I am Jack's Disappointment

[St1ckyBandit]

18 minutes ago, Pipinghot said:

Oh god, I just time travelled to 2017.

^Thats probably the biggest problem with ASA.

It's hard to feel like the franchise is being pushed forward when these bugs from basically the games inception are still around.

We'll see if Scorched can buck the trend but I wouldn't bet my tek rifle on it.

[CptYarrr]

"We know this might throw a wrench in your weekend plans, and we're truly sorry about that."

Right. And you're trusted playerbase actually believed thius. In 2017. We're past that.
 

Midday first of april. Still no Scorched Earth. Or are you guys really going to say "April fools! Its been delayed till 2025...."?

[ZombiejesusX]

I was thinking they were going to do something sneaky. Perhaps with the center? Ahh a girl can dream. In the past the updates usually go out around 2-4 whatever timezone they're in. Usually 9pm est lol who knows. We could go have lunch and poof there it is.

Edited April 1 by ZombiejesusX

[Moonie1]

The lack of updates about a release is sadly "the usual". Most companies would be chomping at the bit, posting updates to hype customers up for it. Not Wildcard. They are as indifferent as a deadbeat dad on Maury waiting on the DNA results.

[SunsetErosion]

I like Trains.

Edited April 1 by SunsetErosion

[PeachSalad]

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Edited April 3 by PeachSalad
my post was hikacked

[CptYarrr]

30 Euro's for an expansion. Are you guys nutts???

 

[Shadowmistress]

That and it favoured asian players it didnt favour any european player at all 5am for us it was released.  More servers required asap!

[PeachSalad]

21 hours ago, Shadowmistress said:

That and it favoured asian players it didnt favour any european player at all 5am for us it was released.  More servers required asap!

Edited April 3 by PeachSalad

[Djangodisey]

Hello I submitted a ticket and the reason for it is that my character is stuck on the cloud, my level is 131i have completed all the bosses in alpha I have ascended also I've located all the explorer notes. I have over 1200 hours played I have all the PlayStation 5 trophies. This is the second ticket I made and I got told they couldn't help me. Back in Ark Survival Evolved they would send an arkiteck and he would help you with the character. What happened with that? I need a solution also I have bought the Bob's Tale pack and I haven't enjoyed it because my character is lost in the cloud  this is so frustrating.

[WCpromoteslaziness]

I cant believe that most of you paid for this same game as ten years ago. Its just incompetence thats keeping WildCard going as the promote it throughout the dev team.

 

All ASA is is just ark with a lil bit better graphics with crossplay and mods the same bugs are here also the same meshes! Also one of the first dupe glitches ever is back LMAO!

 

They also have the balls to try and sell people a mofo paid DLC (if you guys are desperate for money just admit it dont try and rip people off!) Which is the same price almost as a full game.

 

Where tf is ark 2 that was promised 2 years ago???

 

Rant over!

[WCpromoteslaziness]

Also the treasure map system was taken from Atlas another game these rats abandoned but in that you didnt need to pay for them

[WCpromoteslaziness]

What is with you all wanting to make your own unofficial server theres like 999999999 servers with 300 people max across them all DILO is the point??????

[VampirisNocturn]

coz most ppl dont want to play on 1x servers or boosted smalls they want boosted normal servers with mods they want and all the added bonuses of shop stores etc

[WCpromoteslaziness]

Theres dedicated single player for that of all these 999999999 servers all of them but a dozen have 0 players permanently its just dumb

15 minutes ago, VampirisNocturn said:

coz most ppl dont want to play on 1x servers or boosted smalls they want boosted normal servers with mods they want and all the added bonuses of shop stores etc

 

[Pipinghot]

On 4/9/2024 at 9:18 AM, WCpromoteslaziness said:

What is with you all wanting to make your own unofficial server theres like 999999999 servers with 300 people max across them all DILO is the point??????

None of your business, that's why.

People want private servers because people want private servers, that's all you need to know.

[Pipinghot]

On 4/9/2024 at 9:42 AM, WCpromoteslaziness said:

Theres dedicated single player for that

Not if you want to play with other people/friends.

[Zeldei]

On 4/7/2024 at 7:19 AM, WCpromoteslaziness said:

Also the treasure map system was taken from Atlas another game these rats abandoned but in that you didnt need to pay for them

Atlas isn't A studio wildcard product. 

