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So legacy won't get the DDoS protection or better transfering only the new cluster? Way to take a huge dump on the players that got you through to launch and tested your game for you. Good to know that the players that took a gamble and bought a game preview and did your testing for you aren't as important as the ones that waited until the dirty work was done to purchase the game.

How long have you played this game? pvp you cant report dupers/cheaters on legacy anymore pve you cant report griefiers, people pillaring around you, blocking you in your base, building bases out of foundations on all the metal spawns(last one is quite often on my server) Without support its purge night 24/7

Well said, we're not mad about servers being wiped, we're mad we were lied to about it Like you said where's the devs? They aren't even in the studio working on the game. They aren't on here explaining their actions to the people that made them rich, they are at Gamescon trying to promote more lies. On the bright side, my wife works at Gamestop and in a 8 hr period 21 people came in and cancelled their preorder of Ark, Word is getting around.

I really must congratulate you! No support for legacy servers! A permit for the people, the already exaggerated player. Those already blocking the half server, or new people exclude. I had hoped it would get better and not worse! Now, where you have to sever and change miscellaneous players on other existing servers ... It is already very strenuous the important access points like the RED Ark on my server are completely blocked .... Or new people son egoisten meaningless are blocked simply because they do not want any new people ... By your no support announcement, which is probably really unpleasant ... I know that you want to move new potential players to buy the game, but also think of the players who have been playing the game for years ...

@ExcessEvil and any who support this decision. Sorry to say but there is no defending this change of plans at the last minute. Would you ever trade with someone that takes your trade and gives you something completely different than what you agreed upon? The biggest problem here is what everyone has been strung along with promises of preserving their time sunk into playing the game, and a few days before release it all changes. It seems like they said what they needed to keep enough people playing to try some things out then cut bait and switch. Their stance they took months ago on server wipes and restructuring is what kept people playing. Changing at the last minute is not about Early Access or not, it is about integrity. There is none here. This is exemplified further by the silence from the devs in this thread.

This is some of the Dirtiest Stuff wildcard has done (which is saying alot) They wait until 5 days before they delete the servers to present this list. Then they announce that 33% of all servers will be deleted instead of the previously announced 10%. Wildcard is one of the worse gaming companies I have come across.

Any news concerning transfer from one prim+ server to another?

A-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y agree with this. To be honest it feels so much like a scam. I wonder how the game will really play at release. Will the bugs be gone? no more stuttering? no more lag? no more rubberbanding? no more crashes? Did they do something about the resources zones so people can't build on it? Did they fix the bad rendering when approaching base(s)? Did they improve the mechanics when building so we can actually entirely close our walls without any gaps/holes? So many questions.. yet 0 answers.

The sad truth. The trailer vs gameplay is like a well writen book vs a badly adapted movie.

Yeah i did...only on 2 ocassions i never got any help at all....

But the actual gameplay is not near of how the trailer is represented. Running dinos while bugging over the place is what they don't show the new players. Catch em like pokemon they say.

Wildcard at it again with the Wild-cards tricks.

They made the game we funded it when we bought it

R.I.P Ark basicly idiots that funded the game dont get any benefits allthey get is a slap on the wrist and be like ktybye

The OP of this thread clearly states that Legacy servers will not receive Customer Support, that is the support ticket system where you ask for help, and that legacy servers will still receive future updates, fixes and content, including Ragnarok and new DLCs.

even mega tribes as you say(there's none on my servers) dont go to a certain area every 24h, doesnt matter, my point is not all servers have tribes with 10+ people, so going to the place where they placed pillars( especially with this new "feature" where people dont need to demolish anything it gets auto destroyed after the timer goes out, my point is its going to get worse without any support

I think it's also pretty amazing that this thread is now one of the hottest commented announcement threads ever, in just 24 hours, and still not one word from the development team with any word for the countless upset customers. The best we get is a pre-half-hearted apology as literally hundreds of people sit here condemning the lying being done by @Jat and the team about release dates, server support, and deleting of more servers then told, with less reaction time then told, and that's on top of directly saying they wouldn't be messed with before that if they had a population.

