Cucharon Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If you want to build something with tek tier, you need element and engrams. In order to obtain both of them you need to kill a boss. Wait, a boss? Yeah, and even having the engram, if you want to get element, you need to defeat the boss. WAIT, but, are you saying that a small tribe has to defeat, no one but several bosses? Yeah, and it is even funier, because looks like the element can't be fransfered, so a small tribe, living in scorched earth has to defead THE MANTICORE. Wait wait... it is impossible, how is goign WildCard to produce this. This means an indirect banning of small tribes, because they will be destroyed by the big tribes that can afford defeat bosses. Yeah, and this is the true. Wild card is saying bye bye to small tribes, and doing this is destroying Ark. This is the end of ARK, this time, even I am saying this is the ending. And everyone know that I defended WC a lot of times. But I can't defend if WC does something against small tribes, not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 You don't need a huge tribe to defeat bosses. 2-3 people should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucharon Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, rororoxor said: You don't need a huge tribe to defeat bosses. 2-3 people should do the trick. Good joke. How many manticores has you killed today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahkram Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, rororoxor said: You don't need a huge tribe to defeat bosses. 2-3 people should do the trick. Truth. My tribe has 3 members. We have a lot of tactics to defeat Manticores. This means to lose several good dinos by doing so. But it is possible. It´s harder. Verything in life is harder in small groups. Big groups have a lot more chances to suceed. But that doesn´t mean small groups can´t be geniuses too. But it will be harder. And instead of complaining in the forum, @Cucharon should watch some videos, some of them made byt the Devs themselves before spit out nonsense like this. You can make several complains about big tribes. They can CLOSE Obelisks, they can raid you easily if you are not strong enough, they can farm, build and tame faster, yeah, they got pretty good advantages, normal advantages of beeing numbered by several people. But that doesn´t mean you can´t do what they do. You CAN, but it will take you much more time to be able to do so. Watch some videos, open a home server to test tactics with your friends, PLAY, don´t be an ass. Go to study the game. Or go to play another game. Ark is hard. And we like it hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtruel Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I love ark because its a challenge! Its common sense for bigger groups to have it easier if everyone contributes! Maybe you should recruit players or like what they said find a way its not impossible. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucharon Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ahkram said: Truth. My tribe has 3 members. We have a lot of tactics to defeat Manticores. This means to lose several good dinos by doing so. But it is possible. It´s harder. Verything in life is harder in small groups. Big groups have a lot more chances to suceed. But that doesn´t mean small groups can´t be geniuses too. But it will be harder. And instead of complaining in the forum, @Cucharon should watch some videos, some of them made byt the Devs themselves before spit out nonsense like this. You can make several complains about big tribes. They can CLOSE Obelisks, they can raid you easily if you are not strong enough, they can farm, build and tame faster, yeah, they got pretty good advantages, normal advantages of beeing numbered by several people. But that doesn´t mean you can´t do what they do. You CAN, but it will take you much more time to be able to do so. Watch some videos, open a home server to test tactics with your friends, PLAY, don´t be an ass. Go to study the game. Or go to play another game. Ark is hard. And we like it hard. I would love to see a video of a small tribe defeating Manticore in an official server. Seriously, no sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cucharon said: I would love to see a video of a small tribe defeating Manticore in an official server. Seriously, no sarcasm. Here 2 people tribe defeated Manticore, I am working on Solo, Your screaming cause you cant handle new contents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Cucharon said: Good joke. How many manticores has you killed today? sigh....its not about the people, its about the strategy. People have done it with 1-2 people btw, wyverns are also allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustrider Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, Cucharon said: This is the end of ARK, this time, even I am saying this is the ending. And everyone know that I defended WC a lot of times. But I can't defend if WC does something against small tribes, not this time. Seriously? Large tribes have always had more power than small tribes. How does this change anything? What game have you ever played where a small group of people has the same advantages as a large group? Also they said that the bosses will have 3 levels of difficulty and as pointed out in previous posts the bosses can be defeated with a small group. Why are you complaining about something that is just being released. Why not wait and see before adding another doom and gloom thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Git gud. Seriously. If I can defeat the Broodmother solo, you can beat the manticore with a small tribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamac0wm00 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Honestly it just makes sense it's harder to do it with a small tribe. Just like everything else in the game, more people = quicker progress. I bet if you name one thing in this game I can counter with a way that more people makes it more efficient. I get what your saying but it's almost common sense. It takes much more work for smaller tribes to be as efficient larger tribes but it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beledorus Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Probably occurred to you that it is a multiplayer game. Complaining that you can not do anything by yourself, or in a two-person group is ridiculous. If you want to do everything yourself or ina casual way, maybe you should play in solo mode and avoid official servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideswipe Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 hours ago, rororoxor said: You don't need a huge tribe to defeat bosses. 