Volunteer Moderator GP Posted February 6, 2018 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2018 You all complaining that no-one has been banned, but at the same time you have no idea what the vulnerability/exploit was. It could very well be a situation where someone has exploited the vulnerability and then 100's of others have inadvertently benefited from them doing so. And if many mega tribes have used the exploit then potentially 1000's upon 1000's may have benefited. Where do you draw the line on bans and responsibility. I think the important thing here is that a clearly major vulnerability has finally been patched. Of course it's a mysterious one, but i'm sure news of what it was will come out as no-one will be able to exploit it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSeconds Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Zederia said: well, good. only good players who play by the rules should play Completly agreed but they can't at this time. Ark is dying down and there are several new survivor games where you tame dino's and survive both PvE and PvP. Wild Card knows (or at least they should) that players are not happy whatsoever and have not been happy or satisfied with any of the updates since the flyer nerf. Mistake after mistake, patch after patch to fix things they have 'fixed'. Tribes are moving away from Ark to the other games, hence the fact they don't care about cheating. As for what Jat said about this 'fixing' the problem and that is it is airtight right now is not true either. I've already said this on when they introduced the upload timers and I'll say it again. A cheater will always be one step ahead of you, so instead of putting the whole playerbase at a disadvantage, target only the ones actually eploiting it. As for the exploit, I don't think anyone is going into detail on that matter on forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluexminder Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 maybe its deleting the file that makes you not see effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasser510 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Basso said: well body bags were around but were only used recently, i also don't believe its undermeshing, duping hmm maybe but one that is around since 2015 ? the duping started with cross ark stuff.... that was 2016 good point. Well i am not really in the mega tribe scene so i can only guess. But i am happy over every cheating/exploit fix WC brings out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkipode Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It clearly shows if your powerful go and cheat:) Happyily I never played on OC and never ever will! GO and Play like me SP or Unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanek Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, GP said: You all complaining that no-one has been banned, but at the same time you have no idea what the vulnerability/exploit was. It could very well be a situation where someone has exploited the vulnerability and then 100's of others have inadvertently benefited from them doing so. And if many mega tribes have used the exploit then potentially 1000's upon 1000's may have benefited. Where do you draw the line on bans and responsibility. I think the important thing here is that a clearly major vulnerability has finally been patched. Of course it's a mysterious one, but i'm sure news of what it was will come out as no-one will be able to exploit it anymore. I don't care what the exploit was as much as I care about whether the fix will change any base game mechanics that affect everyone, exploiters and non-exploiters alike. The water breeding fix messed with stasis across the board and caused food consumption issues that lead to dino death and that, too, was explained as a fix for something that existed from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaProiettile Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I've been in several alpha tribes and I can't think of any kind of exploit that matches this description given. There are the common fairly harmless varieties that a lot of folks use that mostly improve farming as opposed to allowing one to glitch into bases and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthaNyan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, GP said: I think the important thing here is that a clearly major vulnerability has finally been patched. Of course it's a mysterious one, but i'm sure news of what it was will come out as no-one will be able to exploit it anymore. Well, if you look at what is being downloaded - all the maps and and their sublevels, then it is not hard to imagine the scope of things that could have been patched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, ZeroSeconds said: Completly agreed but they can't at this time. Ark is dying down and there are several new survivor games where you tame dino's and survive both PvE and PvP. Wild Card knows (or at least they should) that players are not happy whatsoever and have not been happy or satisfied with any of the updates since the flyer nerf. Mistake after mistake, patch after patch to fix things they have 'fixed'. Tribes are moving away from Ark to the other games, hence the fact they don't care about cheating. What suvival games in which you tame dinos are you talking about ? I know of none for consoles ? The only dino game I am hyped for is Jurassic World Evolution and that isnt even a survival game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, GP said: You all complaining that no-one has been banned, but at the same time you have no idea what the vulnerability/exploit was. And if many mega tribes have used the exploit then potentially 1000's upon 1000's may have benefited. Where do you draw the line on bans and responsibility. 