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Please bring official ORP back.  For people like me, the official non server orp is just not realistic between my work schedule and kids.  I have been playing for years and i love orp and i bought ascended thinking it was coming back.  I am currently playing a unofficial orp server, which is fine for now, but it is not the same.  In all honesty if the official orp servers are not brought back, i will end up deleting the game.

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Hello Community,

I hope you're all doing well! I am currently playing on an ARK: Survival Evolved server in the Asa cluster and have a question regarding the Offline Raid Protection feature.

Are there Offline Raid Protection settings on the ARK: Survival Evolved Asa servers? I've spent some time in the game, but I haven't been able to find clear information on this. Offline Raid Protection is crucial for me as it helps maintain a fair and balanced player experience.

If anyone has information or can share details about the Offline Raid Protection on the Asa servers, I would greatly appreciate it. Perhaps someone has already had experiences with Offline Raid Protection on these servers and can provide insights or advice?

I look forward to hearing about your experiences and appreciate any assistance!

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How long more must this request for ORP be ignored? a gamemode long since established in ase, of which more and more will ask for, no other thread on game suggestions has as many upvotes or replies in saying that any thread highlighting the console commands disaster exploit should be up there too.
@wildcard why not give a definite answer as to why not? before you say orp seems popular enough on game suggestions
or is there more obvious reasons that would highlight the shortcomings of the present state?
 

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4 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

You're going to lose it all eventually anyways. ORP is a lie of a game mode

it's pvp the possibility of losing everything remains, but if someone attacks me I can try to defend myself or escape trying to save the most important things, in the same way when I attack I won't find an empty base with no one to defend it, just so I can play real games pvp (player vs player). We know all the problems of the orp (very easy to solve) but we are willing to face them to have a chance to play this game that's what we are saying, we played in orp and had fun and would like to have fun once again in ASA like all other pvp and pve players, is this so wrong? 

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20 minutes ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Wildcard probably doesn't want to support a half baked broken pvp game mode when the original pvp game was designed for 24/7 pvp. Taking away pin codes etc won't stop people from hiding behind ORP abuse. It's unintended gameplay for one person behind alts to control a whole server with orp spam or for a weak tribe to simply kick one offline alt to take all their exterior base structures offline to prevent annihilation from a superior force.  There's so many broken ORP related exploits that GMs can't even keep up with the blatant ORP related abuse tickets on top of the other stuff they have to deal with on regular servers. All ORP means is added moderation cost for s small player base. The cost of re developing ORP code when its not even a main feature of the online pvp game is probably also too high considering other priorities.   ORP moderation would be a great AI use case scenario though if Wildcard was interested in an auto ban hammer approach based on heuristics. Then again there's still a cost to that too.

if they don't have time or money to reopen the orp servers on ASA they could not close the ASE ones 

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3 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Ora hai capito. La simulazione non si interrompe solo perché ti disconnetti. Le persone che descrivi purtroppo rappresentano una buona parte della base di giocatori e nulla impedisce loro di non vivere su orp dietro mille alternative. Questo è più o meno quello che fanno anche quando si stancano dei funzionari regolari. Nel mio precedente cluster ORP , uno di questi senza vita ha praticamente preso il controllo dell'intero server gen1 cercando di vendere addomesticati, spot, ecc. E aveva 5 diverse tribù alternative per diversi biomi, ecc. Un altro senza vita ha spammato tutta l'estinzione. Ogni volta che veniva lanciata una nuova mappa, una vita senza vita spammava intere sezioni della mappa con cancelli, muri e spam orped in modo che nessun altro potesse costruire o ottenere artefatti. Solo un GM che avesse giocato ogni giorno sul cluster se ne sarebbe accorto e sarebbe stato in grado di fermarlo in modo proattivo

I played on playstation both in cross EU 5 and 10 and I have never seen something like this, where I played there was room for everyone, alone I managed to beat all the bosses on the island in medium difficulty plus basic manticore, the wyvern queen and other minor bosses, I don't think I can do it in normal pvp unfortunately. 