It's a tough decision that had to be made. I see ur upset with last minute changes, i was initially too. They only get one shot at an official launch. Wiping servers with low pop has to be done from a purely business stand pount. If wc bankrupts running too many servers...gg. locking out legacy servers from the new officials is a no brainer. And we all know why. no support for legacy is an odd move though. I suspect this might change to a more limited role in the future as their revenue stream increases. We'll see.

wild card noun noun: wildcard 1. a playing card that can have any value, suit, colour, or other property in a game at the discretion of the player holding it. 2. an opportunity to enter a sports competition without having to take part in qualifying matches or be ranked at a particular level. Im thinking WC is doing what a wild card does..... turning the game upside down, changing the rules. So disapointed atm with you guys. Wish you will reconsider this.

Your decision to not support Legacy servers after numerous lies and misleads, is causing mass hysteria. Now people are quoting the game as they feel extremely discouraged and unsupported. Many believe you'll be getting rid of Legacy servers very soon due to your misleading information, how quickly you change your mind, how you keep back tracking on what you say or promise and your lies. Most see the fact you deny support for Legacy as a sign that Legacy servers will be soon cut, as they look at it thinking then what is the point? I chose PVE for a reason, I want to build and be secure to grow, not be bamboozled into less than 5 days to scramble to another server that most likely will be cut, as well. It's very disappointing rhe amount of lies and how unprepared you guys were. You couldn't even order the servers you were wiping in a clean, clear order to make sense. It's literally like you threw a list together and said here you go, bye. Truly only seems you care for new customers, even though your old customers are what kept your game growing and financed including fixing bugs and giving crucial feedback. You said once this month that you rather pay to keep servers up for people, but instead you lied. So how can people truly have faith when you say one thing and continue to do another. Just don't say anything at all, at that point or don't promise things you don't intend to keep. If you were wanting to minimize servers, then why didn't you just let people be able to transfer to ANY server for a temporary time period instead of making a whole new section called Legacy Servers? That way people had time to permanently migrate to new servers, be forced to fill those servers up more because you'll then have limited amount of servers that will be available. Then you have people on High populated servers, cut the old ones. If you're going to update Legacy servers with the dupe patches, then I personally don't understand the point. You have been too worried about full release, when your game isn't ready for full release. I would have also been okay with ragnorak being a DLC to buy. Some of these decisions are really going to cost you and it's disappointing because I like the game, but if something like this happens to Legacy or Legacy servers get over ran by "trolls" and abusers, then I am quiting for good. To me there is no point to go to these "new servers" because what you're doing now, can happen to ANY SERVER, including these new ones you're releasing. So logically you're just not able to be trusted because no server regardless of new or Legacy, either or tjem can be wipe at moments notice. So why lose my stuff now and start over, just for this to happen as soon as I build up? I'm not really in for that.

Ok I don't know about the cheaters and why legacy servers are going to be a thing now ....Now ive never cheated in the game neither has my tribe we sunk a lot of hours, days , and even months into this game and now its like a slap in the face so I will say it was great while it lasted but I cant I mean I wont give another hour to the game this was a total blackball move so I say this ,"I wish you the best and maybe you can atleast give an apology too early supporters "

So what happened to being supportive of the ones that have helped by buying this game in early development there should still be support for legacy servers I guess I need to play Conan Exiles now and be done with this game ....Sorry for early support not counting for anything but your pocket

Pretty much. They couldn't do the wipe so instead they are just gonna starve their players who stayed loyal through all of the bugs. It's a lovely slap across the face.

Just to be clear: Does this mean that I since I have bought this for the XBOX One, I can then host a server on either, and then play with my wife on e.g. the console and myself on the PC? (Currently we are playing Single-player together on split-screen on the XBOX One, but even on a rather large Full HD TV some things are rather hard see/read).

