tlc TLC ideas!

[blazybolt]

TLC pass 3 would be an amazing thing for the game right now. Many of water creatures have been neglected and they don’t have special abilities. Also many land dinosaurs like the carno have almost no purpose to tame. It would be better if TLC 3 could help some of these creatures get their usefulness back!

[Iriamachina]

I literally just want dung beetles to pick up poop, oviraptors to pick up eggs and the pheonix to learn how to stand. These are small changes but honestly would impact a huge amount of game play. Especially for crafters and breeders. And the pheonix looks dumb as hell flying there like an idiot. 

[WafflePancake]

19 hours ago, Kodking194 said:

maybe instead of an alpha rex it could be a rex with a nesting bonus, where it is extremly agressive and gains a big melee and resistance buff. also if there are any other rexes nearby they should all aggro if u enter the nest zone

Ohh, didn't think of that! Nice one!

[Udam]

UPDATED! 

 

added some Dinos i forgot!

 

also im think of ideas for the Titanosaur so if you got some ideas for that Start throwing them at me!

[WafflePancake]

Here are my TLC suggestions:

-More Tek Dinos. I'm not saying saturate the game with Tek Dinos, but a few more would be nice. Like maybe a a Tek Megalosaurus, which could be useful on Aberration. Or a Tek water Dino. All the Tek creatures we've got so far have been land/air based. I think a Tek Sarco would be cool, or, since the Sarco has already received a TLC update, how about a Tek  Megalodon.

-Speaking of Megalodons, how about making them a greater ocean threat? Right now when one is out on the ocean with a boat, the only real worry is the Leedsicthys. How about giving the Megalodon the ability to lunge from the water and snatch people off rafts. Or at least do SOME damage to rafts, not as much as the Leedsicthys, but even modern sharks will be hostile to boats in the water, and Megalodons are supposed to be fierce, not just swim about while boats are nearby.

-Dino nests. I find it weird that only Wyverns, Drakes, and Deinos have nests to take eggs from. I think it would be cool for ALL dinos to have nests that are located in various parts of the maps. Naturally, taking them will aggro nearby dinos. Could have it be that all dino nests are guarded by Alpha dinos, which ups the danger factor of stealing them. 

-To go with that point ^ up there. Alpha Herbivores. 

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[fr15287]

Here is a list with a few suggestions I posted on Reddit, which combines both my personal ideas as well as input from other users:

 

Araneo

• Ability to climb on most surfaces, similar to megalania ability, but without stamina drain

• Ability to shoot a thread working as a temporary zip-line or grappling hook

• Ability to set sticky traps

 

Megalodon

• Ability to grab players and smaller creatures in the mouth, similar to megalosaurus ability, but underwater

• Ability to grab players off of their mounts

• Ability to jump out of the water and catch anything near the surface, or people on exposed rafts

• Ability to detect enemies and their status, similar to abilities used by parasaurs and dire wolves, but underwater

• Ability to inflict bleed damage

• Upon making a target bleed, wild megalodons may come to aid a tamed megalodon without immediately becoming hostile

• Tracking wheel, similar to moschops harvest wheel, but with a targetable detection ability that expands in range with increased levels

 

Carnotaurus

• Ability to use their horns to damage stone structures

 

Sabertooth

• Increased movement speed

• Ability to sneak up on players and smaller creatures, and then pounce on them from behind

• During a pounce, an ability to suffocate players and smaller creatures (this would give the oxygen stat a new purpose)

• Ability to inflict bleed damage

 

Titanoboa

• Constrictor ability

• During constriction, an ability to suffocate the victim (this would give the oxygen stat a new purpose)

• Infrared vision ability, similar to the snow owl ability

 

Carbonemys

• Ability to take cover in shell, similar to doedicurus ability

• Resistance to cnidaria stun effect and temporary immunity

 

Diplodocus

• Ability to use a tail swipe and inflict damage if health drops below a certain point, for example 50%

 

Lymantria

• Ability to climb on most surfaces, similar to megalania ability, but without stamina drain

• Ability to shoot a thread working as a temporary zip-line or grappling hook

• Ability to continuously produce silk

 

Mammoth

• Increased health

• Increased carry weight

• Pack bonus

• Trumpet ability to scare smaller creatures, similar to parasaur ability

• Ability to use trunk and tusks to carry players and small creatures

• Ability to use trunk and tusks to pick up old structures or structures belonging to other tribes

 

Kairuku

• Immune to cnidaria stun

 

Achatina

• Ability to produce achatina paste by simply feeding it berries

 

Pelagornis

• Ability to harvest prime fish meat

• Barrel roll spin ability dealing high damage, similar to pteranodon barrel roll, but only usable underwater

• Toggleable soar ability enabling flight for extended periods of time at the cost of maneuverability

 

Pulmonoscorpius

• Greatly buff the torpor in it's sting attack against wild animals, making it a viable option for knockout tames

• Pincers are able to harvest prime meat

• Pincers can grab and hold onto smaller creatures

• Sting attack can be used while holding a creature

 

This is by no means a completed list. If you have any additional ideas, feel free to suggest them.

