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1 hour ago, Darkholis said:

Orcs are prolly rockwell minions and we can clearly see Santiago & Genesis simulation in the trailer. I suspect the trailer takes place at the final destination.

I think the minions are 1 of three things, a tribal like being that misevolved, a species on one of the arks and this is earth, or a species on the arrival planet. I do not belive that it is corrupted, as they don’t look much like that 

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Dunno about your thoughts on how well it swims, that's gonna be a 'let's see' for me, but as for water, there's plenty of water we can see at the bottom of the trench, which by my guess, is pretty big

Actually the simulation doesn’t simulate where we are going. That was never it’s purpose. It was to get us ready for the extremes. Every environment and creature was taken to a extreme so we are ready

Interesting idea. The element on this planet could be element in its natural form and coexists with the life on the planet. An amount of element could have then traveled to Earth by methods unkno

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1 minute ago, Dinobros2000 said:

I think the minions are 1 of three things, a tribal like being that misevolved, a species on one of the arks and this is earth, or a species on the arrival planet. I do not belive that it is corrupted, as they don’t look much like that 

Some friends also suggested nameless due to the spikes on their bodies.

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Lot of stuff to go over here...

As someone else noted, we can see two 'small' moon-like objects in the sky and one giant planet object. If I had to guess, I would suggest that we were on a third moon of the big planet.
There's also wreckage from the colony ship, or perhaps just something left behind from it, so I think it's safe to say that this planet/moon is wherever we go to at the end of Genesis 2.

The main character of the teaser was Santiago, and the console he messed with opened up some kind of data purge on Santiago's own data? It's not completely clear what exactly he did, but, as you can tell, everything in there turned off.

Fun note: The rex, ptero, and bronto all made an appearance, so we know they're sticking around, not that anyone expected those not to.

Now, for the orcs, I wanted to check if they had implants, but they all seemed to have their arms covered where an implant would be, except for one where it was too low res to tell, so I'll have to wait until the hi res version comes out to know. If they don't have implants, I think they're probably natives to the planet, but if they do, then I'd say they're definitely Rockwell's minions.
My personal guess right now is that they're natives.
Regardless, they use tools and planned an ambush, so they're obviously intelligent.

 

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10 hours ago, TinyHippo said:

The main character of the teaser was Santiago, and the console he messed with opened up some kind of data purge on Santiago's own data? It's not completely clear what exactly he did, but, as you can tell, everything in there turned off.

My main question is if this is the same Santiago from Extinction or not, because I seem to remember him dying and having a grave on the map. Not saying an Ark couldn't have recreated him or something but ya know

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1 minute ago, UDGxKnight said:

My main question is if this is the same Santiago from Extinction or not, because I seem to remember him dying and having a grave on the map. Not saying an Ark couldn't have recreated him or something but ya know

His death was heavily implied and there was a grave, but it was never confirmed in the notes if he did actually die. There was also no mentions of a body, to my knowledge.

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26 minutes ago, DodoRaptor said:

Could it be a different Santiago clone? As in with the original's memories, but not the memories of the one on Extinction.

i feel like this could be an answer, because one of the notes on extinction, to be specific one from ascended helena, mentions his soul being long gone.

On the other hand the original storywriter only wrote till extinction, so more contradictions happening between "old" and "new" lore wouldn't surprise me

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Things I personally noted from the trailer for ARK 2: Rise of VIN DIESEL:

  • The dinosaur that appears actually looks more like a real dinosaur, thank god!
  • The place where the cave drawing are also seems to show the same glowing rings and federation stasis pods that we saw at the end of GP1, just overgrown and surrounded by rocks. I believe it is the same room that we saw there, but it appears to have wound up on an alien world somehow and has become some sort of holy site for the humans of this world. This also opens up the possibility that ARK 2: Rise of VIN DIESEL takes place hundreds or thousands of years after the end of ARK 1, based on how overgrown everything is.
  • The cave drawing the girl looks at seems to show an obelisk, HLN-A, and, interestingly enough, one of the Genesis Colony Ships rings on the right, just minus the actual colony ship.
  • The Genesis Simulation appears to have remained intact, despite having landed on an alien world. How this would play into the story of ARK 2: Rise of VIN DIESEL remains to be seen.
  • Santiago's name appears to have been changed from Santiago Camacho to Santiago Da Costa, and he is now from the 24th century instead of the mid-22nd century. He now also appears to no longer be a fan of pop idols and now looks like VIN DIESEL for some reason. Everything else about his character and backstory seems to have remained the same. It appears to be implied that he fought his out of the GenSim, or was simply freed from his stasis pod after it landed on the planet, and is now raising a family on this new alien world. Interestingly, he seems to be rejecting his past experiences and maybe just tek altogether, as we see him delete all records of him from the GenSim. He could also be doing this to protect his family, as he knows how dangerous element is and wants to keep them as distanced from it as possible.