 

[Zeldei]

On 4/7/2024 at 7:11 AM, WCpromoteslaziness said:

I cant believe that most of you paid for this same game as ten years ago. Its just incompetence thats keeping WildCard going as the promote it throughout the dev team.

 

All ASA is is just ark with a lil bit better graphics with crossplay and mods the same bugs are here also the same meshes! Also one of the first dupe glitches ever is back LMAO!

 

They also have the balls to try and sell people a mofo paid DLC (if you guys are desperate for money just admit it dont try and rip people off!) Which is the same price almost as a full game.

 

Where tf is ark 2 that was promised 2 years ago???

 

Rant over!

ASA was always advertised as just ark with a graphical, UI, and QOL update. Being surprised that it is, in fact, what it was advertised to be is a strange complaint.  That is like buying flavored bottled water and complaining it's just water with flavoring. 

Nothing wrong with paid DLC. Workers don't work for free and businesses aren't a charity. They need to show a profit.  Takes money and time in manhours to update all the maps, much less create new content. No one is ripping you off. Bob's Tall Tales amounts to roughly 10 dollars per expansion, which you don't need to buy.  The additions made are pretty good for only 10 dollars. 

As for ARK 2, a lot of people didn't care about it as it was advertised as "not ark as you know it." People wanted ARK, not ArkSouls. 

Edited April 11 by Zeldei

[St1ckyBandit]

5 hours ago, Zeldei said:

ASA was always advertised as just ark with a graphical, UI, and QOL update. Being surprised that it is, in fact, what it was advertised to be is a strange complaint.  That is like buying flavored bottled water and complaining it's just water with flavoring. 

Nothing wrong with paid DLC. Workers don't work for free and businesses aren't a charity. They need to show a profit.  Takes money and time in manhours to update all the maps, much less create new content. No one is ripping you off. Bob's Tall Tales amounts to roughly 10 dollars per expansion, which you don't need to buy.  The additions made are pretty good for only 10 dollars. 

As for ARK 2, a lot of people didn't care about it as it was advertised as "not ark as you know it." People wanted ARK, not ArkSouls. 

Then why not just sell the SE BTT for 10 bucks. Why package it with content for maps that in all likelihood wont be coming until 2025. It's a scummy predatory practice.

[Scheneighnay]

8 hours ago, Zeldei said:

Atlas isn't A studio wildcard product. 

 

Atlas is from the same publisher, and it's the publisher making the poor financial decisions that got us here to begin with.

I was really excited for Bellwright until I noticed it's also published by Snail, so it's going to be put into maintenance mode the instant it launches, just like Atlas.

[CptYarrr]

4 hours ago, Scheneighnay said:

Atlas is from the same publisher, and it's the publisher making the poor financial decisions that got us here to begin with.

I was really excited for Bellwright until I noticed it's also published by Snail, so it's going to be put into maintenance mode the instant it launches, just like Atlas.

Thats correct. 

The only reason ATLAS survived that long is due to a few very persistent serverowners who actually cared about solving issues.

Oh, just a sidenote, its fun to see alot of the same names from employees flying from ASE to ATLAS and now working on ASA.

Prepare for way more ways they going to make money. WildCard/Snail seen how it went the past 7 years for serverowners and this time they going full throttle.

[Pipinghot]

15 hours ago, Zeldei said:

Atlas isn't A studio wildcard product.

While that's technically true it misses the point that you're replying too.

1) Atlas was created from the ARK codebase & game engine, which was created by WC.

2) Atlas is owned and published by Snail, but Snail & WC are really one company. On paper they're two different entities but in reality they're one company. No matter what they say on paper, the truth is that WC = Snail.

3) Atlas was heavily cross-promoted by WildCard when it was new. For a long time many people believed it was a WC game, which is why they played it in the first place.

4) No matter who owns which game, and no matter who owns which company, his point is still true.

"The treasure map system was taken from Atlas" - that's a true statement regardless of whether Atlas is a WC product or not.

[Pipinghot]

15 hours ago, Zeldei said:

ASA was always advertised as just ark with a graphical, UI, and QOL update.

Not true. They have also said at various points that ASA is "new", making claims about lots of brand new code, all of which were obviously false. Doug Kennedy even posted it on Twitter/X at least one time.

WC has made quite a few false claims about ASA, they have not been honest about what has actually been done with the product.