Most of these points are separate suggestions. They don't necessarily need to come in a bundle.

[Kodking194]

i am with @BlueberryJackal on no creature si useless, but there are creatures that out do others making the other creatures quote on quote "useless"

may be give carnos a charge ability and can stun or cripple on impact like wiith the trike.

 

[EssentialFrenzy]

CARNO SUGGESTIONS!

Visual overhaul

I dont believe carno needs or should have a weight reduction to meat.  A carno also shouldn't have a ramming attack since it is believed that their horns were likely used for mating.

The carno should have a gnash.  Possibly with a twist.  The carno should also have a roar to frighten smaller creatures for a short time, causing them cower for 2-3 seconds.  The roar should also be able to give the a self courage buff of sorts for a duration, maybe 10 seconds or so.

 

BRONTOSAURUS SUGGESTIONS!

Visual overhaul

Rather than the bronto having a roar or a immunity to gnash, it should have these abilities imo.

First the bronto should receive the stomp attack, which can deliver a cripple status to creatures, reducing movement and damage output. 

Instead of immunity to gnash, I believe it should just take reduced damage from gnash.

 

DIPLODOCUS SUGGESTIONS!

Its model isn't horrible, but it could benefit from a visual overhaul.

A new running animation would be very nice.

The diplodocus NEEDS to receive a lightning quick tail whip attack that can stagger.  The stagger can only be applied every 7 seconds, or whatever period of time is seen to be balanced.

 

QUETZAL SUGGESTIONS!

Visual overhaul

The quetzals landed position should be and upright posture allowing it to better walk on ground.  I believe they should also function much like the tapajera when wild.  They should have the ability to land in the wild, but when approached, they quickly take off.  

I personally dont believe that they should be able to pick up large creatures because they themselves do not have a large muscle mass.  I also dont believe that they should have platform saddles.  I know that some of this portion may be an unpopular opinion, but I would hope that their level of use and overall fun factor would increase with my other suggestions.  The upright posture would make them much more elegant and add to the wow factor.  This would however completely rule out platforms.

Instead of picking up things like mammoths with their legs, they should pickup medium creatures with their beaks.  It makes more sense this way.  A bird of flight today doesn't have powerful legs, they have powerful necks for pecking and carrying in their beaks.

The ability to toss some creatures away could also be a cool feature.  Idk what its exact purpose would be tbh, but it seems like it could just be something neat.

Some scientists believe that they would spot prey from the air, then land and devour the smaller prey, then take off once again.  Rather than swooping by and grabbing prey.  This would be a neat mechanic to have them land and be hostile towards humans and smaller mounts.  This bring a larger sky threat than argentavis, without jumping to something as intense as wyverns.  This would also hopefully slightly increase spwan rates of quetzals.

Giving them a sort of call (roar essentially) would add to their completion as a creature.  

 

[divisd1]

Yeah there are a lot of dinos that look like trash right now and are super glitchy (plesi having nightmarish head, bronto's legs literally coming off of its body as it takes a step). More TLC passes for the dinos is a must, especially since this game is actually released now and no longer in early access. The models and animations should be up to par.

[KingOfAshes]

On 12/14/2022 at 9:27 PM, loudplatipus said:

Honestly I love the thery but its model is real outdated and i think it needs some new abilities, Another thing is that it is very small compared to the IRL version so I'd like to see a size increase. A new ability that i would like to see is a stabing attack. I also think that it should be slower.

I think Therizo is probably the most versatile creatures in the game as it is able to harvest most resource types and fight almost as much as a Rex. Updating the model would be desirable for sure, partly because the small amount of different coloured areas makes the visual variety extremely small(I'm surprised they didn't make X versions etc to address it). I don't think it really needs any new abilities apart from maybe a small ability to jump just to differentiate it a bit more from creatures of it's class and a small weight reduction on the resources it harvests (or carrying weight increase)

[moshbeast321]

Flyers:

• Argentavis pick works like the original Argentavis (not laggy/unreliable/more like Ptera pick).

• Snow Owl - Remove Freezing entirely. Allow it function only as a scout flyer with the ability to dive like a Griffin and use Snow Owl vision, or only allow it to freeze itself to heal/reduce damage. (Freezing is an unfun CC mechanic that ruins any form of fun in PvP fights). If it's not nerfed increase raise time to 7 days to better reflect the monumental power that this cancercell dino has.

Water:

• Mosasaurus - Can turn on the spot similar to Tusoteuthis using Spacebar, immune to Tusoteuthis grab. Gestation reduced from 8 hours to 4 to be more in line with Tuso.