QQ some more... Too many servers are barely populated because people think this game is Minecraft and can build bases from one barrier to another... I don't know what people think was going to happen.... A new player joins a server.... pillars, Gates, and giant bases everywhere.... no where for a player to even start.... on top of that the tremendous lag caused by all this.... An even bigger problem is now those "populated" servers are going to be even more laggy with all of the new arrivals making the migration.... Imo: Wildcard needs to lower the build and tame cap even further, and allow large blooms of areas around metal, crystal, obsidian, and even survivor notes that can't be built on or around.

normal times for months in gather rate I got 2 stone per pick up, on 3times I was getting 6 per pickup, now Im getting 1 stone, DILO did they now lower normal gather rate without telling us!??!

From Jat's response he made it seem the only difference would be you cant transfer, they're lying trough their teeth, 30day notice of wipe turned to 4day 10-33% how can we trust anything they say anymore

Complete support means Complete.

Would much prefer having map wiped but be allowed to keep X amount of dinos rather than have no support at all on legacy. I would think that many/most of the duped items/creatures would then disappear? Granted some will still remain but with the new security measures being deployed at release, the same problems should not be incurred. Would just like a solution where dedicated players that have been here since the beginning and helped shape this game into a great seller that it is, be rewarded. There is no reward in getting to keep the stuff gathered over the years and receive 0 support for any issues, with the looming threat of getting wiped in the coming weeks regardless... Maybe get to keep what can fit into the ob for dinos? @Jen @Jat

29th August.

My husband and I supported you guys since day 1. We almost bought the game for our son. But this bull of not supporting legacy servers and wiping so many of them at one time is stupid. Its absolutely crooked to do this. All the hard work everybody put into this game will go to waste. Ill be looking at how much it'll cost to host my own private server with the save file if it comes down to it. You guys have ruined ark completely and totally for your legacy players. Most game developers are kind and thoughtful of their legacy crowd. You guys just crapped all over us. Every.Single.One.Of.Us. #TiredOfLies

Wild card is a joke

wow.... you guys really raptored up this time. You're going to lose a LOT of people because of this.

Wow, when you see stuff like this happening, it is usually from a game that has been released for a few years, and they are trying to save money where ever they can. You never expect to see this with a game that is officially coming out for release. Wonder what that tells us about the current state of things............/end sarcasm

because they are taking down all of hardcore #boycottArk

they are liars, and we support them

Wow, I can't believe they will no longer be offering customer support to Legacy servers. We helped BUILD this player base and your game and you are going to shaft us like that? That is pretty messed up to be honest. Shame on you Ark.

No support to legacy servers... "Thanks for putting up with all our BS, now go F yourselves" Awesome!

Well, we should be used to them lying to us. Flyer nerf rework (that never came) and now this is just the latest lie. 33% != 10% of the lowest population servers. did someone at wildcard fail math?

So we supported you for years but now you won't support us? The people who helped you better the game? Tell me why I should continue playing.

NO support on legacy servers? So they are just making this to force us to move to new servers...

So, no customer service to all the people that help you fix the game by dealing with the issues and reporting them. All current issues will never be fixed? But we can't transfer servers to a new server that won't have the issues? Makes sense. ?

Man ... lot of crying here. Been there since day one. Have to start over.... that's Ark. Saying you hope they get sued ....? Pssssh Alot of the crying is also over not getting to retain thi mgs that were acquired through underdeveloped, exploited, bad means. I know not all, but a lot. I honestly wish every single server on everything would be wiped retail day. Yes in would lose all the awesomeness I've built up for a very long time. Oh well, .... DO IT AGAIN! Just .... stop .... whining ! Be grateful we have this awesome game at all! Also the claim that they do not support players is not only ridiculous, but just silly. That team bust their ass in this! Stop crying

And it's still going to be Wednesday for many many more hours.