vanyelxp5 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, iAmE said: It isn't just dismissing the ideas out of hand because I don't think they will work. It's a combination of doing this fight over a hundred times, possibly more, trying over a dozen "Ways" to do it. Rexes end up being the only dino that fits the bill of having: Enough AoE/Damage to clear the adds fast enough, Enough Movement speed to dodge Fireballs, Enough health to tank the boss for any meaningful amount of time and Enough damage to contribute to killing the bosses and enough Weight to carry everything you need to kill the Dragon. I've tried a whole *lot* of "Things". Therizino swapping for tanking (Biggest Herbivore you can bring to the fights, for Sweet cakes). Scorpions to "Stick" him. Galli herding. Saberteeth+guns. Turtles for tanking. Pachyrhino for trying to "Stam it out". Trike's for KB. Combinations of all of the above. I think you're sincerely underestimating the amount of time, as a "PvE" Alpha tribe, that we're had to just play with bosses and these mechanics. As for the Herbivore note, none of the Herbivores that the note applies to (This is particularly a Sauropod Mechanic, so Paracers/Bronto/Diplo), can be brought into the boss fights. I still think that not being able to bring Brontos (or at least Paracers) is just plain dumb. Ban platform saddles so people don't make invincible "armor" and they'd be fair, and well suited to dealing with a lot of the mechanics you have to keep in mind (especially the adds, a strong bronto murders everything around all at once.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis3691 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, iAmE said: It isn't just dismissing the ideas out of hand because I don't think they will work. It's a combination of doing this fight over a hundred times, possibly more, trying over a dozen "Ways" to do it. Rexes end up being the only dino that fits the bill of having: Enough AoE/Damage to clear the adds fast enough, Enough Movement speed to dodge Fireballs, Enough health to tank the boss for any meaningful amount of time and Enough damage to contribute to killing the bosses and enough Weight to carry everything you need to kill the Dragon. I've tried a whole *lot* of "Things". Therizino swapping for tanking (Biggest Herbivore you can bring to the fights, for Sweet cakes). Scorpions to "Stick" him. Galli herding. Saberteeth+guns. Turtles for tanking. Pachyrhino for trying to "Stam it out". Trike's for KB. Combinations of all of the above. I think you're sincerely underestimating the amount of time, as a "PvE" Alpha tribe, that we're had to just play with bosses and these mechanics. As for the Herbivore note, none of the Herbivores that the note applies to (This is particularly a Sauropod Mechanic, so Paracers/Bronto/Diplo), can be brought into the boss fights. Are homing rockets worth anything on the dragon? Also yes btw I'll give you that you have more experience with the dragon than I do. That seems to be where we started having the two different conversations, I was talking about the ones I had already beat as stated, and you, as clear now, was more of talking about the dragon and needing super Rex's to even come close, legitimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProHPDeskjet Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I would like to see the intervals in imprinting to be tweaked just a little bit. It would make it more fun than grueling to imprint Dinos - ProHPdeskjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PootsumJenkins Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 For a Millennia humans slept in 2-4 hour shifts. This whole 8 hour sleep cycle we put ourselves through is kinda new. Anyways seems like we always find ways to criticize Ark for it's many difficulties. If it was easy it wouldn't be fun. Buck up and set an alarm lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh4rk Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, PootsumJenkins said: For a Millennia humans slept in 2-4 hour shifts. This whole 8 hour sleep cycle we put ourselves through is kinda new. Anyways seems like we always find ways to criticize Ark for it's many difficulties. If it was easy it wouldn't be fun. Buck up and set an alarm lol Yes they did, for real life survival. Not for a video game, lol. However, that doesn't mean that I can just tell my boss I need to run home to take care of my dinos. There needs to be something you can actively do to progress your imprint instead of waiting for some RNG timer to do a very basic function. Imprinting doesn't take any skill and doesn't make breeding interactive at all. I'd like to be able to take whatever I'm raising out and have it follow me while I hunt. The exp it would have gained could build towards a higher imprint. Something you could possibly do on day when you have the free time while its still maturing, and have it fully or mostly imprinted, or more importantly, make up for imprints you won't get because you have real life duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ciabattaroll Posted March 13, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 hours ago, iAmE said: It isn't just dismissing the ideas out of hand because I don't think they will work. It's a combination of doing this fight over a hundred times, possibly more, trying over a dozen "Ways" to do it. Rexes end up being the only dino that fits the bill of having: Enough AoE/Damage to clear the adds fast enough, Enough Movement speed to dodge Fireballs, Enough health to tank the boss for any meaningful amount of time and Enough damage to contribute to killing the bosses and enough Weight to carry everything you need to kill the Dragon. I've tried a whole *lot* of "Things". Therizino swapping for tanking (Biggest Herbivore you can bring to the fights, for Sweet cakes). Scorpions to "Stick" him. Galli herding. Saberteeth+guns. Turtles for tanking. Pachyrhino for trying to "Stam it out". Trike's for KB. Combinations of all of the above. I think you're sincerely underestimating the amount of time, as a "PvE" Alpha tribe, that we're had to just play with bosses and these mechanics. Not to mention that, if there was an "Easy/Legit" way to do Dragon, we'd (Referring to both our group and those of us active on the forums) have heard about it. As for the Herbivore note, none of the Herbivores that the note applies to (This is particularly a Sauropod Mechanic, so Paracers/Bronto/Diplo), can be brought into the boss fights. I will say this: Regarding testing the different difficulties of the boss arenas, there were no imprinted dinos used for easy and medium difficulties. And yes, that includes the dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyLegacy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I completely agree with you on this one, there are certain factors such as school, work, etc. That should be thought about when considering the current situation of imprinting. Personally, I would like to see a dino sleep schedule, to make it to where players don't loose as much sleep, if any. This would not only make it more obtainable to get 100% imprinting, but also make it more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Currently imprinting a wyvern and no I'm not staying awake/forcing myself awake to get 100% lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spedizzo Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This is why I am so so against official server wipes. We have guys in our tribe who have been staying up for weeks because they are try-hards and 100% imprint on