• Plesiosaur - Can turn on the spot similar to Tusoteuthis using Spacebar. Gestation reduced from 8 hours to 4 hours.

• Megalodon - Can turn on the spot similar to Tusoteuthis using Spacebar. Gestation reduced from 8 hours to either 2 or 4 hours. Gains Tek Helmet effect on anything below 75% hp.

• Baryonyx - Can no longer stun players off a Dinosaur that is being ridden (can still stun the dinosaur though), Stunning an enemy makes it immune to stuns for 20 seconds similar to Snow Owl immunity to prevent being CCed to death

• Eel - Allow it to be slotted into a Dinosaur's saddle via Fish Basket to function similar to HLNA for the Dinosaur, gives the Dinosaur the ability to slow targets for a few seconds (with a long cooldown) or gives it the ability to supercharge the Dinosaur increasing it's movement speed temporarily. Gestation reduced from 5 hours to 2.

• Angler - Can be slotted into a dinosaur's inventory via fishbasket similar to HLNA. Accompanies the dino providing a light source that scares off Eels/Cindaria. Makes the Dino immune to Eel effects. Gestation reduced from 5 hours to 2.

• Basilosaurus - Need's a HP nerf probably and they need to fix the surface buff not applying in caves despite those caves being more or less at surface level (because everyone lives in caves).

• Dunkelosteus - Weight reduction to Obsidian and Crystal. Gestation reduced from 8 hours to 4.

• Diplocaulus - Creates an oxygen bubble around itself that allows players to restore oxygen and stamina like the Genesis mechanic. Gives players a reduced version of the Lazarus Chowder buff for a couple of minutes after leaving the bubble.

Land:

• Rhino - Needs to be MASSIVELY nerfed, probably the biggest problem with the game currently forcing everyone to use Meks to defend against them. Gestation increased to 8 hours. 7 day raise time. Revert Plant Z nerf to specifically effect this Dino.

• Daeodon - Allow them to eat basically anything organic (berries, seeds, mushrooms, etc). Allow Rare Mushrooms to return 100 food per mushroom.

• Pulminoscorpius - Allow it to passively generate a toxin substance that can be converted to Medical Brews, similar to how some water creatures generate Oil.

• Araneo - Creates temporary ziplines that last for a few hours and can be used bi-directionally without any sort of equipment, or allow the Araneo itself to craft a version of the zipline equipment similar to the Horse. Allow it to transfer to Aberration.

• Phiomia - Allow them to be slaughtered like the Sheep. Tamed/Raised Phiomia should give 2000-3000 meat when slaughtered. Give them a long raise time but make them very easy to raise (similar to the Gacha on Wandering). Gestation reduced from 10 hours to 4 hours. 7 day raise time. Auto-wandering allows them to forage for food to raise themselves (has to be enabled).

• Diplodocus - Let it function as a battering ram that can damage Metal/Tek Doors. Players riding in the saddle should be immune to player only turrets but the Diplo takes increased damage per player riding the saddle.

• Allosaurus - Allow the non-pack leader Allosaurus to give a damage amplification roar similar to the Yutyrannus' fear that amplifies the damage of all other Allosaurus' to the targets, including amplifying the bleed effects. This gives the supporting Allosaurus ways to support each other by buffing each others damage. Make it cap at 4 stacks so that groups of 5 Allosaurus are worth riding. Make Allo Packs cap at 5 so that more Allos creates more packs allowing a pack leader per every 5 Allos. Give the Allo an option that allows you to set a preference for being a Pack Leader or a Supporting Allo.

• Carno - Allow the Yutyrannus supercharge it with it's buff making it 10 times stronger. Make it deal more damage to Allosaurus and provide a "Guard" effect to nullify the effects of the above Allosaurus changes so that it functions as a counter. Allow it's right click to have a very small knockback effect so that it can bully anything the size of a Paracer or below by knocking them around.

• Gigantopithecus - Give it a slot for a new item called the Tek Implant. The Tek Implant massively raises the intelligence of the Gigantopithecus unlocking increased functionality. You can use the NPC AI from ATLAS to allow the Gigantopithecus to become a NPC. Let it man player mounted turrets or rocket turrets, let them farm basic resources like fiber/flint/thatch and have them return the resources to a dedicated storage, let them use melee weapons or pistols, etc, possibilities are endless.

• Kentrosaurus - Return it to it's glory days. Make it not effected by cryosickness and make babies return no damage. Make it one-shot kill Rhinos if they hit them fully charged. Let them Impale Rhinos.

• Mek - Cannot damage players. 50% movement speed reduction. MCSM cannon one shot kills Rhinos on direct hit, massive damage on splash. MRLM deals massively increased damage to small flyers such as Pteranodon, Argent, Tapejara, etc. MDSM shield removes the ability for Rhinos to charge for 30 seconds or within the shield.

• Roll Rat - Improve turning radius so it turns faster than a Bronto or allow it to roll backwards. Allow it to damage Tek Turrets.

