ascension Scorched Earth : Ascension (after the boss)

[blazybolt]

Scorched Earth Ascension

[mgnt232]

Personally I could not care any less about the story line or cinematic whatever, just give us 15 more levels lol. I feel this is ultimately what most people are after.


Especially with rockwell being basically impossible without playing ab and raising drakes. Where as the other bosses can be defeated with an army you can raise anywhere, most just want the levels. At this point no one is starting fresh on ab... so anyone that hit max level after island ascension is basically stuck

[divisd1]

17 hours ago, ToxicAntidote said:

That is true but I think a better ascension would be to have the oversser as three weaker island bosses followed by the overseer as the manticore. Then when you beat that,(like tek cave but more so arena) You teleport to the main panel and face off a programmed hyrda possessed by the overseer. Afterwards you get the cutscene. All you need is 20 dinos and it is unique enough to be worthy of a fight. 

Little known fact, the dev kit has a manticore variant of the overseer boss. So it looks like at one point they were maybe working on it.

[ElectricMoose21]

5 hours ago, Cedric said:

While I agree, a S.E. ascension would be epic, I don't want anyone to get their hopes up here.  Ascension cinematics use a ton of team resources (for months) and for the company, the story is complete for S.S.  Ascension end cinematics and boss fights are amazing, but it would probably be better to invest those resources elsewhere on other content.

You say that but the thing is most of your playerbase want this, this was one of the most upvoted suggestions despite you guys saying no, (until this recent mistake of yours).  The fact is your playerbase believes that the resources should be invested into this. This is probably  the only  content the community will accept. Simply put, a new boss, some new creatures on an existing map won't create many problems.  Aberration and Extinction broke the game to where we are now. Scorched Earth Ascension, unlike other content, i.e a new map/game mode  cannot be as harmful.  Those resources are better in this setting. 

 

Also you can tell we  want this when we still push for it after it was gone. Don't worry about getting hopes up people just want to push you guys to do it.  

[ElectricMoose21]

1 hour ago, Cedric said:

Whoops, I merged this the wrong way (caused the one with the least votes to be the primary one).  My bad!

Any way to fix this or do we have to vote again?  Just curious because I can see it still as 3rd most voted and we know that it was one of the highest suggestions. 

[divisd1]

I feel like it should be a priority though. Make the content you already have released be better by listening to what the community is suggesting. Obviously many people want it. Some for the cinematic, some for the sense of completion, and some just for the additional levels. I can guarantee you that one way to make the community happy is to focus on improving current content instead of introducing tons of new broken content. Things like working on reducing meshing, TLC passes for some of the ugliest dinos in the game, and adding in some kind of endgame scene for SE are just a few ways to do that. Plus, back in the day when the community crunches used to have Q&A sessions, Jeremy told us a Scorched Ascension was coming. We were also told a long time ago that there would most likely be some special tek engrams that we would gain from SE, like the tek wyvern saddle. Remember the Hive creature that has been in the dev kit for years? That was supposed to come out sometime, but never has as well. I feel like just saying "we feel the story is complete now" is just an excuse for not having to make an ending scene for scorched. Just my opinion. But seriously, take the suggestions from your community and treat them as actual possibilities if you are going to ask them for suggestions.

[ToxicAntidote]

1 hour ago, Cedric said:

Whoops, I merged this the wrong way (caused the one with the least votes to be the primary one).  My bad!

 

3 minutes ago, divisd1 said:

I feel like it should be a priority though. Make the content you already have released be better by listening to what the community is suggesting. Obviously many people want it. Some for the cinematic, some for the sense of completion, and some just for the additional levels. I can guarantee you that one way to make the community happy is to focus on improving current content instead of introducing tons of new broken content. Things like working on reducing meshing, TLC passes for some of the ugliest dinos in the game, and adding in some kind of endgame scene for SE are just a few ways to do that. Plus, back in the day when the community crunches used to have Q&A sessions, Jeremy told us a Scorched Ascension was coming. We were also told a long time ago that there would most likely be some special tek engrams that we would gain from SE, like the tek wyvern saddle. Remember the Hive creature that has been in the dev kit for years? That was supposed to come out sometime, but never has as well. I feel like just saying "we feel the story is complete now" is just an excuse for not having to make an ending scene for scorched. Just my opinion. But seriously, take the suggestions from your community and treat them as actual possibilities if you are going to ask them for suggestions.

 

5 hours ago, Cedric said:

While I agree, a S.E. ascension would be epic, I don't want anyone to get their hopes up here.  Ascension cinematics use a ton of team resources (for months) and for the company, the story is complete for S.S.  Ascension end cinematics and boss fights are amazing, but it would probably be better to invest those resources elsewhere on other content.

