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    Welcome to another edition of the Community Crunch!

    This week, initially on PC, we rolled out a refactored version of the dedicated storage structure. Our impetus for doing so was optimization and performance improvements for dedicated servers. 

    Previously, Dedicated Storages used to hold up to 1800 stacks of a single item. On a typical popular server, there are usually thousands of dedicated storage boxes across an entire save, many of which are filled with stacks. On some of our most populated Official Servers, we see save files with over 65,000 dedicated storages -- many of them full (these were PVE servers). As you can imagine, this is a lot of items, like... a lot, a lot. How does this impact our servers? In our worst case scenario, taking a server with 65,000 dedicated storages, let’s assume 70% of these are full; that means we’re talking 81,900,000 stacks, just from dedicated storage boxes alone. These all contribute to how well the server runs in terms of framerate, as well as the memory cost. Each ‘stack’ costs a little bit of both.

    So a rework was necessary, and the results have proven to be great! This isn't a magic bullet and you won't suddenly see servers drop half their memory cost or double in performance, but we are seeing significant gains across our network on all maps. Some savings are as high as 10GB on memory usage, which is pretty phenomenal! Additionally, this change slows down the growth of memory usage on servers, as previously it would exponentially increase with additional dedicated storage boxes.
                
    So here's how the rework 'works' under the hood:

    • The idea of having 'multiple' stacks is no longer the case when using Dedicated Storages. When viewing your UI, you won't see the items on the right-hand side anymore, and it won't display the item slot count when looking at the structure.
    • Instead, the dedicated storage box now contains a single item, and when you deposit items into it, we adjust the quantity of the said item. So instead of having 1800 stacks, you have one giant stack, if you will. Don't panic if you don't see items on the right-hand side, it is intentional! The items are still inside of the dedicated storage, it just works differently
    • The good news is that you'll still be able to withdraw one regular-sized stack at a time, should you need to as the game can calculate what that number would be.
    • As we've removed the 'items' from the storage, you can no longer interface with the remote inventory on the right-hand side. This means you can't split stacks inside of it, you can't drop items from it, etc. 
    • The team is working to mitigate some of the changes, and one thing we've done and implemented is changed the  'Transfer All' function on Dedicated Storages to ignore your weight. Previously players could 'popcorn' items from Dedicated Storages (which is spamming the 'O' key, to drop them quickly) and then pick them up with a whip, but unfortunately that no longer works - which is why we've made this QOL change.
    • We are currently working on some additional QOL changes, which will enable players to pull out 1,5, or 10 items at a time if an entire stack isn't needed (You can press/click these buttons multiple times to get your desired quantity).

    We're still monitoring community feedback with the change as we knew it would be an impactful and necessary change to increase performance for dedicated servers. We also want to make sure that the structure still feels pretty good to use as we know how important it is to base/item management. We'll do our best to take in the community feedback and see whether we can act upon it!

    We’re also working on getting all of these changes moved over to console as soon as possible.  This includes the quantity-display in different locations and fixing/improving the PlayStation version of the Dedicated Storage box so that you’ll be able to see the quantity of the items on the box itself similarly to the other platforms.
     


     

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    An ARK Evolution Event is active until Monday the 20th with the following EVO perks on all Official Servers! 

    • 3X Taming
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    When will you fix Bloodstalker's invisible web (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLL_0txSkUQ)?

    I reported the bug over a year ago (many people have the same problem). And you didn't do anything about it!

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    9 hours ago, Entenkiller said:

    And again there’s enough of complaining!

    3x XP and 3x farms! I think it's great because I can concentrate on ONE thing and don't have to work with the baby as well.
    Thanks, WC!