everything, literally sleeping in cycles of 3 hours for the last x amounts of months to the point of irritability and deprivation. Yes, it is their choice, but irregardless of that fact the amount of time they have put in is astronomical With that said, imprinting should be tribe imprint - not solo imprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchal69 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 my tribe of 7 just hatched 5 Wyverns and 3 Argys at once and we just took shifts imprinting and gathering milk. 100% imprint on them all. Granted, we did give each other account info otherwise it is not healthy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijahjudah1911 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 overall the imprints are quite long but well worth it. It really is not to necessary due to the many ways you could get your tame killed and the imprints don't make super dinos so it really is balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myksta0121 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Imprinting is so worth it. A high lvl giga with an all ready high base stats before imprinting is turned into an absolute god with 100% imprinting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddansen Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I have never raised a baby.... Aside from my actual kids ... But none in-game therefore I am healthy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Raising wyvern also means me forcing myself awake every 2-3 hours to feed it milk, right? since my tribemembers cannot help me with this as they're offline and busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Crows said: Raising wyvern also means me forcing myself awake every 2-3 hours to feed it milk, right? since my tribemembers cannot help me with this as they're offline and busy. Well, you don't actually have to feed a wyvern every 2-3 hours as long as you only raise high level ones. The first one I raised was a level 190 poison (max level). I had hatched it accidentally when trying to just incubate it a bit. I thought I'd just let it die because I had to go to work, but when I got home, it was still alive 10 hours later, so I fed it enough milk to fully feed it and raised it the rest of the way. Once the wyvern runs out of food, then the health slowly goes down. It only dies when the health reaches zero. Now if you want to imprint the wyvern 100%, that is another thing, then you need to be there for it every 3 - 4 hours. You walk it, cuddle, or feed it a wyvern milk from the 0 slot (randomly picked for you) to imprint it. The hard part about raising the wyvern is getting the milk. On scorched earth, it can't be put in a refrigerator and only lasts about 2 1/2 hours in a preserving bin with preserving salts and spark powder. So you have to get a new female to milk each time, although you can milk it again in one hour, but must remain logged in to keep it in a cage. Not an easy task on scorched earth where you die from dehydration in about 2 hours. Some people raise them on the Island where the milk lasts longer, but then of course you need to transfer from scorched earth with it which is the only source of the milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijahjudah1911 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Wyverns are too much of a pain to actually imprint on. Besides dont they have a really long maturation time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanyelxp5 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, Elijahjudah1911 said: Wyverns are too much of a pain to actually imprint on. Besides dont they have a really long maturation time? About the same as a Rex, bronto, or Compy. Only about a minute off from being identical in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefiantMonkey31 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I like the fact you can imprint and i like how long it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilNastyGurl Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Elijahjudah1911 said: Wyverns are too much of a pain to actually imprint on. Besides dont they have a really long maturation time? They imprint with only 3 things, cuddling, walks, and milk. Vs the large expensive variety that regular dinos have. It's easier to hit 100% on a Wyvern than a Rex, despite the latter being a "kill animal, dump meat on it" kind of raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 10 hours ago, LilNastyGurl said: They imprint with only 3 things, cuddling, walks, and milk. Vs the large expensive variety that regular dinos have. It's easier to hit 100% on a Wyvern than a Rex, despite the latter being a "kill animal, dump meat on it" kind of raise. That's true, it's just that we're based on the Island and so we're having to go through hell to get milk. Lost 10+ pteras mainly to hostile player on a large variety of different SE servers and we're only there to get milk, nothing more. Hate raising wyverns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogger Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On March 12, 2017 at 8:40 PM, PootsumJenkins said: For a Millennia humans slept in 2-4 hour shifts. This whole 8 hour sleep cycle we put ourselves through is kinda new. Anyways seems like we always find ways to criticize Ark for it's many difficulties. If it was easy it wouldn't be fun. Buck up and set an alarm lol So you're implying that the imprinting process is fun?Okayyy then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRoss Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On 14-3-2017 at 7:41 PM, Spedizzo said: This is why I am so so against official server wipes. We have guys in our tribe who have been staying up for weeks because they are try-hards and 100% imprint on everything, literally sleeping in cycles of 3 hours for the last x amounts of months to the point of irritability and deprivation. Yes, it is their choice, but irregardless of that fact the amount of time they have put in is astronomical With that said, imprinting should be tribe imprint - not solo imprint. they realise this is EA right, nothing is guaranteed to stay. On 14-3-2017 at 11:17 PM, Crows said: Raising wyvern also means me forcing myself awake every 2-3 hours to feed it milk, right? since my tribemembers cannot help me with this as they're offline and busy. it also means having to actively do something when waking up so by the time you got the Milk and fed it to the baby, youre probably gonna be behind the point of going back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PootsumJenkins Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Bogger said: So you're implying that the imprinting process is fun?Okayyy then... Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamlandCh4 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Tried raising a giga recently. Started having anxiety attacks before i could get through the baby stage. Had to let it die. Didn't care about imprinting at all. No tribemates were available to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanyelxp5 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I don't think imprinting itself is fun, but the results are. I also enjoy imagining a cuddly T-rex, or bronto... The best though, was when I had triplet direwolves, and they all wanted to cuddle. That was a good image in my head, made that much funnier by the fact that it was their last imprint, so all of them were larger than me by far. Massive puppy pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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