• Rex - Redesign it's roar effect so that it's not based on dinosaur level and isn't a complete meme.

• Sabertooth - Let it prowl similar to Rock Drake camouflage. Gestation reduced from 4 hours to 2 hours.

• Moschops - Revert the organic polymer nerf so that farming Mantis is viable again.

• Mesopithecus - Allow it to open enemy player doors on platform saddles. Takes 90% less damage from "big" dinos.

• Oviraptors - Allow them to collect eggs.

• Titanosaur - Improve their stamina and stamina regeneration so that they can actually function and deal some sort of damage in the few minutes they have to live before they get deleted by Gigas and Meks.

• Thorny Dragon - Give it Turret Mode. Allow damage to massively scale it's torpor generation so it function like a Velo turret that knockouts creatures. 99% reduced effect against players. Only 1 torpor effect can work at a time so you can't spam a million of them.

• Thylacoleo - Increase it's damage or allow it to buff the firerate/damage of weapons shot whilst riding it. Reduce recoil sway of Fab Sniper and Longneck to Shadow Steak levels when shooting whilst riding. Reduce Arrow draw time of bows whilst riding it. Allow it to be transferred to Aberration.

• Giganotosaurus - Balance rage generated by other Giganotosaurus so that it takes more bites to enrage but increase the rage generated by non-Giganotosaurs dinos such as the Rex, Therizino, etc so that they can also enrage it. (make Giga fights are bit more interesting other than one two enrage you're dead or the other guy is).

• Dung Beetle - Auto wandering collects poop. Increase Fertilizer weight so that as they collect poop they get weighted down and can't move (to balance the automation and give the player a sign that they're ready to be collected).

• Dimetrodon - Reduces Gestation timer, similar to how the Oviraptor reduces the Mating Interval. Or Reduces baby food consumption. Or Allow it function as the underwater equivalent of the Oviraptor.

 

In a similar vein of the TLC pass I think a good idea would be to add a Dino equipment slot that allows you to slot in crafted items that provide benefits to your dino. This would allow players to invest a bit more into the dino to grant them an effect that would counter something that is extremely annoying with the current meta gameplay. You could only equip 1 item at a time meaning you would have to choose between them. Here are some examples:

• New item: Blinders that provides the current area reduction to the Plant Z effect. Dinos are also less susceptible to fear effects. Revert the previous Plant Z nerf so that Dinos without the Blinders are effectly similar to how they were pre Z nerf. 

• New item: Dinoshoes. Gives immunity to Plant Y effects for 20 seconds upon triggering a Plant Y trap, 5 minute cooldown. 

• New item: Saddle Chain. Upon getting picked by a flyer you are returned to the saddle after a 2 second delay. 5 minute cooldown.

• New item: Thermal Emission System. Upon being frozen provides immunity to freezing effects for 1 minute. 5 minute cooldown.

• New item: Blademail. Returns a small amount of damage to attacking dinosaurs (5%). Provides 100% damage return to Rhino charges.

• New item: Anti-Radiation Dispenser. Automatically triggers Mushroom Brews inside a Dino's inventory. Extends the duration of Mushroom Brews effects to 10 minutes per Mushroom Brew.

 

[Kodking194]

2 hours ago, WafflePancake said:

If the Rex nest is guarded by an Alpha Rex, it won't be a free egg. I doubt a Bronto could take down an alpha Rex.

maybe instead of an alpha rex it could be a rex with a nesting bonus, where it is extremly agressive and gains a big melee and resistance buff. also if there are any other rexes nearby they should all aggro if u enter the nest zone

[MASTERCHEF11791]

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[Cowgirl]

On 4/23/2019 at 2:34 PM, divisd1 said:

Yeah there are a lot of dinos that look like trash right now and are super glitchy (plesi having nightmarish head, bronto's legs literally coming off of its body as it takes a step). More TLC passes for the dinos is a must, especially since this game is actually released now and no longer in early access. The models and animations should be up to par.

I dont mind the legs doing wonky things on the brontos (it's kind of funny really) but I would appreciate if they fixed the AOE, it has a big bend in it that makes it miss so much stuff.

[Spinosail]

TLC 3 Wishlist

I had previously posted a thread for TLC suggestions, but I can no longer seem to find it. Given WC's dedication to open communication and bugfixing as of late, the potential for a third TLC patch seems possible if they continue to listen to our suggestions. In this case, what creatures would you like to see get a TLC pass in the future, and what new abilities would you give them? Just as an aside, TLC has really only been for dinos introduced prior to June 2016, as after that is when WC really started to diversify dino abilities and roles. Of course, feel free to suggest changes to dinos after that, but I'd like to steer discussion in the direction of ideas for the OG batch of creatures, as they're the ones who desperately need it.

