DeweyDecimal Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Got kibble together and went looking for a 150 anky. Flew off to a spot where they spawn, spotted one, spyglass out, it's a 150. First one I looked at was 150. Sweet. A few tranq arrows later, she's unconscious. Uneventful tame, it felt weird to feel safe. When she stood up, I plugged her stats into a calculator. Health, Stam, Oxygen, Food.. . All average. Then I got to melee: 49 points. 49. I'm still in disbelief. 49 points, in melee. I was expecting to have to tame a dozen ankys to find a good roll like that. I'm so excited to get this breeding program going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Actually 49? Or dododex 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruvas78 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good on you fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeweyDecimal Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Harrist14 said: Actually 49? Or dododex 49 SA companion app said 49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, DeweyDecimal said: SA companion app said 49. Yeahhh unfortunately those two don't work for post tame stats. They're for wild dinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncola7 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Harrist14 said: Yeahhh unfortunately those two don't work for post tame stats. They're for wild dinos why not? what's the way to do it then? post tame no domestic levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, ncola7 said: why not? what's the way to do it then? post tame no domestic levels. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't work. Use the smart breeding calculator instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncola7 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Harrist14 said: I'm not an expert, but it doesn't work. Use the smart breeding calculator instead. I personally do use the smart breeding one. But in 90% sure that for a fresh tamed dino with no domestic levels the dododex and any other calculator like it will work. A tamed dino with no domestic levels in it has the same stat equation as a wild dino. OP: that's awesome that you found one with 49 points on first try, not going to get much higher without extreme amounts of taming. Will a perfect ankylo be better then a decent mantis though? base speed and carry weight included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, ncola7 said: I personally do use the smart breeding one. But in 90% sure that for a fresh tamed dino with no domestic levels the dododex and any other calculator like it will work. A tamed dino with no domestic levels in it has the same stat equation as a wild dino. OP: that's awesome that you found one with 49 points on first try, not going to get much higher without extreme amounts of taming. Will a perfect ankylo be better then a decent mantis though? base speed and carry weight included. I just checked it, if you'd like an example, both dododex and the SA companion say that a post tame ankylo at level 224 with 400 melee is 60 points. And 400 melee is certainly not 60 points, check it on the smart breeding tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncola7 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 35 minutes ago, Harrist14 said: I just checked it, if you'd like an example, both dododex and the SA companion say that a post tame ankylo at level 224 with 400 melee is 60 points. And 400 melee is certainly not 60 points, check it on the smart breeding tool I don't have access to my breeding tool but 400% melee being 60 points sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMPS0N7 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 That's awesome man, I myself just lost my 145 kibble tamed argy and just replaced it with a 150 perfect tame with 51 points in melee. She just gave me two 100% imprint babies. Got a good start on my breeding program now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewcm Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Nice tames guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddansen Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Don't rain on his parade, it was a perfect tame you lucky dog you.... Now go smesh the heck out of some nodes like the boss you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 46 minutes ago, Teddansen said: Don't rain on his parade, it was a perfect tame you lucky dog you.... Now go smesh the heck out of some nodes like the boss you are I'm not trying to, my bad OP. Good find and well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eESTlane Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 TE bonus boosts food and melee, that's why online calculators don't work. for gods sake, read the print below the calc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvTheAwesomeDevs Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Good Job OP, I wish I had you luck.... all the anks I tame have had between 20-30 points AT MOST in melee you lucky duck, and adding to that I can NEVER find perfect tame, screenshot stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubsero Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 mate, always use the calculator POST tame, after tame the points get randomly distributed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvTheAwesomeDevs Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Zubsero said: mate, always use the calculator POST tame, after tame the points get randomly distributed... Confident he said post tame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubsero Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ILuvTheAwesomeDevs said: Confident he said post tame The first post says 'When she stood up, I plugged her stats into a calculator.' Thats not how it works, U have to use the stats shown while the animals is unconcious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubsero Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 7 hours ago, DeweyDecimal said: Got kibble together and went looking for a 150 anky. Flew off to a spot where they spawn, spotted one, spyglass out, it's a 150. First one I looked at was 150. Sweet. A few tranq arrows later, she's unconscious. Uneventful tame, it felt weird to feel safe. When she stood up, I plugged her stats into a calculator. Health, Stam, Oxygen, Food.. . All average. Then I got to melee: 49 points. 49. I'm still in disbelief. 49 points, in melee. I was expecting to have to tame a dozen ankys to find a good roll like that. I'm so excited to get this breeding program going Im really happy for your 150 tame, but nowhere near is your animal having 49 points into melee, U have to check it BEFORE u actually complete the tame, 49 points is something u will be looking at a second generation bred animal usually... the trick is that after actually taming it it got a lucky boost of randomly distributed points, and those points wont carry over when u will breed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvTheAwesomeDevs Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Zubsero said: The first post says 'When she stood up, I plugged her stats into a calculator.' Thats not how it works, U have to use the stats shown while the animals is unconcious... Oh Kay thank you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh5647 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Zubsero said: the trick is that after actually taming it it got a lucky boost of randomly distributed points, and those points wont carry over when u will breed it... This is wrong, bred stats are based on the stats right after the dino is tamed, but some are harder to calculate because they get a bonus after taming. You can look the bonuses up on http://ark.gamepedia.com. Here is the Anky's page http://ark.gamepedia.com/Ankylosaurus. Scroll down to the stats and you'll see that for melee the Anky gets an additive bonus of 14% and a multiplicative bonus of 17.6%. It just takes some simple math to get the number of points into melee if you know the taming effectiveness. The stat you see on your dino after taming is (post tame stat + additive bonus) * (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative bonus). So solve for post tame stat and you get (stat you see) / (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative bonus) - additive bonus. Since you said 49 points I'm going to assume the melee you saw was about 345%, and the taming effectiveness for a perfect tame anky on official at 1x is 99.2%. Plug in the numbers and you get 345% / (1 + .992 * .176) - 14% = 279.7%. Melee is always a multiple of 5 so we'll round that to 280%, and that's the number you use to get the points into melee which is (280 - 100) / 5 = 36. You can use the same equation for a baby's stats if you haven't imprinted yet, but use 100% for taming effectiveness. For most dinos, melee and food are the only stats that get a taming bonus, so the other stats you can just plug into any stat calculator. tl;dr - Your Anky has about 36 points in melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Ok. Brain-fart/noob-moment here but how do you know if something's a perfect tame? what's with all the calculations etc? can somebody simply explain how you find out if something is a perfect tame or not? I usually use dododex FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvTheAwesomeDevs Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Crows said: Ok. Brain-fart/noob-moment here but how do you know if something's a perfect tame? what's with all the calculations etc? can somebody simply explain how you find out if something is a perfect tame or not? I usually use dododex FYI. Level 150 100% taming effectiveness eg: you don't hit you tame, it gives you extra level/stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Just now, ILuvTheAwesomeDevs said: Level 150 100% taming effectiveness eg: you don't hit you tame, it gives you extra level/stats Oh I understand that, but... wait, so even tranqing a tame like normal won't give you 100% effectiveness? I'm confused lol. I know not to hit them AFTER they go unconscious though, learned that the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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