 

18 minutes ago, ElectricMoose21 said:

You say that but the thing is most of your playerbase want this, this was one of the most upvoted suggestions despite you guys saying no, (until this recent mistake of yours).  The fact is your playerbase believes that the resources should be invested into this. This is probably  the only  content the community will accept. Simply put, a new boss, some new creatures on an existing map won't create many problems.  Aberration and Extinction broke the game to where we are now. Scorched Earth Ascension, unlike other content, i.e a new map/game mode  cannot be as harmful.  Those resources are better in this setting. 

 

Also you can tell we  want this when we still push for it after it was gone. Don't worry about getting hopes up people just want to push you guys to do it.  

Clearly according to the community, the resources should not go elesewhere. You can see that this is only behind pvp concerns and pvp/pve balance changes. This tells you that people want it depiste what you said at the homestead dev stream, especially when considering you guys claim the resources are hard but there are many suggestions. The problem is you guys think new content would be better but we differ. Specifically now, new content breaks the game, an ascension boss and cutscene with new tek may rebalance the pvp meta but it won't break the game like extinction snow owl meshing or mesh holes on extinction that broke the center. Honestly we don't need new dlc or even maps right now, the only content we should this ascension.

[Vincenta1367]

WC say one day, do this, but not have the time.. now have the time, think this come soon, now with the game suggestion vote, i think to, cuz already 19 want it

[ElectricMoose21]

4 hours ago, Vincenta1367 said:

WC say one day, do this, but not have the time.. now have the time, think this come soon, now with the game suggestion vote, i think to, cuz already 19 want it

This is actually higher than you think. Its the 4th most voted because the votes got screwed up when the suggestions were merged wrongly. Those 19 are additions to at least 30 people if not more.  This goes to show the wildcard devs should reconsider saying that no. 

On 4/25/2019 at 10:57 AM, Cedric said:

Whoops, I merged this the wrong way (caused the one with the least votes to be the primary one).  My bad!

 

[Vincenta1367]

Scorched earth, price : 25e 

Ragnarock : free

Same. A ascension give more hours gameplay on SE, and complete story. AND no problem with price after that 

[Vincenta13]

On 4/24/2019 at 10:45 PM, Cedric said:

While I agree, a S.E. ascension would be epic, I don't want anyone to get their hopes up here.  Ascension cinematics use a ton of team resources (for months) and for the company, the story is complete for S.S.  Ascension end cinematics and boss fights are amazing, but it would probably be better to invest those resources elsewhere on other content.

WC said, wait game suggestion most voted, i see, Ascension for SE is asking for long time, and now this vote is on the top10 topic most voted.. so i think its a good idea to invest on this content.
The right question is not, invest in other content, and not ascension, but, invest in this content, AND other things

[LightninRage78]

18 hours ago, Vincenta13 said:

WC said, wait game suggestion most voted, i see, Ascension for SE is asking for long time, and now this vote is on the top10 topic most voted.. so i think its a good idea to invest on this content.
The right question is not, invest in other content, and not ascension, but, invest in this content, AND other things

Especially when other content will break the game. This will most likely have only minor bugs. Thats all it really comes down to honestly.  

[Vincenta13]

14 hours ago, LightninRage78 said:

Especially when other content will break the game. This will most likely have only minor bugs. Thats all it really comes down to honestly.  

yeah all patch, need a patch to patch the patch ? but np this game is so raptoring good

[THEBEAST0503]

I agree scorched doesnt really get played on anymore because of rag desert. A boss ending would make it more popular. It really has alot of potential

[Vincenta13]

5 hours ago, THEBEAST0503 said:

I agree scorched doesnt really get played on anymore because of rag desert. A boss ending would make it more popular. It really has alot of potential

whatever finally :

Spoiler

a boss ending its just normal, cuz overseer want to stop us on the island, why not on scorched earth? all map story have a cinematic, its the story, even if 2 people story from island, never transfert on scorched earth but on abberation, rockwell and Helena yes

 

[PeterManize]

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[CyanicEmber]

I still really want this.

[Frostbite128]

As many people have said in this post before, Scorched Earth needs an endgame bossfight as well as a proper Ascension. Why bother adding in new content that is likely to break the game even more when you can add/fix the current content in the game. Listen to your community they clearly want this, and they clearly care about the current game you gave crafted for them. The community really wants to you focus on what you have currently, not what you don't have.

[ParrryPoker]

4 hours ago, CyanicEmber said:

I still really want this.