 

Here are all of the suggestions I've compiled over my time playing the game:

 

Anglerfish

 

Visual overhaul - No. It looks fine, though I don't use them often so I'm unsure if I speak for the majority in thinking so.

Though useful for silica pearls, the Angler is otherwise lackluster in its stats and slow, so to fix that:

• Secondary attack that intensifies its lantern, stunning small nearby aquatic creatures (Coel, Salmon, Cnidaria, Ammonite, and Eels) and creating a large flash of light underwater like Plant Z (with a cooldown). Useful for escaping from Mosasaurus or Tusoteuthis, or stunning nearby fish to eat them.
• Passively produces Angler Gel in its inventory (similar to the rate that the Achatina produces its paste).
• Lantern shines different colors when detecting nearby enemy creatures and max level wild creatures (like the shoulder pets from Aberration, making it useful on the Island and the unofficial maps for finding high levels).

 

Araneo

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. As one of the first purely "enemy" creatures in the game (it wasn't tamable until a while after the game was released into EA), the Araneo has struck fear into the hearts of spelunkers, but it isn't quite as scary when encountered now. Give it an update, and make it absolutely horrific - it's supposed to be a nightmarish combination of spiders, after all.

Tamed Araneo suffer from mobility issues. They're slow, and they can't do much. Let's fix that:

• Tamed Araneo can now climb walls (but not ceilings) like the Thylacoleo, making it a slow but versatile mount.
• Araneo can create temporary (to prevent spamming) organic ziplines with their webs, allowing them to traverse terrain even more freely.
• Biting human-sized prey or smaller (drag weight 35 or less) that has succumb to torpidity will wrap it in a sticky web; prey then quickly suffocates - you no longer have to wait for spiders to bite through your armor to eat you when knocked unconscious. Also adds a bit more danger to caving.

 

Archaeopteryx

 

Visual overhaul - No. While it can be easy to confuse with the Microraptor at a glance, the Archa is fairly good in terms of model quality.

The Archa's worst problem is that it was advertised as a parachute alternative, but requires it to be held, unlike a shoulder pet. To fix that:

• The Archa is now a shoulder pet. To activate its gliding ability, double-tap the jump key as you would a Glider. Its gliding style remains the same.

 

Brontosaurus

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. Please. The Titanosaur and Diplodocus outshine the Bronto in terms of model and animation quality.

The Bronto does a lot as a turret soaker, but why not let it do a little more; it's the largest permanently tamable herbivore, after all. Here, we've got:

• For a secondary attack, the Bronto can perform a rearing stomp, dealing massive damage (Base 180) without gathering. Attack obviously has a lengthy animation to prevent spam.
• A "roar" that scares large wild carnivores (basically any carnivore that would otherwise attack a Bronto, including Gigas) into retreating for approximately 30 seconds, as long as the Bronto is above 50% Health. Carnivores would attempt to move as far as they can from the Bronto as possible, but readily attack non-Brontos nearby. Two minute cooldown, no effect on tamed creatures.
• Immunity to the "Gnashed" effect. The Bleed effect entirely circumvents the massive Health pools that Brontos have. Considering that a Bronto is already unlikely to survive an encounter with a wild Giga, this betters their odds. Thematically it makes sense as well, as a big animal like the Bronto would have thick skin and make it better-protected from such attacks.

 

Carbonemys

 

Visual overhaul - Yes, desperately. The turtle is one of the more rigid creatures in the game. The player model also has a tendency to change dimensions when saddled on the turtle.

An early sight on the beaches, Carbonemys falls out of use the further inland you travel (with the exception of being tamed to soak turrets), so let's rectify that:

• Can duck into its shell, pulling the rider in with it; greatly reduces physical damage taken but make the turtle immobile (will also sink in water). Wild carnivores will lose interest when the turtle is in this state, same as with the Doed. Projectile and explosive damage values remain unaffected to prevent soaking abuse.
• Faster swimming speed, as mentioned in the dossier.
• "Pacifist" buff - the longer a Carbonemys goes without attacking and hitting another creature, the more resources it will gather (up until 3x vanilla server rates after 300 seconds out of combat). Dossier mentions it isn't a violent creature, so it ought to benefit from acting like one.

 

Carnotaurus

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. We know from recent updates that WC's artists can make their designs a lot sleeker than they used to.

The Carno is the "Cheetah" of the Island's carnivores, according to its dossier. So let's give it some of those attributes:

 

• The obvious base-speed increase, particularly for sprinting. A sound pass on its walking and running footfalls would be nice too, making it less loud.
• The species' name is "Pressor," or "Crusher" - therefore, give it a charge with a twist. The Carno will rush forward after a quick wind-up, running in whatever direction it is steered. If the Carno pins a creature of equal or lesser drag weight (250) with this attack, the creature suffers from the Suffocating debuff (which already exists in game) over 4 seconds and loses all of its Oxygen, as the Carno knocks the wind out of its lungs.
• A 50% weight reduction on meat in its inventory. The "meat-eating bull" can become great for meat runs, especially in the mid-game.
• Reduced damage from attacks to its back, courtesy of its osteoderms.