    Need it to be 3x imprint aswell

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    good change, we will see how it works with breeding x3 and harvest x3 on a weekend

    i give this a try,

    lets see if the servers restart every save again like 1 week ago

     

    the only thing that sux is if you wanna craft stuff in iventory and putting stuff in the repli for crafting

    but well, maybe you can pull recources out of dedis soon to craft a woodwall instant without having to manage recources in inventory or repli

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    On the whole dedicated storage thing, I would really like to see them change it so that they can be placed on platform saddles, and be carried by exo-Meks

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    Would be great if the render of stone and green house was fixed when flying over it tries to render all in the same time causing lag crashes and disconnects 

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    First of all, the dedi storage changes are sucking hell... Why? Bc instead of making them unlimited storages (needing only one of them for collect everything without making a lot of them bc they are limited). For Example: If i have 3 dedicated storage full with hide (it will be like 1800 stacks each) it would be better if i have an unlimited dedicated storage which means 1 f dedidcated storage for all the damn hide that i wanna collect. So, according to this new patch, WildCard isnt thinking in making stuff easy, just doesnt wanna make them UNLIMITED so there would be ONLY ONE DEDICATED STORAGE FOR EACH STUFF that you wanna collect. UNLIMITED DEDICATED STORAGE is the most usefull and will reduce the amount of dedidcated storages in the whole damn SERVERS...

     

    Second, of course it will be only in PVE Servers, because in PVP everyone will be wiped just by people that are bored. ALso PVP Alpha tribes are the only ones that can have such a lot of dedicated storages... also the others Servers as ARKpocalypse they get wiped every damn month... THe only Server Peacefully are the PVE that allows you to collect insted of wipe. SO, im not surprised that PVE have the more Dedicated Storages in the whole damn game.

     

    Third, I think thta WildCard will not longer give us the Breeding events evey damn weekend like the past others years, because they wanna reduce the dino and market population. Also their excuses are that we have already 2x in everything in our new 1x, but only i got is 1x that never changes... im not stupid, i in this game more than 3 or 4 years (I lost the count) and i know when there is a change and when is not. And definetly the breeding stuff changed a little but every raising dino cost you a lot of time in real life, and no all people can afford that time, so they constantly have delayed dinos to raise till next coloured new event. And let me say this, you will have to wait till EXtra Life event to pop up all your old lines and dinos to raise and crash the whole damn server as i constantly feel my mine servers... Instead of giving us more weekend breeding events, they just give us only the farming events that doesnt help much if we dont have anything to raise, and remember weekend events just goes from Friday (barely) to monday (barely), so let me tell you what kind of dinos you can rise in 2x weekend evetns: i think you can raise ankylosaurus, argentavis, dodos, featherlights... all the tiny ones and not ever try to raise a giga or a rex.

     

    Fourth, in every Community Crunch i get a little more dissapointed of this team and this game. Instead of giving more love to the old Ark, they focus only in Ark 2... Consgrats, we gonna be left aside as Atlas... Oh! I forgot to ask... when you guys gonna give us the FJORDUR map that you said it gonna come to us??

     
     

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    16 hours ago, Entenkiller said:

    And again there’s enough of complaining!

    3x XP and 3x farms! I think it's great because I can concentrate on ONE thing and don't have to work with the baby as well.
    Thanks, WC!

    my complaint  is  not the fact there  is not  3x breeding  its that fact that  i can  play at  all.  my sever  has  been down since 1150 pm est friday night. i would  love to  go and get  my dedi boxes filled up again.  but  i cant even play.  what a waste of a 3x event

     

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    It completely broke the Dedicated Tek Storage on the Unofficial Server I play. Since our pile size is bigger (like 900 metal instead of 300) it used to display the incorrect number of piles. Now of course there is no more piles, but it doesn't accept more of the total number than the size on offical servers... so it means that even thought much of my dedicated didn't have 1800 piles yet, I can add to it anymore, and if take out, it won't accept back in, since it is over the puny limit they have on official servers... if I wanted to play the grind that is an official server I would have joined one.

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    We are currently working on some additional QOL changes, which will enable players to pull out 1,5, or 10 items at a time if an entire stack isn't needed (You can press/click these buttons multiple times to get your desired quantity).

    Switch Items to stacks and this disaster of a change will be somewhat bareable.
    Better idea - roll back this bullpoop. Noone asked fot this anyway.

