Eldar Seer Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 ... Dolphinsong has a point, so I'll drop the debate. On a feedback note, for a creature that is found on all maps, is useful, but not too easy to tame and maintain... why not allow snails to lay eggs, and allow those eggs to produce extraordinary kibble? They require veggie cakes to maintain, so a player needs to be at least somewhat established before taming them. They create cementing paste passively, meaning they are already extremely useful to have around without the ability to lay eggs. They do not take up much space- you can keep them in your house if you so desire. And they do not require kibble or even eat it, meaning they offer a way in to the extraordinary tier that would not require its own kibble. In the same token, dung beetles can fill a similar role if allowed to lay eggs. However, considering they only take feces to tame and maintain, they may work better as an alternate "access ramp" into exceptional or superior kibble rather than extraordinary. Arthropleura could also fill a gateway role if allowed to lay, as they are found on all maps and do not require kibble... but they are not particularly useful, especially not to PvE players. I know some people do tame them, but they are very niche tames. I do think Oviraptor would make a workable gateway, since they are already useful for their passive egg production buff. However, they are not present on Aberration apparently- for them to be a workable gateway, they would need to be added. Their preferred food does make taming them something of a PITA, however, with their appetite for Giga and similarly troublesome eggs- depending on the tier they are meant to be a gateway for, their egg preference may need modification. For animals within the tier system that could serve as gateways to the next, I think Para and Anky are both good candidates. Both are useful- although the para's alarm function's usefulness may be dependent on base location- and both are found on every map. The difference is that while Ankys are relatively compact, Paras are not, which is a point against them. Another point against paras is that dodos and dilos are not found on every map, which means either one or the other would need to be added to Scorched Earth to compensate if para eggs were switched to simple kibble. An alternative would therefore be to move raptors down to basic kibble. They are compact, they do have a use as a speedy scout/expendable bodyguard, and they are on every map. From there, either raptor or para eggs can be bumped up to provide simple kibble while still allowing for a basic kibble provider on all maps. It should be noted Pegomastax does provide simple kibble eggs without requiring a kibble. However while it is tiny and extremely space-efficient, I suspect most players hate them. Furthermore, their usefulness is non-existent in PvE, and limited at best in PvP. It is also not present on Aberration. Edit: On the same note, Morellatops eggs should bump up to regular as Trike eggs apparently are: They fill the role of a trike, and would likewise make for a good gateway into the regular kibble tames from simple kibble. RE: Tek Dinos being a tier up in kibble, I'm not sure that should be the case. My understanding is that is only the case due to the ability to spawn at higher levels than their non-Tek brethren. Considering the rarity and the way level is scaled by default on official maps, I think that is not necessarily the best course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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