were created as mods. They weren't original WC creations. Isn't that also true of Valguero? And even if that were the case, how is that relevant? It doesn't matter to the consumer how exactly the map was created for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, SaltyMonkey said: All you’ve listed is content locked behind a paywall on official. Remember a vast number of the player base aren’t under the same constraints. Also, Ark is free on Xbox game pass so maximising sales isn’t their intention, bringing the game to all available outlets might be. Expect game pass is not free. Devs get their share from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, PFM said: Isn't that also true of Valguero? And even if that were the case, how is that relevant? It doesn't matter to the consumer how exactly the map was created for this game. All 3 free DLC maps were created by members of the modding community. It should matter to the consumers. It's the support of the modding community by both players and WC supporting mod authors that encouraged these maps to be created. Imagine Ark where the devkit never existed and no mods were ever created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aylana314159 said: All 3 free DLC maps were created by members of the modding community. It should matter to the consumers. It's the support of the modding community by both players and WC supporting mod authors that encouraged these maps to be created. Imagine Ark where the devkit never existed and no mods were ever created. So then it's no different than The Center and Rag but you aren't complaining about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Luewen said: Expect game pass is not free. Devs get their share from that. Wildcard get a share from people who don’t own Ark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, PFM said: So then it's no different than The Center and Rag but you aren't complaining about those. I am not complaining at all. Just stating that WC made modded maps Free DLCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, PFM said: So then it's no different than The Center and Rag but you aren't complaining about those. Nice strawman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, SaltyMonkey said: Wildcard get a share from people who don’t own Ark? You think that devs give their games out to game pass for free? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Luewen said: You think that devs give their games out to game pass for free? lol So Wildcard get a share from people who don’t own Ark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, SaltyMonkey said: So Wildcard get a share from people who don’t own Ark? That's one why to think of it. But it's like Netflix you pay for all the crap you don't watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Aylana314159 said: That's one why to think of it. But it's like Netflix you pay for all the crap you don't watch. How big is the share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, SaltyMonkey said: How big is the share? That info is always going to be a secret. Its handled by contracts for companies like Netflix, I would assume its similar for games subscription. When the contract is up and new pricing negotiations begin things might get dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uueerdo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Interface5 said: Valguero shouldnt be free Like the title says but to be more specific and it shouldn't come with the base game you should need aberration to play it. If this was the case then wc could still sell possibly more copies of aberration and be able to include all the aberration Dino's in valguero. Do you work for Bethesda?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Uueerdo said: Do you work for Bethesda?? Bethesda paid big bucks to allow mods on console, they aren’t complete trash lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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