Jabroni Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Olivar said: The whole point of assaulting a base, no? Defenders focus on Stego's, turrets focus on the rest. So any base that doesnt have people literally sitting in the base and watching it 24 hours 7 days a week can be raided in 5-10 minutes by a single guy with a stego and a stack of C4. Great balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Jabroni said: So any base that doesnt have people literally sitting in the base and watching it 24 hours 7 days a week can be raided in 5-10 minutes by a single guy with a stego and a stack of C4. Great balance. Please come up with a system that allows people to be online whenever they want, engage in the PvP they want without upsetting those getting attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Olivar said: Please come up with a system that allows people to be online whenever they want, engage in the PvP they want without upsetting those getting attacked. How about being able to build up a defense that takes time to go through? You know, kinda like it is right now? And not being able to be raided while going to the toilet for five minutes by pretty much no effort of the attacker side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Jabroni said: How about being able to build up a defense that takes time to go through? You know, kinda like it is right now? And not being able to be raided while going to the toilet for five minutes by pretty much no effort of the attacker side. you mean the one where I drop in a few dino's to soak all bullets and happily walk past when you're out of ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Olivar said: you mean the one where I drop in a few dino's to soak all bullets and happily walk past when you're out of ammo? Yes, thats why they needed to BUFF defense. It would still take you hours and multiple soakers to go trough the defense of a bigger base that people put months of work into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Jabroni said: Yes, thats why they needed to BUFF defense. It would still take you hours and multiple soakers to go trough the defense of a bigger base that people put months of work into. If you increase the output of the turrets, you're going to wind up with getting specific dino's being used only for raiding a base. Simply to counter the increased turret damage, taking away the versatility that the game has the offer. Something we've seen from past changes, not wanted by WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthaNyan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, Olivar said: Defenders focus on Stego's, turrets focus on the rest. Doesnt help with multiple stego drop. All attackers have to do is drop on top of turrets and blow a couple of C4s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Olivar said: taking away the versatility that the game has the offer. Something we've seen from past changes, not wanted by WC. With all respect, I dont even know what the hell you are talking about. If you cant see how "raid any base with 1 stego and a stack of C4" is broken and make people quit playing then I dont feel like its worth to discuss with you any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilidrael Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 And here i thought i had made the right choice going to PvP GG wp rip cya hf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Jabroni said: With all respect, I dont even know what the hell you are talking about. If you cant see how "raid any base with 1 stego and a stack of C4" is broken and make people quit playing then I dont feel like its worth to discuss with you any further. Then don't 2 minutes ago, DarthaNyan said: Doesnt help with multiple stego drop. All attackers have to do is drop on top of turrets and blow a couple of C4s. Doesn't the problem lie more then with the turrets being destroyable that "easy" or C4 being usable from the stego. Don't get me wrong, I think the change on the turrets is drastic, and I'm not even sure that they thought of all possible balance issues. But unless they revert the change it's coming in 2 weeks. Just thinking out loud here : But reduce the functionality of the stego? The stego's prime goal should be turret distraction/soaking so others can get closer? So removing the ability to use weapons/explosives on top of the stego would mean others sill have to come close with stuff while the stego is soaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamage007 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I would much rather deal with lag than be offline wiped over and over as raiding is already way way too easy. This change makes me want to say things that would probably get me banned from these forums.Pvp = ruined Please reconsider. People are already quitting and demanding refunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veve Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Created a petition agains the tirany of WC. we dont want 100 turet limit. https://www.change.org/p/mother-raptoring-ark-devs-no-100-turret-limit?recruiter=835611842&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugodzilla Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Petitions do not help, lol. As if they care. Just stop playing that poop. in case i forgot to mention. Everything WC does is awesome. Ark has no Bugs or gamebreaking exploits, glitches etc. No need for such Threads in the Future anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamage007 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, veve said: Created a petition agains the tirany of WC. we dont want 100 turet limit. https://www.change.org/p/mother-raptoring-ark-devs-no-100-turret-limit?recruiter=835611842&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition Signed. Spread the word people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskur Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 hahaha.... can i give back the season pass in some way?... since we get screwed over like people got screwed over with no man´s sky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilidrael Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I think they should just do another donation event, but this time it goes to buying better servers or upgrading them, this way they wouldnt need to screw the game to save some dollars/have 2 ping less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroxxi Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 In all honesty this will probably be the final nail in the coffin. Ark official pvp will be dead. Why bother to build anything when 1 stego can tank it all. My tribe and myself included most of us are going to wait till Dec 5th if the change isn't reverted we are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraxor Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 DILO with 100 turrets limits our tribe has to relocate 4000 turrets and then all the plants thats just DILO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraD Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, oScottieHo said: Has anyone actually managed to find out what 'units' they are talking about? Is it foundations? Or is it the unit count of a foundation? 34 foundations apart, which actually isn't that bad, you should still have enough coverage especially if each turrets is full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vita Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Its almost as if Wildcard expects each tribe to have members online 24/7 to defend the base. Sure better performance will make it easier to defend, BUT only 100 turrets in a 10k unit distance will greatly promote offline raiding. Also I really dont want to go around picking up 500 turrets that are at max ammo. It took me literally DAYS of playtime to load them up set them down change range etc. I actually just set up over 400 new crop plots last night spent 12 hours irl doing this and that was on 2x. Wildcard forever slapping dedicated players in the face. The game is SO time consuming yet they waste all of our time with nerfs such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshot879 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 People moaning about how mega tribes can wipe them immediately, the limit also applies to them so you can attack them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vita Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Sharpshot879 said: People moaning about how mega tribes can wipe them immediately, the limit also applies to them so you can attack them back Yeah let me bring my tribe of 5 guys up against a 60 man megatribe. Watch all our tankers get eaten by 20 guys on inprinted gigas. Nty defense is the only option against things like that for smaller tribes. (Literally only have 5 ppl in my tribe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSumo4 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The next patch with the turret limit will end the game itself. 100 turrets can be breached by 1 or 2 stages and a base can be destroyed within 30 minutes if nobody is online. Devs how are people suppose to defend against a massive assault. On my youtube channel Acosta36 and my recent video of a mega alliance wiping a server shows that the attack went through at least 2000 turrets. how can 100 turrets every 60-70 foundations stop 300 people and 100's of soakers???? The game will be ruined by it we have at least 2000 turrets and species x in our front line and have been trying to add more because we know a full force raid can go through that easily. Any thoughts on this patch post here because this will just ruin the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSumo4 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Game is over go check out Atriox vs Django on server 605 youtube by acosta36. And ask yourself would 100 turrets be able to stop that many dines in the fob??? Des don't know one thing about their own game and its pretty sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSumo4 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Olivar said: Then don't Doesn't the problem lie more then with the turrets being destroyable that "easy" or C4 being usable from the stego. Don't get me wrong, I think the change on the turrets is drastic, and I'm not even sure that they thought of all possible balance issues. But unless they revert the change it's coming in 2 weeks. Just thinking out loud here : But reduce the functionality of the stego? The stego's prime goal should be turret distraction/soaking so others can get closer? So removing the ability to use weapons/explosives on top of the stego would mean others sill have to come close with stuff while the stego is soaking. Paracer box ram into a wall put c4 down while in the box and walk away, rip all the turrets lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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