I agree we all want this. Honestly the reason people on official stopped playing was cause of genny decay. That was a disadvantage that could be avoided on other maps. People still played but had main bases elsewhere because of easier maintenance. However when ragnarok came out that created another reason not to visit scorched. With or without scorched rag would have been fine but it killed scorhced.  An ascension may give incentives but maybe implement the flame turret and 3 new creatures, a winged snake, a thunerbird and cockatres(and saddle).  Tek Wyvern Saddle, Tek forge(also smelts organic polymer to poly 5-1)  and Tek Water Reservoir(when powerd generates water). Done just made scorched worth it. 

[Qwertymine]

On 4/24/2019 at 9:05 PM, ElectricMoose21 said:

Scorched Earth Ascension, unlike other content, i.e a new map/game mode  cannot be as harmful.

Another 15 levels from Ascension is a big deal, as are any new creatures or changes to the existing ones. Scorched creatures were top of the game at one point, and easily could be again if tampered with. 

[R0b0tic]

I think wild card should focus on more maps that arent better than the last ones but rather on the same scale 

valley- one huge river that floods into a ocean at the bottom of the map and the rest of the edges are just mountains with a massive valley in the middle simple maybe but more maps adds alot more variety to ark which is the same old maps idk 

 

[PileDRiver]

On 5/3/2019 at 7:20 AM, R0b0tic said:

I think wild card should focus on more maps that arent better than the last ones but rather on the same scale 

valley- one huge river that floods into a ocean at the bottom of the map and the rest of the edges are just mountains with a massive valley in the middle simple maybe but more maps adds alot more variety to ark which is the same old maps idk 

 

Seriously not a good idea. I think everyone is done with maps. New maps every year just feels stupid. New game mode and stuff.  They're just making excuses like, " if you look in the lore, you can tell" or "scorched was complete" or even "the resoucres would be better in new content." Nope all these things are just excuses. Yes you can see xp notes but that happens on all maps, no scorched earth is incomplete as Jeremy said it was coming with new engrams, you just choose not to do it and we are telling you we want the reosurces to go to this and not other content. Just saying the facts. 

[PyrocChild]

5 minutes ago, PileDRiver said:

Seriously not a good idea. I think everyone is done with maps. New maps every year just feels stupid. New game mode and stuff.  They're just making excuses like, " if you look in the lore, you can tell" or "scorched was complete" or even "the resoucres would be better in new content." Nope all these things are just excuses. Yes you can see xp notes but that happens on all maps, no scorched earth is incomplete as Jeremy said it was coming with new engrams, you just choose not to do it and we are telling you we want the reosurces to go to this and not other content. Just saying the facts. 

Seriously though lets look at the original timeline. 1 year of early acess then dlc. 1 year of early acess means tek would have been in the game. Instead you guys launched the dlc.  Simply put socrhced earth was meant to be released when the game was complete. As shown by aberration we can confirm that scorched would have had an ascension if released properly. This is evident by Jeremy's statement.  The truth is scorhced came out too early. Seriously people love scorched but in official its hard to live with the disadvantages of geny decay. Remove that and add ascension and boom great game. 

Don't ignore this because we clearly are wanting this more than anything despite your rejections in the stream. 

[Vincenta13]

59 people want it, the topic is on the top10 voted, maybe 5 now, so WC should do it.. or the game suggestion is nothing.. I hope they do what they say

[Vincenta13]

On 4/24/2019 at 10:45 PM, Cedric said:

While I agree, a S.E. ascension would be epic, I don't want anyone to get their hopes up here.  Ascension cinematics use a ton of team resources (for months) and for the company, the story is complete for S.S.  Ascension end cinematics and boss fights are amazing, but it would probably be better to invest those resources elsewhere on other content.

seriously, they ask a game suggestion most voted, and they said that.. the ascension from this map is asked for long time.. this seems like politic actual..

Seriously so bad! stop your game suggestion and do what Wildcard can do, if you cant do what people ask, close your website, do your game, and dont listen people playing game from the beginninng

[ThatPat99]

Lorewise, they definitely mentioned the Ascension in the notes. And currently, the max level cap is 135, which is a odd number. 150 is a clean even number. And the Tek is just some random crap stolen from island bosses, and it isn't even the full armor set of I remember correctly. They have the Tek wyvern saddle in the files, and I think there's definitely room for a Tek structure that can slowly pull water from the air for drinking and irrigation, which would be useful to tribes that want to build in an area without water sources. A powerful short-range Tek weapon would be cool too, such as a thermal lance that can cut through structures and armor. Scorch could also use a few new creatures with more usefulness, like a small shoulder pet that can detect nearby water