 

Diplodocus

 

Visual overhaul - No. I personally think the Diplo looks fine, though some might disagree.

The Diplo is underutilized because it has no viability outside of hardcore RP servers and occasionally in PvP to push buried creatures to the surface. As the smallest sauropod in the game, it really out to offer more in terms of utility:

 

• A 10-second stun attack, utilizing its whip-like tail. The Diplo can't damage enemies, but that doesn't mean it can't have a means of escaping from attack. Even its dossier mentions that it will attempt to escape from predators after repeated attacks; this would give it a means of doing so.
• Owing to its friendly nature, the Diplo ought to have some sort of positive effect on allied dinos. With its species name, "Island Chieftain," it could provide a physical resistance buff to lower level allied creatures around it.

 

Mammoth

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. Recent creatures handle fur textures a lot better, and their base models are less clay-like. Not to mention, the mammoth is the only model with a photo-realistic anus. Its movement animations are also incredibly janky, especially when one looks at how elephants actually walk.

The Mammoth needs its own role. The Anky and Doed are in a good spot only because they're the best at what they do, while the Mammoth faces competition with no unique features. Beavers generate dams in the wild and have a saddle smithy, Therizinos have an efficiency multiplier and are one of the few viable herbivore combat mounts, Thorny dragons shoot spikes and can destroy/harvest corpses as carnivores, and the Roll rat can carry multiple passengers and, well, roll. Most of the aforementioned also get a weight reduction on wood (even though the Mammoth gets a bigger reduction than most, it doesn't necessarily make it unique). Giving it a platform saddle would just intrude on the Paracer without giving the Mammoth much (not to mention awkward to carry with a Quetz and make it unable to ride rafts because of how platforms are coded). And ultimately, the Mammoth is an iconic animal - to be relegated to resource collection when other creatures so easily fulfill the role seems like a waste, especially since it was only given the role because no other creature in early access could harvest wood efficiently. I feel it would benefit from the following:

 

• Tusk attack works while moving; this allows it gather wood (and no berries) on the go and cover ground faster than the Beaver (The Better Mammoths mod did this and it works wonders).
• Use the Herbivores_Large tag; makes no sense that the Mammoth is attacked by Raptors when it's only a head shorter than the Paracer (Again, from Better Mammoths).
• Slight Hypothermal protection for the rider.
• Base health increase (850->1000). The much smaller Daeodon and Griffin have higher base Health and are tankier for it. The Mammoth is described in its dossier as being physically tough, so a Health buff wouldn't hurt.
• A trumpet that gives the Mammoth and surrounding allies a temporary movement speed and stamina regen buff; pairing a Mammoth with a Yutyrannus and a Daeodon would make for a desirable trio of combat support creatures. Adds the missing character that the Mammoth is missing.

 

Megaloceros

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. If you compare the Ovis to the Megaloceros, they look like they came from two completely different games.

Let's try this:

 

• I've read conflicting things about the male Megaloceros and its ability to cause the "Bleed" effect. If it isn't working, it ought to be fixed.
• ARK doesn't have cows, but the female Megaloceros could provide a nice substitute during imprinting. For mammalian babies, keeping a female Megaloceros around would keep babies fed up until they hit the "Adolescent" stage. This would allow for players to log off without having to worry about their baby mammals starving overnight.
• Wild Megaloceros should be alert - if they detect a creature on an enemy team (wild carnivores or tamed creatures), they should immediately flee. It makes little sense for a cautious and defenseless animal to just let a Sabertooth, Wolf, or strange human run up to it. As a part of the alertness, Megaloceros could also be immune to stun attacks from Microraptor and Purlovia.

 

Megalodon

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. We know that WC can do fish a lot better than they used to.

The Megalodon is overlooked compared to other ocean predators because of its smaller size and lesser damage output. Ideas include:

 

• Frenzy ability - The Megalodon gets a meter on its HUD similar to the Rhino and Giga. It fills up as the Megalodon attacks and kills creatures, draining slowly over time. The meter imparts speed, damage, and physical resistance buffs, making the Megalodon scary in close-quarters combat. This works surprisingly well as most wild creatures in the ocean are on the same team, meaning wild Megalodon are less likely to obtain the buff and become a threat to new players in the water.
• Base damage (40->50) and health (600->700) increase - let it be a real killing machine like its dossier suggests
• The Megalodon has a keen sense of smell, allowing it to detect weakened creatures from far away (exactly like the Dire Wolf).

 

Mosasaurus

 

Visual overhaul - Maybe. The Mosasaur appears very bloated and could benefit from a more streamlined appearance.