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3 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Ora hai capito. La simulazione non si interrompe solo perché ti disconnetti. Le persone che descrivi purtroppo rappresentano una buona parte della base di giocatori e nulla impedisce loro di non vivere su orp dietro mille alternative. Questo è più o meno quello che fanno anche quando si stancano dei funzionari regolari. Nel mio precedente cluster ORP , uno di questi senza vita ha praticamente preso il controllo dell'intero server gen1 cercando di vendere addomesticati, spot, ecc. E aveva 5 diverse tribù alternative per diversi biomi, ecc. Un altro senza vita ha spammato tutta l'estinzione. Ogni volta che veniva lanciata una nuova mappa, una vita senza vita spammava intere sezioni della mappa con cancelli, muri e spam orped in modo che nessun altro potesse costruire o ottenere artefatti. Solo un GM che avesse giocato ogni giorno sul cluster se ne sarebbe accorto e sarebbe stato in grado di fermarlo in modo proattivo

Most PVP and PVE players don't even know that the official ORP existed. Maybe if WD had publicized the ORP more, many more people would play it and there wouldn't be servers that remain half empty and there wouldn't be the creation of absurd situations like what you said. fixes like pins etc would remove other annoying issues, for the issue of foundations blocking areas they have reduced the number of structures you can place a tribe at 5500 before it was 10 times larger and may help decrease the issues you mention, certainly a GM who does his job would definitely be welcome 

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12 hours ago, aikkam said:

I played on playstation both in cross EU 5 and 10 and I have never seen something like this, where I played there was room for everyone, alone I managed to beat all the bosses on the island in medium difficulty plus basic manticore, the wyvern queen and other minor bosses, I don't think I can do it in normal pvp unfortunately. 

lol then either you weren't paying attention, lying, allied with the culprits or completely unaware of what was going on behind the scenes with the sad no life addicts trying to control those clusters. ORP abuse was definitely happening on those clusters and in particular RMT was a driving force behind a lot of it. If you knew, you knew.  ORP should not be implemented again until Wildcard can code better ORP abuse detection/prevention and start banning people by game license copy rather than player account.  It seems that Wildcard has elected not to even bother with ORP though and that's perfectly valid.  Trust me, its better to have no ORP at all than play the same broken variant of it.

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3 minutes ago, aikkam said:

I can't play normal pvp on my own also because my friends who I had convinced to come to ASA's ORP, to finally have a tribe worthy of being called such, don't play for many hours like me, we can't manage pvp normal, only in the ORP we can play if I have to wait to have a better ORP mode I'm not complaining I would just need them to communicate it 

There's the problem. Ark PVP mode was never meant to be a solo or small group game online.  People are supposed to form large tribes and alliances to defend against 24/7 threats on servers. That's just how they designed the game unfortunately. Even smalls has shadow alliances teaming regardless of the rules. 

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I liked the crossark clusters. I think they offer an important alternative to players who want to play official but dont want to live in a mega. Mega life is not for everyone and those of us who like official but want to free of megas should have a place to go.  The ORP clusters were fun. Not perfect, but fun. There are some things that would need to be fixed with it but id like to see them come back.

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On 12/12/2023 at 3:26 PM, aikkam said:

pvp orp is not halfway between pvp and pve. question if I attack a base with no one to defend it am I doing pvp? in my opinion no, attacking an offline base is pve nothing changes from attacking a normal wild dinosaur. only when there are active players on both sides of the conflict is it pvp, a turret or a tamed dinosaur without any player to command them is pve, we want this to be authentic pvp 

Yes. Most of the game is PvE, the only difference that makes it PvP is you can attack others and be attacked. I still believe it's "middle ground" between the two. Basically, being offline with orp is practically making your base PvE setting. 

Sweaty PvPers will just camp until you log in or kite stuff to your base like PvE anyway heh. Or use ORP to make structures invincible using multiple accounts.

Trust me, I get it though. I do hope they change their mind and give you all the ORP servers you are asking for.

I've never heard of ORP being a thing on PvP servers before, so naturally it does seem intriguing if I ever decide to step out of the safety of PvE waters. One of the main fears of PvP for us PvEers is logging in and all of our stuff is gone. Hence middle ground.

I upvoted.

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5 hours ago, mc58 said:

ASE we got those servers, actually 2 clusters ORP, NA and EU(crossark6 and crossark5), they also hav a high pop and got capped all the time, why we can't hav those servers back? Please Dev's bring them back. 

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2 hours ago, FortnitePlayer20 said:

How do you know and why the 24th?

More servers are being released on the 24th. They are non-transfer only servers. I think that person is hoping for ORP to be included in those. I doubt they will be as WildCard has stated more than once they don't have any plans to add ORP servers. But you never know. 

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