Helam Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Spent all day systematically combing the map (scorched earth) with 2 people. Updated to server version where they are 3x more common (3 x 0 == 0) and combed the entire map again. The whole time we were in heat waves started via admin command. No phoenixes to be found. Finally overcame our strong desire to find one semi-naturally and used admin commands to spawn a couple. Get them tamed. Find out they can burn through their entire food stat in about 1-1.5 full flame dashes (holding space bar) or just a few minutes sprinting around. You need sulfur to feed them but you're stuck on this tiny 1 mph bird that cant move because its food is gone and it dies shortly after of starvation. So basically: 1. Impossible to find. 2. If found, very difficult to tame in the amount of time you have. 3. If tamed (and if you can manage to mount the non-landing thing), and if it can carry your weight, then you can ride it for a couple minutes before it dies of starvation. One of the ones we tamed died of starvation, we rushed the other to an obelisk and uploaded it hoping for some kind of massive rework of the messy things in the future. Even trying to kill something on it is difficult. Aiming the fireball is inconsistent and maneuvering to actually land a hit (something that is difficult enough on other fliers) is impossible because of how slow they. You'd think slow moving would be easy to maneuver but it drifts in the direction you move so you cant even do slow controlled movements. Maybe they can only be found in natural heat waves not started by admin command? But we did test ending and starting the heat waves with the spawned ones and they disappeared and reappeared (The ashes went invisible when the heat wave was gone..? What is that about?). So the spawned ones were affected by the admin command heat waves. Is there some kind of difference in food consumption between admin spawned creatures and regular wild creatures? Something, or many somethings, are very wrong with the phoenix at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonEnchantress Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 They're not that hard to find from what I've noticed (my tribe and I have found and tamed 5 so far.) The time frame isn't an issue because if you fail to tame it after it's been found the first time then it'll spawn back in at the same spot and then you have the entire heat wave to tame it. We tamed it with wyverns every time, it's efficient and works well. I don't have any trouble with food consumption now that it's been more balanced but I'm also not forcing it to speed fly all the time either. If you're having that much trouble keep a few rows of sulfur in your inventory for when you tame it. Practice patience, if making it fast fly keeps killing it then maybe try to not fast fly? Lol I don't mind the hovering feature. You're not required to land and it recovers stanema in the air, I hate being on the ground and vulnerable so this is great imo. You can also get them into nifty positions in your base, I currently have one dead center in my colloseum designed aviary. It makes for a really good center piece with its intense natural lighting xD;; After you tame so many what else do you do with them but place them around and always have cooked meat on them for convenience lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcpullen Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I am having the same experience, couldn't find one naturally during regular heat waves, so I started manually kicking off heat waves and flew up to the top of the sky looking for one - nothing for days. I ended up cheat tame/spawning one last night just to see how it worked, and found it to also be very weak. And I spawned a very high level one too. I'm currently using it inside my base as a non-moving grill and gas maker. Not enough weight to hold any significant amount of metal for smelting. It's a great grill though, worth using for lower creatures to speed up cooking stuff on the run, I like that feature. But what a sad use for a majestic, magical creature. I like how it can regain stam while flying still, but it's hard to re-mount at times (like wyvern and gryphin on follow, they won't get close enough to get back on). I didn't have issues with food running dry from the spacebar/burn run, but I didn't push it that hard. Overall it seems weak for everything, even with the +200% bumps they gave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR-8R Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I do believe the phoenix is bugged , turn invisible . On official server , i spent 5 days looking for it and try to pinpoint its location but found none , and yet there are 3 phoenixes if the note is corrected ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocicat Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Has there been any news from Wildcard if they are in fact bugged? I haven't been able to find any on the Official SE I play on for nearly days now. Wondering if they are in fact, all invisible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocicat Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well, had one spawn in finally after the 269 patch. Someone tried to tame it and it bugged out and vanished DURING a super heatwave. Haven't seen one since (been around 4 days now I think). Are other officials having this issue of phoenixs not spawning in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyanideyoshi Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I agree the Phoenix needs some reworking, because at the moment all