15 hours ago, Zeldei said:

Being surprised that it is, in fact, what it was advertised to be is a strange complaint. That is like buying flavored bottled water and complaining it's just water with flavoring. 

Except that's not what @WCpromoteslaziness did. What he did was make fun of people who are buying used water and believing that it was new.

He didn't buy it and then complain, he made fun of people who bought it.

15 hours ago, Zeldei said:

Nothing wrong with paid DLC.

There is when a game is still in Early Access.

There is no governing body that makes rules about Early Access, which is all the more reason that players/customers should criticize companies who do it. It's entirely unethical, scummy and generally just a crappy way to treat customers.

Beyond that, ASA should never have been EA to begin with, that was also unethical and scummy, unfortunately Steam and the other platforms are find with unethical, scummy behavior as long as they get a cut.

15 hours ago, Zeldei said:

Workers don't work for free and businesses aren't a charity. They need to show a profit.

WC/Snail have made around 2 billion dollars (that's with a "B", Billion) on the ARK properties over the years, much more than enough money to make a better product and have plenty of operating revenue for anything they wanted to do. This is blatant profiteering at the expense of customers. If you want to overspend for a substandard that's your choice, but then you need to understand that other people have every right to criticize people who mismanage their own company and then need to crowd-source an inferior upgrade thinly disguised as a "new" game.

Companies do need to show a profit, and people also have the right to criticize them for mismanaging their company and their products.

[Zeldei]

8 hours ago, Pipinghot said:

Not true. They have also said at various points that ASA is "new", making claims about lots of brand new code, all of which were obviously false. Doug Kennedy even posted it on Twitter/X at least one time.

WC has made quite a few false claims about ASA, they have not been honest about what has actually been done with the product.

Except that's not what @WCpromoteslaziness did. What he did was make fun of people who are buying used water and believing that it was new.

He didn't buy it and then complain, he made fun of people who bought it.

There is when a game is still in Early Access.

There is no governing body that makes rules about Early Access, which is all the more reason that players/customers should criticize companies who do it. It's entirely unethical, scummy and generally just a crappy way to treat customers.

Beyond that, ASA should never have been EA to begin with, that was also unethical and scummy, unfortunately Steam and the other platforms are find with unethical, scummy behavior as long as they get a cut.

WC/Snail have made around 2 billion dollars (that's with a "B", Billion) on the ARK properties over the years, much more than enough money to make a better product and have plenty of operating revenue for anything they wanted to do. This is blatant profiteering at the expense of customers. If you want to overspend for a substandard that's your choice, but then you need to understand that other people have every right to criticize people who mismanage their own company and then need to crowd-source an inferior upgrade thinly disguised as a "new" game.

Companies do need to show a profit, and people also have the right to criticize them for mismanaging their company and their products.

You misunderstood.  I didn't criticize people making fun of people who thought it would be new. I am criticizing people who complained it wasn't new when it was obvious it was going to be ARK 1, but in unreal 5. It's a no duh kind of thing.  They literally advertised it as such. 

You are confusing the claim that they rebuilt the game from scratch and the game being different. I was not addressing the former, but people who complain about the latter. 

It was billed as a remaster of the old maps into a new engine that would eventually serve as the platform of continued ARK 1 style content.  You reinforce my point. Buying old water and expecting new water is dumb. 

I just watched a Neddy the Noodle video where he moans about how Scorched Earth is the same map and not some brand new map with a tek cave and more bosses. That's not the point of the UE5 update...

Being in early access is largely irrelevant.   You already paid money for an early access product, so paying more money for additional content beyond the scope of what you bought is no different. It would only be an ethical issue if they use coercion of some kind to force you to buy it or if they cut promised content you paid for after the fact, only to reintroduce it as paid DLC. 

Nothing wrong with paid DLC to inject money into the system, whether early access or not. People don't work for free. Work costs manhours.  As long as content gets delivered and you get what you bought, it is fine.  If you don't like it or want it...don't buy it.  It's really simple. If you do like it, buy it.  

So far, they have been delivering on what content they said they were going to release. And more.

How much money snail makes is immaterial to whether you can charge for content.  No company is going to just give you all additions for the future for free because you bought the base game. Be lucky wildcard isn't Funcom where they charge 20.00 for a pillow you can't sit on. 

 

 

Edited April 12 by Zeldei