SaltyBeard Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I just tamed a high lvl plesio (lvl 187 atm) and am wondering how it would go killing alpha squids or mosasaurus. Any tips or advice would be welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layton Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Yeah. Don't try it with that plesio. You will lose. Seriously. Don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiDarko Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 This thread may help you as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBeard Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Thanks for the replies. I didn't think it was a great idea but I saw on ark wiki that they can kill alpha squids. Seemed a bit far fetched to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Use a high-level Mosa. Plesio will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBeard Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 How high a level we talking about? Highest wild mosa I've seen so far is 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poozilla Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 A couple weeks ago a friend and I were killed by an invisible level 190 mosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layton Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It is slightly possible that a high health plesio can get grabbed by a squid, attack continuously until squid releases, and then, without moving the plesio, the squid gets trapped in the platform saddle and be unable to hit you while you continue to hit the squid with impunity and you keep the plesio still. Does this work? Sometimes. Should you count on it? It's your plesio. Alpha mosas do not work this way though. The stats on an alpha mosa are nothing to play with. 54,000 base health at level 1. Each level randomized into health gives it 6K more health. Using the random stat distribution, it is quite conceivable that a level 150 alpha could have 200,000 health. Base damage on a normal mosa is 100. At 400 percent melee, that is 400 damage per bite on a tame. Base damage on an alpha is 200. Again, level randomization could leave it with 400 easily. So you would be fighting a battle against a creature that does equal damage to you, and has a health pool five times your size. The saddle and mate boost is key. One on one battles with medium level, or even a high level is accomplishable with a tamed high level mosa and a good saddle. We have a squid with 40K health and 400 melee and 96 armor saddle. Killed a 110 alpha with him. Lost half health. We had to dump a lot into speed so as to not get caught by anglers during squidnapping runs. Not bragging, just establishing a scenario saying, "In this situation, this worked to defeat this". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam Son Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Layton said: It is slightly possible that a high health plesio can get grabbed by a squid, attack continuously until squid releases, and then, without moving the plesio, the squid gets trapped in the platform saddle and be unable to hit you while you continue to hit the squid with impunity and you keep the plesio still. Does this work? Sometimes. Should you count on it? It's your plesio. Alpha mosas do not work this way though. The stats on an alpha mosa are nothing to play with. 54,000 base health at level 1. Each level randomized into health gives it 6K more health. Using the random stat distribution, it is quite conceivable that a level 150 alpha could have 200,000 health. Base damage on a normal mosa is 100. At 400 percent melee, that is 400 damage per bite on a tame. Base damage on an alpha is 200. Again, level randomization could leave it with 400 easily. So you would be fighting a battle against a creature that does equal damage to you, and has a health pool five times your size. The saddle and mate boost is key. One on one battles with medium level, or even a high level is accomplishable with a tamed high level mosa and a good saddle. We have a squid with 40K health and 400 melee and 96 armor saddle. Killed a 110 alpha with him. Lost half health. We had to dump a lot into speed so as to not get caught by anglers during squidnapping runs. Not bragging, just establishing a scenario saying, "In this situation, this worked to defeat this". Do you happen to get an ascendant squid saddle? I've only got MasterCraft so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallor Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 19 hours ago, SaltyBeard said: I just tamed a high lvl plesio (lvl 187 atm) and am wondering how it would go killing alpha squids or mosasaurus. Any tips or advice would be welcome You would want another plesi for mate boost to take on alphas at a minimum, along with very good armor saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappa801 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I took my 158 plesio against a 55 alpha mosa and my plesio has almost 300 melee and the mosa almost killed i had someone following me with a 200 plus mosa to help just in case luckily or else i would have been dead along with my tame. I can kill normal mosas all day just not alphas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayne1973 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Not recommended. I have a 290 plesio with a ramshackle saddle ( best i found so far) tried tangling with a alpha mosa and had to break it off and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pytommy2 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 high lvl and multiple plesi and mosas can kill low to mid lvl alpha mosas and tuso, but quite time consuming a mid to high lvl tuso can kill mid to high lvl alpha mosas (lvl 100) effortlessly by itself From my own experience of having killed hundreds of water alphas, including lvl 100 alpha mosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 It's possible with a good plesiosaur to kill a low level alpha mosa, the highest I've killed is a 25. My plesiosaur has 20k health and 405 melee, it was a 145 tame. It brought me down to 8k health with a journeyman saddle. Unlikely IMO to kill an alpha squid alone, I did it with two friends with a high level alpha squid and we were all on plesiosaurs, but alone I would've died for sure. 187 is not high enough though, my plesio's like 265 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracul Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Highest id killed with my plesios was a 45 alpha mosa but that was with a ASC plat saddle and tons of health (shes got like....24k?) but was pretty rough. Alpha squids arent that bad because they flee at like 20% health. However due to the danger of angler sandwhich or sneaky jellyfish or adds, id recommend saving up for a squid tame or even a basilo - squids are the dominant alpha killers in the ocean (they are exceptionally good at killing alpha squids, without the grab ability alpha squids are much weaker than alpha mosas.) Basilos heal extroidinarily fast a high end one can hit and run repeatedly to wittle down a alpha, some may even get lured up far enough that the basilo can maintain its OP healing. They are also immune to squid grab/jelly attacks (entirely, unlike squids who are just immune to the knockoff) however they are also very slow, you might die of old age before you can get TO the alphas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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