Based on all that I've talked about, here's how I think the story of GP2 and ARK 2: Rise of VIN DIESEL will play out: HLN-A and the player realize it's impossible to remove Rockwell from the Colony Ship, so they do the next best thing by taking the green ring that isn't affected by him and separating it from the rest of the ship. They then blow up the rest of the ship, taking Rockwell with it as they make a daring escape to the planet below, joining everyone else as the colony ring lands and releases people onto the planet. Cut to hundreds or thousands of years later, and humanity has once again found itself on the brink of extinction due to a race of orc-like creatures (beings who appear to be infused with element) going to war with them. Most of humanity seems to have forgotten everything related to element or tek, and so has resorted to fighting using the basics of spears and dinosaurs. What remains of the Colony ship, ring, and Genesis Simulation have turned into holy sites for the humans, and in fact the only remaining knowledge of anything related to element, tek, or ARK 1 exist through tall tales - myths, spread by word of mouth, that speak of towering obelisks, seeds within the sky, and small hovering beings of metal that once gave guidance to those learning to survive. And now, the player must assume the role of VIN DIESEL as he must find a way to defeat the orcs once and for all, while also potentially unravelling (or potentially trying to reject or conceal) the truth about these "tall tales".

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"Even with Athena on my side, I prefer to avoid danger, not confront it. My aim's piss poor and I've got fists like marshmallows. If I want a fair go at actually surviving whatever happens when the obelisk activates, I'll need backup" - Helena

"Fortunately, Mei-Yin's got more intestinal fortitude than yours truly" - Also Helena

"I'm no pacifist. Death and violence are a part of life, that's just nature. Yet a gun still makes me a little uncomfortable. The idea of shooting at another human just seems instinctively wrong to me. I couldn't even fire at the New Legion back on the island" - Also Also Helena

Meanwhile, in the animated series:

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1 hour ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

"Even with Athena on my side, I prefer to avoid danger, not confront it. My aim's piss poor and I've got fists like marshmallows. If I want a fair go at actually surviving whatever happens when the obelisk activates, I'll need backup" - Helena

"Fortunately, Mei-Yin's got more intestinal fortitude than yours truly" - Also Helena

"I'm no pacifist. Death and violence are a part of life, that's just nature. Yet a gun still makes me a little uncomfortable. The idea of shooting at another human just seems instinctively wrong to me. I couldn't even fire at the New Legion back on the island" - Also Also Helena

Meanwhile, in the animated series:

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Who says this is an inconsistency? I think she's been leaving out things like this to create a perfect reputation for herself, making it seem like she can do no wrong. For all we know, she was the real villan and framed Rockwell, before finally yeeting him into the overseer chamber. If you hide the bodies well enough, nobody has to know...😈

Or maybe Wildcard just wanted to make the show more exciting.

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Looking at this list of characters, I feel like the animated series is going to be more of a spinoff rather than an a direct adaptation of the explorer notes. Here are some of the differences I found:

  • Instead of being a weakling who also flinched at the mere thought of hurting another person, Helena is now competent enough to kill random people using an ARROW. Like, not even using the bow, just using the arrow.
  • Instead of becoming evil like what we see in the game, Rockwell now appears to just be evil from the beginning, and now also appears to be fascinated with the occult for some reason?
  • Close family members of the survivors also appear.
  • Santiago now also seems to appear on the island along with everyone else, and like I said earlier, appears to have his name, time period, and appearance changed.
  • A ridiculously long list of side characters who, along with the family members of the survivors, are never actually mentioned in the game. 

That being said, let's assume that there are three different ARK universes where the story and/or characters and/or universe itself are slightly different:

  • ARK Universe: The ARK story that we all know and love. Classic main characters whose motivations are perfectly explained and their respective character development throughout the story feels built-up and organic. There's also a few side characters who actually feel just as built-up as the main cast. The reason I bring all that up is in case the animated series...doesn't form it's story like that. I dunno, I just feel like it would be difficult for them to make every character feel like an actual character if there's so many other characters. Then again...we may just have to wait and see.
  • ARK Mobile Universe: The nature of element and the obelisks is slightly different, as element now has several more forms and uses, while the obelisks now give people free god weapons when they get artifacts. There's also cloning chambers, a distant relative of Rockwell's, and probably a bunch of other things I'm missing. 
  • ARK Animated Universe: Features a whole host of extra side characters, some of whom are close relatives of the survivors. Some of the survivors also feel a bit different from their main game counterparts in terms of personality. Paras are also now a lot more loyal than they are in game, apparently.
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5 hours ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

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Looking at this list of characters, I feel like the animated series is going to be more of a spinoff rather than an a direct adaptation of the explorer notes. Here are some of the differences I found:

  • Instead of being a weakling who also flinched at the mere thought of hurting another person, Helena is now competent enough to kill random people using an ARROW. Like, not even using the bow, just using the arrow.
  • Instead of becoming evil like what we see in the game, Rockwell now appears to just be evil from the beginning, and now also appears to be fascinated with the occult for some reason?
  • Close family members of the survivors also appear.
  • Santiago now also seems to appear on the island along with everyone else, and like I said earlier, appears to have his name, time period, and appearance changed.
  • A ridiculously long list of side characters who, along with the family members of the survivors, are never actually mentioned in the game. 

