StinkyFingerton Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Is there a reporting system for griefing via landclaim? Whom do i contact about oil nodes that have foundations and pillars spammed over them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Unless the tribe has claimed every single well on a pve official server, you most likely have no grounds to complain. And the tool is right on this site under support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaZ1 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Building on oil veins is against cod and will get removed if reported - i built a box over 1 node on rag and it was remove by a moderator as it is against their cod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, StinkyFingerton said: Is there a reporting system for griefing via landclaim? Whom do i contact about oil nodes that have foundations and pillars spammed over them? From the ARK Code of Conduct: "Blocking access to important resources (ie. charge nodes, gas nodes, Extinction City Terminals, etc)" Under the PvE-specific griefing section. I think it would depend on how it is actually blocked. If there are just foundations fully over the top of the node and an oil pump cant be placed at all, take screenshots and report it, including that line from the CoC. Hell, do it anyway, you don't have anything to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyFingerton Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 Tyvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted June 29, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, TheDonn said: From the ARK Code of Conduct: "Blocking access to important resources (ie. charge nodes, gas nodes, Extinction City Terminals, etc)" Under the PvE-specific griefing section. I think it would depend on how it is actually blocked. If there are just foundations fully over the top of the node and an oil pump cant be placed at all, take screenshots and report it, including that line from the CoC. Hell, do it anyway, you don't have anything to lose. Unless this was recently changed (which I doubt), blocking or boxing oil veins isn't against the rules because unlike the ones mentioned in the CoC, you can farm oil anywhere on the map by mining nodes (in the sea, etc.), or from some dinos (Basilos, Beetles, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: Unless this was recently changed (which I doubt), blocking or boxing oil veins isn't against the rules because unlike the ones mentioned in the CoC, you can farm oil anywhere on the map by mining nodes (in the sea, etc.), or from some dinos (Basilos, Beetles, etc.). You can also use alternative sources for all COC-listed items as well. "Can include but is not limited to" is in the CoC, which is kinda like saying, "let the GM decide if you are unsure but you THINK there might be a violation." Reporting is the correct thing to do in this case, I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted June 30, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2020 2 hours ago, TheDonn said: You can also use alternative sources for all COC-listed items as well. "Can include but is not limited to" is in the CoC, which is kinda like saying, "let the GM decide if you are unsure but you THINK there might be a violation." Reporting is the correct thing to do in this case, I feel. Just look around the forums. There are multiple threads stating boxing oil veins is allowed and not enforced on official PvE. For example: On 2/1/2020 at 5:00 PM, AleXtreme1 said: After submitting a ticket to the wildcard support team i get the following message "Blocking oil veins is allowed as long as your tribe owns the pump and the buildings enclosing it." I submitted a ticket 2 days later for a blocked gas vein and they solved it. I am a little confused. So what are the important resources that shouldn't be blocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: Just look around the forums. There are multiple threads stating boxing oil veins is allowed and not enforced on official PvE. For example: Ok, but it means nothing on a case-by-case basis. The dude should submit a ticket! If the GM messages back that blocking it is OK, then so be it! I personally have reported and had huts expunged. A few reports of nothing being done doesn't mean that nothing is ever done about node-blocking, especially if people can provide recent examples of when nodes were forcibly unblocked, I dunno. It is possible that the GM will send him the same response. It is also possible that the GM will delete the structures. It's not like its a waste of time for a player, who feels the blocking is unnecessary, or a waste of time for the GM, whose duties include judgment calls on such issues. @StinkyFingerton, I'd report it. Invincible might be right, you might get told its not a violation, you might not. Depends on the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyFingerton Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 11 hours ago, TheDonn said: Ok, but it means nothing on a case-by-case basis. The dude should submit a ticket! If the GM messages back that blocking it is OK, then so be it! I personally have reported and had huts expunged. A few reports of nothing being done doesn't mean that nothing is ever done about node-blocking, especially if people can provide recent examples of when nodes were forcibly unblocked, I dunno. It is possible that the GM will send him the same response. It is also possible that the GM will delete the structures. It's not like its a waste of time for a player, who feels the blocking is unnecessary, or a waste of time for the GM, whose duties include judgment calls on such issues. @StinkyFingerton, I'd report it. Invincible might be right, you might get told its not a violation, you might not. Depends on the GM. It is not boxed over, just a single foundation with a stacked pillar. I think it is being done with the sole purpose of preventing others from harvesting those nodes, out of some form of spite. Then there are again, foundation and pillar stacks all over that region of the map. All from the same tribe. Its like they dont want anyone else on a server they never play on....i dont get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 2 hours ago, StinkyFingerton said: It is not boxed over, just a single foundation with a stacked pillar. I think it is being done with the sole purpose of preventing others from harvesting those nodes, out of some form of spite. Then there are again, foundation and pillar stacks all over that region of the map. All from the same tribe. Its like they dont want anyone else on a server they never play on....i dont get it... See, that is kinda what I thought you meant but wasn't sure. That sucks, toss a report out with screenshots from your server with evidence and location coordinates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyFingerton Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Will do, ty all for your time and replies! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedoubleu Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 23 hours ago, invincibleqc said: blocking or boxing oil veins isn't against the rules because unlike the ones mentioned in the CoC, you can farm oil anywhere By that logic explorer notes should be enforced, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted June 30, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, deedoubleu said: By that logic explorer notes should be enforced, no? Actually, explorer notes are unlocked in your local profile meaning you can unlock them anywhere (any other server, single-player, etc.) so I wouldn't qualify them as indispensable for progressing on a map. But hey, I just forward information; I don't make the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedoubleu Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, invincibleqc said: Actually, explorer notes are unlocked in your local profile meaning you can unlock them anywhere (any other server, single-player, etc.) so I wouldn't qualify them as indispensable for progressing on a map. But hey, I just forward information; I don't make the rules. I don't blame you for it. It's just kinda inconsistent and that bothers me - you can get to charge nodes and gas nodes on different server too, yet those treated as violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleXtreme1 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 You can't block the resources that cannot be farmed anywhere else on the map. For example you can farm oil from oil rocks, so that's why oil pumps can be enclosed/blocked. On the other side, gas balls can only be farmed at gas veins (except on extinction and genesis) so you can't block those ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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