2 Mega-tribes that used it should be wiped then, plain and simple. Cheating is not ok, and it doesn't matter what the cheat is. it is not a fair playing field anymore and it explains more and more how mega-tribes have been able to stay on top, they cheat to gain the advantages, and WC is not punishing them so they think it's ok. the next exploit they find they'll abuse and WC will do nothing again. Where do we draw the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSeconds Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, GP said: You all complaining that no-one has been banned, but at the same time you have no idea what the vulnerability/exploit was. It could very well be a situation where someone has exploited the vulnerability and then 100's of others have inadvertently benefited from them doing so. And if many mega tribes have used the exploit then potentially 1000's upon 1000's may have benefited. Where do you draw the line on bans and responsibility. I think the important thing here is that a clearly major vulnerability has finally been patched. Of course it's a mysterious one, but i'm sure news of what it was will come out as no-one will be able to exploit it anymore. But that doesn't make sense tho GP.. If that many people have benefitted from it and the decision has been made to not ban anyone than the next first step is to have a global wipe of all servers. That also won't happen since people will be pissed (again) and quit ark (again). So it litterly is letting certain tribes benefit more than others from this exploit. that has to be re-balanced, either by upping the ones at the disadvantage or lowering the ones with the advantage. The third option is to balance every single one and wipe it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavar Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 For all we know its something they are tracking, want people to use again and now ban them saying they were warned. A global unnamed exploit warning gives a lot of opening for them to ban who they want. Id like to know whats being fixed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmeliaRose Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Blackavar said: Id like to know whats being fixed though. Yeah me too.. a whole 8+GB of some unknown exploit fix.. more info plz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkipode Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It would be the best to Close all official Server because it only makes 10% of the whole playerbase, 90% Plays on unofficial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 if it's fixed they shouldn't have an issue revealing what the exploit actually was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cullis Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, Basso said: only used recently, cause there were no need to Body bags have been useful since forever. They only became really OP with handcuffing chairs.. I remember my tribe-mates farming with bags on grapples since forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstrihKonnash Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I think the amnesty (sp?) was given because many players would be banned after.. almost 2 and half exploit years? (no PvP player here) I do really hope they fix the duping so they remove the timer for transfering items. And yes, some further explanation would be nice from WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemplethwaite Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 They aren't going to show people the holes they are patching because it may give them ideas about other exploits. As Blackavar said it's a warning to those that might be sailing close to the edge. If you are playing clean it shouldn't be an issue to you really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klakky Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, donkipode said: It would be the best to Close all official Server because it only makes 10% of the whole playerbase, 90% Plays on unofficial! I guess thats why all official servers are tame capped.... because no one plays there. Thanks for the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyB Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Sounds like it has to do with the squid tentacles going through mesh with c4 on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klakky Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cullis said: Body bags have been useful since forever. They only became really OP with handcuffing chairs.. I remember my tribe-mates farming with bags on grapples since forever. Body bags came out last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, ZeroSeconds said: But that doesn't make sense tho GP.. If that many people have benefitted from it and the decision has been made to not ban anyone than the next first step is to have a global wipe of all servers. That also won't happen since people will be pissed (again) and quit ark (again). 2 the should wipe them, make a week of like x6-x8 and start fresh, especially if they're still doing it on the supposed "cheat-free" official servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasser510 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Klakky said: Body bags came out last year I am really sure bodybags were there for a longer time. And like mentioned got used a lot more due the handcuff feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkipode Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Klakky said: I guess thats why all official servers are tame capped.... because no one plays there. Thanks for the news If you would think Logical than you know that a mega tribe easily can tame all dinos on Server so no one else can do!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klakky Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, SmokeyB said: Sounds like it has to do with the squid tentacles going through mesh with c4 on them. It was released in january '17 not '15.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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