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    Thank you for warning us in advance about upcomming changes.
    (Sorry PC players)

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    13 hours ago, Dvulture said:

    It completely broke the Dedicated Tek Storage on the Unofficial Server I play. Since our pile size is bigger (like 900 metal instead of 300) it used to display the incorrect number of piles. Now of course there is no more piles, but it doesn't accept more of the total number than the size on offical servers... so it means that even thought much of my dedicated didn't have 1800 piles yet, I can add to it anymore, and if take out, it won't accept back in, since it is over the puny limit they have on official servers... if I wanted to play the grind that is an official server I would have joined one.

    Same. It's a nerf so big that I filled a bug report.

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    On 9/17/2021 at 7:18 PM, PrinnyAntta said:

    I really wish they had breeding. I couldn't get on my server at all and missed when they had breeding.

    Catch 22...

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    23 hours ago, Dvulture said:

    It completely broke the Dedicated Tek Storage on the Unofficial Server I play. Since our pile size is bigger (like 900 metal instead of 300) it used to display the incorrect number of piles. Now of course there is no more piles, but it doesn't accept more of the total number than the size on offical servers... so it means that even thought much of my dedicated didn't have 1800 piles yet, I can add to it anymore, and if take out, it won't accept back in, since it is over the puny limit they have on official servers... if I wanted to play the grind that is an official server I would have joined one.

    FilL out a bug report, it's obviously not intentional... but that is a big problem. 

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    Würde sehr gerne wissen warum ark bei mir nur auf Gen2 abstürtzt auf alle anderen maps gar nicht (Spiele auf ps4) und es stürz nur ab wenn es speichert

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    Oh boy, I hope this change to dedi will lessen the minute and a half long save on one of the PvE official servers I play.

    Under that minute and a half, like 1:25 in the terminal timer when everything stops being interactive.

    I havent been on yet to feel the save, but I hope the save time is reduced!

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    Good Job for the Dedicated Storage cleanup and new options

    Suggestion : Add an option to remove X amount (without spamming the mousse to put in my inventory like it is now.)

    But make it so that we still get the Full amount we ask in are inventory, even encumbered.

    Exemple of now:

    1:  I take all the Raw metals on me with the new option,

    2:  I walk to my Forges with my tek legs. and fill the forges with metals

    3: I walk back to my Dedi to put back the rest of Thousands etc+ more Metals with tek legs

     

    If i had the option to remove X amounts to myself with the encumbered effect, i would only need to take the amount i need each time, and not good back to dedi.

    Same thing with every ressource i want Alot fast, i take all transfert to Replicator or else and walk back to Dedi

     

    Thx continue the work.

    But really Fix your servers while your at it. Some servers are down 30hrs. Mine was 16hrs straight this week.

    Put a Human behind the Screen instead of just relying on your auto-restart script

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    On 9/17/2021 at 7:47 PM, Nenofera said:

    😍😍😍😍😍  20 - 30 days 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

    Decay time could be shorter, maximum 30 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    limit pillars on the map.
    auto decay abandoned structures, scattered on the map.
    destruction of loose structures shorter decay time.

    I agree dedibox decay timers should be heavily reduced, that and possibly make them autodecay after several days once their timers run out and no one demos them. In pve pillars definitely can be annoying but i know from experience people will really build in inconvenient places like within render of your base or kill of dino/resource spawns and even in mission paths on Gen2

    . Pillars are definitely a dbl edged sword in pve

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    On 9/18/2021 at 9:56 AM, ImperialX said:

    maybe the worst update for dedis . il just farmed 90Kof metal and after ussing the demo gun on it , it left nothing , not even a bag.......

     

    First off, if you farmed metal why are you using creative mode and why are you destroying dedis if you want access to the materials inside? it's a simple fix on your part to just take the metal out and move it elsewhere before destroying it

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    Are you guys planning to fix the varies bugs on Primitive+?? I can't make steel bc I can't pit it in the forge... 

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    hey Wildcard :D ive been playing on Ark for a loooong time and just got the courage to join the discussions :) I have noticed that on Valguero, my tames will fall through the map and I cant get them back unless I ghost through D: any ideas on fixing this?

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