I am doing is sitting on a scorched server all day waiting for a heatwave. I have had days when I went 13 hours without a single heatwave, which should not be a thing. This causes the player to sit around and twirl their thumbs until that lucky 5 minute window. I never see any phoenixes during the heatwave because everyone I ask gives me mixed messages. Some people say look in the dunes and others say look in the middle of the map. The Phoenix itself is completely terrible for Pvp. It might have its niches but in the end it will be shot out of the sky in seconds, and its damage is not good enough to take on anything significant. A few solutions would be to make the wild phoenixes render at longer distances, similar to the titanosaur. Also have the damage scale up a little bit based on melee. Would love to breed them as well, but they should make it very difficult, even though I don't think they will be op to any degree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR-8R Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 There is an invisible bug going around with the phoenix , experienced it 1st hand . The same bug is making it very hard to look for them , the entire server was looking for it but nothing found . Please make the phoenix have same rendering range as the Titan or at least have 3 of them during a heatwave , taming the phoenix is the longest taming process .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandreee Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Whats the best way to tame a pheonix they look super cool hehe :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordWing Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 never find one this is so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dthurst Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On the official server that I’m on I’ve flown around during at least 15 heatwaves and have never seen one. Also asked around the server and it seems that nobody has seen any at all since their release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogspoison Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 For food, Sulfur gives 100 food, and can stack up to 100, weighs 5. Its carry weight is only a bit better then Ptera's. Make sure you have some Sulfur before hand to put on the tamed Pheonix, and you probably will want to carry at a couple stacks on the Pheonix constantly (10k food with a full stack, and it goes pretty fast They really aren't a traveling mount though until you get a high lvl one. If you are playing on a private server, I would strongly suggest modifying the various Food Dino stats. It's not fun to deal with starvation. I would up Tamed Dino Food gain per lvl and Tamed Dino Food affinty on tame to 99.9 (max possible), it then removes Dino food as a game mechanic more or less. Don't modify wild dino food stats though - Passive tames only eat the second time when their food has dropped 10% i believe, so if you have it set high, it will take a LONG time to feed the passive tame the second time. As for the spawn rate of the pheonix itself, idk. Its possible that they broke its spawnrate with one of the latest updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorypinky Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Yep it can be invisible my mate could see it but I could not untill I let it out of render and then back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 My tribemate and I have been hunting phoenixes a lot, and I think they spawn similar to how DWs do. When we hunt for DWs we usually walk over their spawn points, and most of the time there's none. On the way back they are all in their usual spot. We found at least 3 phoenixes when we flew over an area for the second time. One time I flew straight out into the desert, and back the exact same way into a phoenix. The other two times my tribemate crossed the path I was taking before and found one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosnova Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The ash needs to be reworked currently unable to see it when the heat wave ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLafer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 By luck we recently tamed one during the Christmas event - Xbox official se pve. I found one at night when there was not a heatwave. It was on the sand at the beginning of the scar, blue obo side. My tribe mates flew over and could not see it but I could, very strange. Once I flew out of rendering range and back towards it, it was gone. Luckily I marked the location with a pillar and built a 4x5x5tall pillar trap. We waited for a heatwave and tamed it using 20 oils, lit by flame thrower and 4 fire wyverns under 2 mins. Since then we have been looking for another but have not seen one, Ive asked numerous people on the server and they haven't either. Hope they do some changes to make this dino more than a base trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordWing Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 never find one feelsbadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxionne Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Where can we find Phoenix? how to we calculate phoenix baby time ? and what do they eat when baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 18.1.2018 at 8:12 AM, Laxionne said: Where can we find Phoenix? how to we calculate phoenix baby time ? and what do they eat when baby? 1. Anywhere on SE during a heatwave 2./3. No breeding possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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