2-3 people should do the trick. .....we went into the manticore with 7 people from different tribes. Put up a hell of a fight. And still lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarbinger1911 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Jostabeere said: Git gud. Seriously. If I can defeat the Broodmother solo, you can beat the manticore with a small tribe. primitive rocket launchers+rockets+100% imprinted decent turtle+decent saddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam Son Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 manticore. easiest. boss. ever. you can even do it solo, since I am a little kid. I need adult supervision. you just need like 9 mid tier wyverns, stand back and watch the fireworks. pls devs. no nerf ok? I apologise for my poopty video in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffyPony Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yeah, I haven't done it personally but I know you can beat the bosses with less than 3 people. I've only ever had four to five (including myself), and as long as you take the time to prepare, it's really not a big thing. Not sure about a solo kill, but you should definitely be able to take down at least the Broodmother with good Rexes and gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Sideswipe said: .....we went into the manticore with 7 people from different tribes. Put up a hell of a fight. And still lost. lol which dinos did u use? Or did u just run out of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayn Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 You can bring in 8 survivors and 10 dinos. Anyone in the bubble can get teleported. Alliances can go in and alliance dinos don't damage other alliance dinos. All people in the arena after the win get the rewards. There's a lot of other things to complain about when it comes to small tribes but this is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideswipe Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, rororoxor said: lol which dinos did u use? Or did u just run out of time? We used all lightning wyverns. A few of us died to the torp and fall. Most of it was running out of time. The wyerns all had 300+ melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobboKirk Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Brayn said: You can bring in 8 survivors and 10 dinos. Anyone in the bubble can get teleported. Alliances can go in and alliance dinos don't damage other alliance dinos. All people in the arena after the win get the rewards. There's a lot of other things to complain about when it comes to small tribes but this is not one of them. 10 total or 10 combined? I am guessing combined, but just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Sideswipe said: We used all lightning wyverns. A few of us died to the torp and fall. Most of it was running out of time. The wyerns all had 300+ melee. Get at least a dozen dragons then ur good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastNerb Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Really, how does tek tier really make big tribes any stronger? It just makes the uncraftable stuff craftable and gives some cool new armor. If you don't like ark pvp then go play PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, TheLastNerb said: Really, how does tek tier really make big tribes any stronger? It just makes the uncraftable stuff craftable and gives some cool new armor. If you don't like ark pvp then go play PvE. It's the utterly illogical and subjective Alpha Tribe hate speech this guy is pushing for weeks. He needs a scapegoat for playstyles that do not please him. People told him multiple times that this games is about adapting one way or the other. If he can't fight Alphas, he should play PvE. He does not care. He insists on the idea that solo or small tribes should be able to compete with Alphas by handicapping Alphas to the ground. Which never gonna happen. Strong tribes will be strong with ot without TEK tier. It's just a reason to have a little bit of credibility while hating. I don't see the Tek armor as a weapon. More like an utility. You can get faster around, negate fall gamage and defend yourself against smaller dinos without firearms. The Rex saddle might be strong against low-tier bases, but endgame players will probably deal with it pretty easily. And low-tiers would get raided by a high Rex anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reach1989 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Why not join a new server with another tribe on your home server, tribe up, and work together to prepare for and eventually fight bosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastNerb Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: It's the utterly illogical and subjective Alpha Tribe hate speech this guy is pushing for weeks. He needs a scapegoat for playstyles that do not please him. People told him multiple times that this games is about adapting one way or the other. If he can't fight Alphas, he should play PvE. He does not care. He insists on the idea that solo or small tribes should be able to compete with Alphas by handicapping Alphas to the ground. Which never gonna happen. Strong tribes will be strong with ot without TEK tier. It's just a reason to have a little bit of credibility while hating. I don't see the Tek armor as a weapon. More like an utility. You can get faster around, negate fall gamage and defend yourself against smaller dinos without firearms. The Rex saddle might be strong against low-tier bases, but endgame players will probably deal with it pretty easily. And low-tiers would get raided by a high Rex anyway. I too am growing sick of this anti alpha tribe speech day in and day out. They have larger numbers, better tactic, more time, they are going to beat you. I don't know why people have it in their head they should be able to compete with alpha tribes when their investment and manpower is usually very low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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