As a "terror of the deep," the Mosa really doesn't live up to its name. Here's what it might benefit from:

 

• A secondary Devour attack - when an enemy creature is below 10% Health, using this on an applicable creature (drag weight 200 or less) will cause the Mosa to simply swallow it whole. The Mosa instantly restores Food and Health (equal to the amount of Health left on the creature) from this. Cooldown of 180 seconds.
• Its presence deters Leedsichthys from attacking nearby rafts, making raft bases viable again. Raft spam does become possible again, but requires a big and obvious Mosa to be nearby and fed.
• As Piranhas flee from Sarcos, so too do Eels and Cnidaria flee from Mosasaurus (unless attacked first or attacking an Ammonite).
• Deals extra damage to Tusoteuthis, à la Sperm Whale; makes fighting them on Mosas more of a fair fight seeing as the Tuso can grapple you.

 

Onyc

 

Visual overhaul - No. I think it looks fine, though I don't use them often so I'm unsure if I speak for the majority in thinking so.

These scary bats look cool, but have little use because of how hard they are to control. Only a few minor buffs here due to their swarming capabilities:

 

• Onyc will perch upside-down from Catwalk or Ceiling Structures if there is space (also gives a unique purpose to Catwalks), rather than landing on the ground. While resting in this position, they will recover health more quickly.
• Shoulder-mountable, with a brief speed boost when thrown at a target.

 

Pachycephalosaurus

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. The poor little goat-dino needs all the love it can get, especially when its carnivore "equivalent," the Raptor, got some love.

The Pachy's always been underpowered, so let's fix that with some new toys:

 

• Base damage (10->20) and base Health (175->220) increase
• Its species name is "Mild Warrior" - to play around with that, give it a temperature related buff; it hits harder, faster, and can take more punishment at higher temperatures, but becomes sluggish in the cold. These respective buffs and debuffs would be capped, with the maximum heat buff giving the Pachy the 1.5x greater damage output and speed (0.5x less damage and speed for the debuff).
• Non-linear charging; changing directions is a necessity for its viability. The Pachy can also destroy rocks while charging, yielding some sparkpowder (but less than if its stone and flint components were mined individually).

 

Pelagornis

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. Absolutely; we've all seen the new Argentavis; WC can give us a much better bird these days.

A few items spring to mind to give Pelagornis a more unique niche:

 

• It passively generates small amounts of Silica Pearls in its inventory when left floating on water (filtered substrate in the water).
• Rider weaponry would provide a fantastic niche, as the Pelagornis would be the only Island-native flyer with the ability.
• Pelagornis traveling over water have increased speed (approximately 1.25x normal) but lose speed when flying over land (approximately 0.75x normal), allowing them to quickly circle the Island along the coast.

 

Phiomia

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. Compared to the virtually furless Daeodon, WC's modelers are much better these days, and as such the Phiomia could look less like it was modeled from clay.

I've got a soft-spot for these early proboscideans, but their definite utility is as a farm animal and as the butt of our jokes. Here's what could help them:

 

• Option to cull the Phiomia for meat (much like the Ovis), with higher Health yielding more meat and even prime meat. An early-game way to farm meat before getting a large carnivore or progressing to mutton.
• Riding a Phiomia into battle ought to draw the attention of all enemy creatures to it for a moment (activated via RMB, functioning similar to the Pachyrhino's aggro pheromone and lasting 10 seconds) - acting as a quick distraction and sacrifice.

 

Plesiosaur

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. The poor thing was one of the first aquatic creatures released in EA - it looks somewhat cartoony in comparison now.

Was unsure about this one, but here's what we've got:

 

• 3D movement, like the Tapejara - let it swim in any which direction it chooses by strafing; would make sense with the species name too.
• A secondary flipper attack, allowing it to better hit targets closer to its body.
• The Plesiosaur can now generate currents to launch itself forward rapidly at the cost of most of its Stamina; can be used to escape from situations like being grappled by a Tusoteuthis.
• Faster health regeneration and movement speed below a depth threshold, kind of like a reverse Basilosaurus. This buff makes the Plesi more useful in the deep ocean.

 

Pulmonoscorpius

 

Visual overhaul - No. I don't use them often though so I'm unsure if I speak for the majority in thinking so.

The Pulmonoscorpius ought to be an organic alternative to tranq darts:

 

• Torpor is currently dealt as damage dealt * 3 over 10 seconds. Changing that x3 to x6 would make a world of difference (A hypothetical 50 wild level, 71 tamed level Melee Scorpion would deal 834 torpor per attack while dealing 139 damage - for comparison, 300% longneck tranq darts deal 663 torpor per shot while dealing 78 damage).
• The Scorpion might benefit from having a secondary pincer attack that also grants it the ability to hold a small creature (Drag weight of 100 of less) when held, like a less powerful Karkinos.
• A second torpor-dealing attack that deals Melee Damage % x 1500 torpor over 10 seconds, with a lengthy cool-down to prevent abuse - regular stinging attacks during this time would not deal torpor, as the Scorpion's poison glands are "drained." As Scorpions can't be imprinted, this wouldn't be able to reach insane numbers. (A hypothetical 50 wild level, 71 tamed level Melee Scorpion would deal 13899 torpor - enough to drop a wild 150 Paracer and anything else with lower base torpor; this still makes shocking darts required for tames like Gigas) - This attack would be performed by holding down the C key.

