Aldor Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Toni said: You wanna servers with good performance? Or you wanna laggy/rubberbanding/crashing servers like its now? Some times it needs to restrict some things which are eating much performance. For ark the platforms/tamed dinos and rafts are eating the most performance. So it makes sense to limit this things. They're limiting the wrong things time and time again, and at best this is merely a band-aid fix for the problems that they themselves have created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Toni said: You wanna servers with good performance? Or you wanna laggy/rubberbanding/crashing servers like its now? Some times it needs to restrict some things which are eating much performance. For ark the platforms/tamed dinos and rafts are eating the most performance. So it makes sense to limit this things. No problem with that....AFTER THEY REMOVE KIBBLE FARMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Toni said: You wanna servers with good performance? Or you wanna laggy/rubberbanding/crashing servers like its now? Some times it needs to restrict some things which are eating much performance. For ark the platforms/tamed dinos and rafts are eating the most performance. So it makes sense to limit this things. I would like to see an answer to my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megar Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, YUSHOETMI said: It makes zero sense to PvP as opposed to PvE. In PvP not many tribes have alot of platforms as they tend to get killed quickly.. Unless your'e an alpha or mega then the likelihood is you won't have many platforms In PvE you could effectively stake a monopoly on the platforms on a map, I have seen it happen on many servers where the limit is hit and the "alpha" tribe will make you pay for them to remove a saddle from one of their dinos so you could do it, but in those cases once they have removed it the entire server will try to place another so they have the extra slot. This removes that as every tribe can now have 40 saddles without structures on them. Plus given the fact that a saddle containing a structure is alot more advantageous than a mere dino without a platform w/structure they should have an increased hit on the cap. Dunno where they got the idea for 19 tho. LOL, on PvP, every battle Bronto (you don't have to be a mega alpha tribe having various servers to have those) must have a 1x1x1 or something to cover you while on the Bronto, same goes for the Paracer and Quetz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avaraxius Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Toni said: You wanna servers with good performance? Or you wanna laggy/rubberbanding/crashing servers like its now? Some times it needs to restrict some things which are eating much performance. For ark the platforms/tamed dinos and rafts are eating the most performance. So it makes sense to limit this things. How can you say that this wil increase server performance as you have kibble farms with above the tribe limit, this only counts probably to the server limit aswel. This definitely is not a real sollution to server performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldor Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, Toni said: You wanna servers with good performance? Or you wanna laggy/rubberbanding/crashing servers like its now? Some times it needs to restrict some things which are eating much performance. For ark the platforms/tamed dinos and rafts are eating the most performance. So it makes sense to limit this things. - Tamed dinos no longer lay eggs. - Egg nests can now be found and looted in the wild. - Tamed Oviraptors now loot nearby egg nests and have a weight reduction on eggs in their inventory. - Wild Oviraptors can now give random eggs when killed and looted. - Platform saddles now limited to 5 per tribe, regardless of whether they have structures on or not. A platform does not count towards tame limit. - Tek Stasis Chamber: Tribes can store up to 50 dinosaurs inside the chamber. - Tek Transmitter now provides access to Boss arenas so there is less need for transport Quetzals. I'd welcome any of these changes over the nonsensical change they're doing, and my tribe would gladly kill off half of our dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesurvivor Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 this severely will handicap us xbox users with already low tame cap 200 tame cap we have 2 bases, one plateform saddle for each, that takes up 38 tame slots of our already low 200........ than if our server gets raided and we put a structure on a bronto platform that brings us up to 57 tame slots.....so more than 25% of our tame space gone in a flash if boats count to thats another 19 tame slots which brings us to 79 slots ......... i really hope they adjust the math for us xbox players with lower tame cap...or realize this is not the way to do it and do away with this all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Aldor said: - Tamed dinos no longer lay eggs. - Egg nests can now be found and looted in the wild. - Tamed Oviraptors now loot nearby egg nests and have a weight reduction on eggs in their inventory. - Wild Oviraptors can now give random eggs when killed and looted. - Platform structures now limited to 5 per tribe, regardless of whether they have structures on or not. A platform does not count towards tame limit. - Tek Stasis Chamber: Tribes can store up to 50 dinosaurs inside the chamber. - Tek Transmitter now provides access to Boss arenas so there is less need for transport Quetzals. I'd welcome any of these changes over the non-nonsensical change they're doing, and my tribe would gladly kill off half of our dinos. - Reduce time and quantity of kibble needed to tame dino with kibble. Oh and Stasis Chamber needs to be in industrial category. So its available to everyone on hi lvl or it wont do much needed performance impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avaraxius Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 they gives us make the titanboa tameable but they add a 'punishment' of platforms saddles with structures that count 19 how we are going to tame these if we hit