That being said, let's assume that there are three different ARK universes where the story and/or characters and/or universe itself are slightly different:

  • ARK Universe: The ARK story that we all know and love. Classic main characters whose motivations are perfectly explained and their respective character development throughout the story feels built-up and organic. There's also a few side characters who actually feel just as built-up as the main cast. The reason I bring all that up is in case the animated series...doesn't form it's story like that. I dunno, I just feel like it would be difficult for them to make every character feel like an actual character if there's so many other characters. Then again...we may just have to wait and see.
  • ARK Mobile Universe: The nature of element and the obelisks is slightly different, as element now has several more forms and uses, while the obelisks now give people free god weapons when they get artifacts. There's also cloning chambers, a distant relative of Rockwell's, and probably a bunch of other things I'm missing. 
  • ARK Animated Universe: Features a whole host of extra side characters, some of whom are close relatives of the survivors. Some of the survivors also feel a bit different from their main game counterparts in terms of personality. Paras are also now a lot more loyal than they are in game, apparently.

Personally, I don't want to give up on the potential that the universes are the same. The extra characters besides the "big four" might just have minor, recurring roles, and weren't important enough to to be mentioned by them.

That being said, giving Helena a wife and Mei-Yin a brother does sound odd because neither are ever mentioned. Maybe Mei-Yin wasn't extremely close to her brother, but I don't know who in the world wouldn't even mention a spouse. And then of course there's Helena's fighting competence and Rockwell's being evil from the beginning...yeah you're probably right on that one. As hyped as I am for the show, it seems dumb to make it about the lore and then totally change the story. 

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Interestingly enough, these ARK II: Rise of VIN DIESEL skins look like they're made up of scraps of tek strapped to the end of a stick. This could mean A2:RoVD could feature wreckage of tek structures (like what we saw inside that cave from the trailer) dotted around the map that can be scavenged for scraps of tek (and possibly more?) to help craft weapons/tools. Think of it as a sort of cheap alternative to smelting actual metal ore. The wreckage I'm talking about more than likely comes from the colony ship. 

Also, if you go in-game and looks at the axe skin model you can see a little carving of what looks like an implant under the head of the axe.

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I’ve noticed something VERY IMPORTANT   Look at the 2 main pics (cave wall drawings and the view out into the world with all the pts) then Think. There is a ring cave drawing and a ob drawing so people have seen both  AND THE SECOND MAIN PIC LOOKS LIKE A RING THAT HAS CRASHED!!  I think we will be on both the ship and this new world!!!

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I couldn't find a clear enough picture of this to put here, but if you look at Santiago's Genesis profile in the trailer you can see it mentions his "Haplogroup". From the research I've done, I've found that a haplogroup is basically where your ancestors would have originated from in ancient times. My question is, why would the GenSim be keeping records of that of all things?

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  • Gerard Butler plays General Gaius Marcellus Nerva, a brutal ancient Roman despot.
  • Devery Jacobs plays Alasie, a peppy 17th century Inuit teenager, now finding her place on the ARK.
  • Cissy Jones plays The Gladiatrix, a formidable commander in Nerva's army.
  • Madeleine Madden plays 21st century Australian paleontologist Helena Walker, newly awoken on the ARK.
  • Deborah Mailman plays Deborah Walker, a 21st century Aboriginal Australian activist, and mother to Helena Walker.
  • Zahn McClarnon plays Thunder Comes Charging, a 19th century Lakota warrior who leads a thriving community on the ARK.
  • Malcolm McDowell plays Senator Lucius Cassius Virilis, a manipulative aristocrat during the reign of Caesar Augustus.
  • Juliet Mills plays Chava, a wise healer and village councilmember.
  • Elliot Page plays Victoria Walker, an idealistic humanitarian aid worker, and wife of Helena Walker.
  • Ragga Ragnars plays Queen Sigrid, a bellicose 10th century Viking warlord.
  • David Tennant plays Sir Edmund Rockwell, an egocentric 19th century scientist harboring dark ambitions.
  • Alan Tudyk plays The Captain, a crusty buccaneer who profitably sails the dangerous waters around the ARK.
  • Karl Urban plays Bob, a recent square-jawed ARK arrival.
  • Jeffrey Wright plays Henry Townsend, an 18th century American watchmaker and Patriot spy.
  • Michelle Yeoh plays Meiyin Li, a 3rd century Chinese rebel leader, known on the ARK by her reputation as the formidable “Beast Queen.”
  • Ron Yuan plays Han Li, a 3rd century Chinese rebel leader and brother to Meiyin.
  • With Russell Crowe playing Kor the Prophet, an eccentric ‘dino-whisperer’ hailing from a time before recorded history.
  • And Vin Diesel playing 24th century ‘Mek’-pilot, gearhead, & freedom-fighter Santiago.


 

ok so this proves it’s not the same lore,  which is intresting, it also says something about family genetic extraction or whatever, meaning it’s mulch easier or more successful in certain family’s, also it seams like San Diego will be on the island and/or SE. at least assuming each ark will be at least one season, as they said 2 seasons, right?

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