 

Quetzalcoatlus

 

Visual overhaul - Yes. We all know how WC blew us away with wyverns and how good their wings looked when SE came out. The Quetz can be better. The Quetz is honestly in a decent place as is, but here is a simple and useful addition to its kit:

 

• Flying above a certain altitude increases the Quetzal's flying speed, capping to a level comparable to that of a Pteranodon. Useful for those otherwise dreadfully long flights to farm metal from less resource-dense regions.

[Spiral3]

All of the yes

[Cowgirl]

On 4/24/2019 at 6:42 AM, BlueberryJackal said:

I wouldnt give some creatures a TLC because they are useless. I enjoy taming Carnos and always try to tame them as early as possible. You also have to keep in mind, that no creature is useless. It is always important what you see in them. Considering this, there is ot a single creature that is completely useless. 

The Carno is good for killing alpha raptors. 

The female megaloceros is good for traveling

Same for the Diplodocus. And it can also knock back creatures, which can be helpful in some situations.

Carno at least needs a makeover though, its claws look like it got them stuck in a bear trap lol

[Bajinda]

Eels to be able to power  electrical none tek components. Ether viva passively charging a battery in inventory overtime or by  proximity  similar  to tek gen. The later would  increase its food consumption. Melee could increase the  range/charge. Draw back, gotta build over water. 

[Ogun]

To add onto this maybe the spider and lymantria can be tlc'ed to produce silk. Under used resource so maybe something could be added other gear perhaps? Also Im all for the tlc on carnos but I dont think they are useless. Its def an early on tame to help get you on your feet. Shorter tame times (and arms lmfao) and less resources. Def get yoyr feet wet breeding them and learning all about the process. 

[Udam]

12 minutes ago, Spiral3 said:

All of the yes

 

1 hour ago, Rico86 said:

sounds really good, as i was reading it i was thinking how they could, honestly nice ideas. 

Thank you! i was just kinda bored when i came up with most of these but some like the deer , pela , and bat i had on my mind (most of them i drew in my old notebook) so i just did all of them! 

 

again thxs for the likes!

 

but my fav is the turtle 

 

[WafflePancake]

A TLC add I'd like to see is a shoulder pet with the ability to give the survivor an attack boost. Kind of like how the Yutyrannus roars and buffs your dinos, the pet could buff the humans.

It could be the Mesopithicus. While on your shoulder, it could beat it's chest and and let out a loud screech that gives any nearby humans an attack (or defense) buff.

[loudplatipus]

On 4/24/2019 at 5:42 AM, BlueberryJackal said:

I wouldnt give some creatures a TLC because they are useless. I enjoy taming Carnos and always try to tame them as early as possible. You also have to keep in mind, that no creature is useless. It is always important what you see in them. Considering this, there is ot a single creature that is completely useless. 

The Carno is good for killing alpha raptors. 

The female megaloceros is good for traveling

Same for the Diplodocus. And it can also knock back creatures, which can be helpful in some situations.

I agree that not all dinos are useless, but when was the last time you used a Pachy a Dimetrodon or an Allo. And even if they are not useless it would still be nice to have a new model and new abilities to make them more viable and more diverse. For example The Carchar is a Giga that is easyer to tame and in many circumstances is just much better. And plus some of the models for the dinos are just outdated.

[loudplatipus]

Now this dino i know a lot of people have never seen in game that i would like to become an actual normal creature, instead of having it for 30 minutes and then it just disappears. The dino im talking about is the Liopleurodon. Now this is by far one of my favorate aquatic reptiles ever and in my opinion i think they did it a bit dirty in ark making it this creature that you never see. I think that it needs a complete overhaul (new abilities, model, and sounds). The abilities i think it should have is a damage and speed buff to any allied aquatic creatures as well as the ability to lunge out of the water and grab flyers out of the air. i think that it would also be able to turn fish meat into prime fish meat.http://images.dinosaurpictures.org/Pliosaurus_kevani_0d52.jpghttp://images.dinosaurpictures.org/liopleurodon_f0a6.jpg

[Zahlea]

6 hours ago, Kodking194 said:

i woyld like to see the spider get a tlc, make it a bit bigger and give it a grappling hook ability and zip line ability, allow it to also climb some surfaces

Let's be honest... they definitely should be able to climb roofs like the Megalania!  

[Udam]

i got my list i made and its nearly every dino update idea!

 

but i do love the angler fish! idea!

[Udam]

you had my idea lol