the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwishPapaSweets Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I say remove the 19 tame count and put a 10 platform per tribe. Xbox would hurt alot more than PC with only 180 from just one creature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcookedX Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I see where the Devs are going with this.I see both sides of the field on this but as a player this is got to be the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst changes I have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawsh Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 another change that is not thought through at all, its almost hilarious just HOW out of touch with their own game the devs seem to be, "hey look at these fun platforms you will never be able to use because after your taming/farming platforms you sure as raptor wont have any slots left to use any bronto or paracer platform", what a JOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataclisto Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Lets say 1 pve tribe has 1 platform on each dino that has a platform. You've just removed 100 slots from our 500 tame count, a 3-5 platform per tribe limit would be better then this, ... people are going to monopolize on this otherwise, make alt tribes and put platforms on all their dinos, then sell tame slots to people on pve due to server caps... You only need 20-30 dinos to force a 500 slot takeover towards the tame limit now if this takes effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUSHOETMI Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Megar said: LOL, on PvP, every battle Bronto (you don't have to be a mega alpha tribe having various servers to have those) must have a 1x1x1 or something to cover you while on the Bronto, same goes for the Paracer and Quetz. Yeah and now raiders are going to be severely impeded on how many battle bronto/paracer they can use given the hit it will take on the cap. Which is a good move. Also stopping the monopolization of platforms on PvE is a good move. With increased performance will likely come increased dino caps. You won't remember this soon. Edit - Keep on being salty and facepalming, doesn't make me incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardO Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 This has been needed for awhile...just don't agree with how they implemented it. Platform saddles are brutal on server performance with all the collision checks, but why not just limit the number of saddles a tribe can have rather than bouncing it against tamed dino numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracul Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 While annoying, I dont see how this will really effect pvp - bit more costly but just slap platforms/exploit huts on 40 dinos, raid go home demo a few huts and remove the saddles, tame to replace whatever died in the raid. Rinse repeat, make fun of wildcard and pvers as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiImZech Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Quote - Platform Saddles are now limited to maximum 40 saddles per tribe. Each platform saddle (with structures) counts as 19 tribe tame slots (?PersonalTamedDinosSaddleStructureCost=19 & ?MaxPersonalTamedDinos=40). hold up. need some clarifications if I got nothing on my platform saddle, then I don't add 19 to my tame slot? man I just have beds on my quetz to use as tracker this seems a little overboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiImZech Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I just have beds on quetz to use as trackers is that a little too much to have in ark.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatrix Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I just logged back in after the patch and my tame limit shows the exact same numbers as it did before the patch. Now I'm not really sure how to interpret the patch notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerstuck Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I just hope it counts only dinos ''with equipped'' platforms in the 40 limit. That way you can put the platform in the dino's inventory when not using and have ''1-5'' tame slots used for that. The 19 slots for built structures is dumb. The better option would have been a platform saddle counts as 1 tamed dino, every added structure costs +1 dino. So if you want a flying house, well it will be equivalent of 50 dinos, but if you only have 4 foundations, 4 ceilings and 4 ramps (for transporting rexes as example), well that only costs you 12 dinos. It's a good compromise in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgirl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Does that mean that one animal with a platform saddle counts as 19 animals?? And if so WHY????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffyPony Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Probably to discourage A) raids in which people bring multiple platform saddle Brontos to tank (with accompanying protection for rider), and B) to reduce lag on servers from excessive platform building. That said, I think a per-tribe Platform limit is probably more effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewcm Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 One animal, with platform saddle and structures on the platform would count as 19+1 = 20 tames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Im not sure but it might be the final nail in the coffin for me and ark ~ We only have 5 dinos with platforms built on and that will be half our limit on xb when we get this update that is nuts (we are already at dino limit on xb so not sure what will happen) ~ My boyfriend said they made a comment how built platforms cause performance issues ~ What is next boats? I can't see this causing more lag than a base so this just seems like another way to tick off the legacy crowd and clear up their precious servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristopher56 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I can live with it as I only really have one platform dino anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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