UDGxKnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, Dustycrow333 said: I like the idea of trapdoor spider but wish the areno got a buff like climbing walls or a built in web grapple Pretty sure all the early creatures are getting a passover. My only problem with the Araneo is that its dossier says it is too small to ride and yet we can. Maybe it needs a size increase or something. It just doesn't feel like a mount ya know? Like it was meant to just be a defensive creature. That is why I want a bigger spider that acts more like a mount. Speaking of mounting, everyone speculating on wether or not the Queen Bee will be ridable. I would assume not, but as we don't have a very good size depiction on this dossier, in the mound the survivor makes them look like they are bigger than Dilos but in the other image they look smaller attacking the Trikes. With no saddle symbol though I would assume not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpureFrost Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/20/2016 at 9:29 PM, PommieGamer said: Does Scorched Earth have Redwood Trees. No. Therefore you have your answer. The Archaeopterayx is supposedly only to hang around redwoods.. Yet there are no redwoods in scorched earth and they live in the desert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustiest-Ninja Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Let the Homestarrunner references and bad puns flow forth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustiest-Ninja Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 "BEES COME DOWN AND LOOK INTO YOUR BONES!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLoeven Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Because someone had to post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UranoMetria Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Can we get giant rideable wasps to go with these? I like wasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apcobe Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Are there going to be giant flowers to pollinate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotiart Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Reshkrom1153 said: You do realise almost every plant requires pollination? 30% of our crops and 90% of the world's flora. We'd lose so much oxygen you'd need to go around wearing an oxygen mask and air tanks. People in China would literally die out because of the already terrible air quality and now with most plants dying out. Also like another person said. Losing lots of plants means lots of herbivorous animals die out which means most carnivorous animals die out. It's quite shocking how our entire earth is held together by these 'flying stingers' (which they rarely do) Most wild herbivores eat Grass, and flora that doesn't require pollination You'd be surprised how many things can survive without bees. I dare say, there's be almost no herbivorous species go extinct. Yes, while some herbivores do eat flowers and such, I've never heard of an animal that lived exclusively on plants that require pollination, and thus, I don't think any herbivore species will go extinct. Sure, we'll lose some flowers, maybe even a species of tree or two, even the majority of some plant populations, but for the most part, we'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torkkar Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/20/2016 at 11:00 PM, DinoDash said: Can you ride the queen? ah Probably NO because ever since social insects evolved the queens have given up mobility. in Termites the queens actively try to move but are so heavy they end up grinding their legs down to nubs that can't even scrap the ground. in Ants the queen can only move with the assistance of "Nurse" workers who carry her and go where her legs go, Now in Bees the Queens maintain the ability to crawl and climb on vertical combs BUT she is actually too Heavy to fly when prepping to migrate a queen will either lay an egg for a new virgin queen then stop producing pheromones when the new queen is born and is then killed by her own hive OR the queen will mass lay and shed the undeveloped eggs so she can fly and lead her swarm to a new hive where she will mate again and become a Laying Queen again. The first method is used by honey bee's in North America & Europe while the second is used by Killer Bees & Africanized Honey Bee's (yes Killer bees and Africanized Honey Bees ARE different breeds) now all bee lessons from Animal Planet & Discovery Channel aside I hope these bees are: 1. Self Feeding 2. Can be told to build their nests at specific locations. seriously Biological Natural defense system with no ammo or fuel costs = Awesome (only if number 1 is true) 3. Queens are not a passive tame. Seriously too many bugs and bug eaters are passive tames. 4. Ignore Bug Repellent IF you damage their hive. 5. Available on Scorched Earth map. Because of the Australian Rock Bee the Real Life Giant Bee (seriously these things can get Half as big as Rhino Beetles) I know not all 5 will be met but that would make the bees so much better IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanicEmber Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 7 hours ago, UDGxKnight said: Pretty sure all the early creatures are getting a passover. My only problem with the Araneo is that its dossier says it is too small to ride and yet we can. Maybe it needs a size increase or something. It just doesn't feel like a mount ya know? Like it was meant to just be a defensive creature. That is why I want a bigger spider that acts more like a mount. Speaking of mounting, everyone speculating on wether or not the Queen Bee will be ridable. I would assume not, but as we don't have a very good size depiction on this dossier, in the mound the survivor makes them look like they are bigger than Dilos but in the other image they look smaller attacking the Trikes. With no saddle symbol though I would assume not. I am 100% on board with a total Araneo overhaul. The saddle concept feels rather slapped on, which it was, if we're honest. On another note I am also 100% on board with overhauling Argentavis to be a giant Vulture and introducing a new Prehistoric Raptor to take it's place... But that's probably less likely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torkkar Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Rotiart said: Most wild herbivores eat Grass, and flora that doesn't require pollination You'd be surprised how many things can survive without bees. I dare say, there's be almost no herbivorous species go extinct. Yes, while some herbivores do eat flowers and such, I've never heard of an animal that lived exclusively on plants that require pollination, and thus, I don't think any herbivore species will go extinct. Sure, we'll lose some flowers, maybe even a species of tree or two, even the majority of some plant populations, but for the most part, we'd be fine. ah Let me stop you at most herbivores eat grass and go BACK to first Grade Agriculture lessons on Nutrition this also applies to ANIMALS and no animal can survive on one food source alone. Take for example a Cow I grew up near a dairy farm and when I was a Teen I worked on that farm and yes the cows mainly ate grass & Hay with Straw for fiber BUT the majority of their diet was Soy Beans for Protein, Iron, Potassium, & Calcium, followed by Corn for Starch, and lastly apples for Vitamins. so without Bee's we lose Soy Beans & Apples, which means we lose the cow because no grass based plant can produce Protein that's usable by animals which makes the cow grow slowly, we lose the apples which means the cows have weak immune systems and die of infections that they can easily fight off today. and with out the Cow we die cause we eat more cows per year than any other animal. now if you say pigs & Chickens can replaces cows your wrong because Soy Beans & Corn are the major components of livestock feed. so no bee's no food for humans. sorry for the double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotiart Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Torkkar said: ah Let me stop you at most herbivores eat grass and go BACK to first Grade Agriculture lessons on Nutrition this also applies to ANIMALS and no animal can survive on one food source alone. Take for example a Cow I grew up near a dairy farm and when I was a Teen I worked on that farm and yes the cows mainly ate grass & Hay with Straw for fiber BUT the majority of their diet was Soy Beans for Protein, Iron, Potassium, & Calcium, followed by Corn for Starch, and lastly apples for Vitamins. so without Bee's we lose Soy Beans & Apples, which means we lose the cow because no grass based plant can produce Protein that's usable by animals which makes the cow grow slowly, we lose the apples which means the cows have weak immune systems and die of infections that they can easily fight off today. and with out the Cow we die cause we eat more cows per year than any other animal. now if you say pigs & Chickens can replaces cows your wrong because Soy Beans & Corn are the major components of livestock feed. so no bee's no food for humans. sorry for the double post. Well, yeah, but I mean, Apples and Soy beans aren't the only two sources for Protien, Iron, Potassium, Calcium, and starch Edited September 22, 2016 by Rotiart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UDGxKnight Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, CyanicEmber said: I am 100% on board with a total Araneo overhaul. The saddle concept feels rather slapped on, which it was, if we're honest. On another note I am also 100% on board with overhauling Argentavis to be a giant Vulture and introducing a new Prehistoric Raptor to take it's place... But that's probably less likely... I really don't think they will touch the Argent very much. I think it came out exactly the way it was meant to be. Not all vultures have to have bald heads and such. All it needs is a special ability and that is it. I personally love the look of the Argent, in fact every image I see of it resembles what it looks like in game. Now other than looks I think it should act more like the vultures on SE, but then it wouldn't be unique. I think it should just stay the way it is and get a special perk, which is pretty much what all the originals are getting if I understood correctly. Edited September 23, 2016 by UDGxKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torkkar Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Rotiart said: Well, yeah, but I mean, Apples and Soy beans aren't the only two sources for Protien, Iron, Potassium, Calcium, and starch true but ONLY flowering plants produce these nutrients and again only flowers mainly pollinated by bees produce these as well because bee's prefer vegetables and flowing tree & Grasses while the other key pollinator the Butterfly prefers flowers and flowing ivy's to the vegetables that bees like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morhaq Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 4:00 AM, DinoDash said: Can you ride the queen? Dude, stop insulting UK monarchy, u should be hanged for it! You should be atleast a Lord to ask that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted September 23, 2016 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted September 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Morhaq said: Dude, stop insulting UK monarchy, u should be hanged for it! You should be atleast a Lord to ask that question. You'd have to knock the Queen out first though, not sure even Lords would be allowed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansPegasus Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 That's it I'm officially asking for a AvP mod. We all know they brought us to the island for they hunts so come on wildcard gain the rights an let's finally meet our overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinJapman4 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 YEEEEEESSSSSSS! What's the expected release date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotiart Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 9 hours ago, Torkkar said: true but ONLY flowering plants produce these nutrients and again only flowers mainly pollinated by bees produce these as well because bee's prefer vegetables and flowing tree & Grasses while the other key pollinator the Butterfly prefers flowers and flowing ivy's to the vegetables that bees like. Or, just get like, 1,000 workers to go around manually pollinating things all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinJapman4 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 7:30 AM, FrostyNWinters said: Instead of shooting the queen in the face with a Tranq dart they should make some sort of system where you have to "knock it out" with smoke. Smoke or narcotic bombs would be a cool new taming method added for them. Poison Gas grenade, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViciousHera Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm glad you liked my idea of having bees and nests. I don't know if it was already in the plans or not but hopefully my recommendation was what sparked the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If I see one flying through a tree or cliff maybe my basewalls once they are added, I will have a fun mindgrind about this insect. Also (if rideable) I assume this Giant Bee will be used a lot to knock out Quetzalcoatlus by many players. If not rideable you could always use a Pteranodon or Argentavis to fly on and let the Queen follow it... if of course the Quetzalcoatlus won't be killed instead by the Bee's sting. Rideable?: ** Honey gathering?: *** Torpor infliction?: **** (Just a random guess) We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexNovember Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 11:31 AM, MultiTitan said: Well this will cause a delay for the PS4 version of this game since it wont release till the game is at version 1.00. That's Sony's fault. Wildcard tried to get early access on PS4, but Sony won't allow mods or unfinished games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediRaider92 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Since I'm to lazy to read previous statements would this be added to SE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheModernWar18 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Will the bees be on scorched earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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