Darkbibou Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I can just say +1 to the OP. There is tweaking to do to make this nerf more logical (in particular cost reduction on asc blueprints to compensate damage loss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatzaenyia Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheLastNerb said: Never seen so much salt in my life LOL better get back or i'll sprinkle it in your eyes m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastNerb Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Khatzaenyia said: better get back or i'll sprinkle it in your eyes m8 Gosh, have you made half the posts in this thread with nonstop bitching? I can see being mad ab the costs not being nerfed but the actual nerf of the bps, much needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zDrache Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 you sir have my upvote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewLB Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 8 hours ago, AzraelRavenwing said: I got these BPs from loot crates in the desert. So it may just be fished up stuff? nope. Look what they did to my 370% damage sword blueprint that i found in a red drop inside the snow cave. Its now absolutely useless because they ruined the damage yet kept the amount of ingots required to make it at 2770. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873271955 Here is a friends sword bp that was previously 260% damage. 1700 ingots. Basically my blueprint is a throw-away now. and fyi, you CAN'T get a sword BP from fishing! http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/90474193439777030/1F3D0F8150A3794A44351DF45D26A94CE0DF1234/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayn Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The rocket launcher nerf is pure BULLpoop. My ascended and MC ones were the most valuable items i had...and it took a lot of time getting them too. How the f*** am I supposed to kill bosses now, being solo on PVE?? With 100 primitive ones that break every other shot?? And don't give me the usual "bosses aren't supposed to be taken solo" crap because otherwise playing solo on pve/pvp should not be allowed at all. I like playing solo but with other people around, so what?? Shoot me *******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 will they clamp every item to the "max" stats after every serverrestart (same like the spoiltimer)? because i stored my good blueprints in a character which is uploaded and they're not clamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletForce Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, efFDee said: You define absolutely breaking the loot mechanic as "a small issue" that will be addressed in the future? Good luck with that. Quality loot is one of the only things left in end-game, and it's now completely broken, but I'm sure they'll jump right on fixing that now, cuz you said so. This nerf does nothing except cater to new players who haven't made it out of primitive tier, but apparently that's the problem, going by your logic there shouldn't be tiers, just everyone gets the same stuff, I know, we should remove the level system as well!? As I said I am sure they are looking into it. Anyways this has been a good patch for gameplay and balance. 500% rocket launchers were incredibly broken and would have made tek tier walls irrelevant which is probably why rocket launchers and other BP's got reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, BulletForce said: As I said I am sure they are looking into it. Anyways this has been a good patch for gameplay and balance. 500% rocket launchers were incredibly broken and would have made tek tier walls irrelevant which is probably why rocket launchers and other BP's got reduced. I think you are happy cause you dont have rare and good bp. Have u idea how many hour people invested to get a good bp? Nerfing is bad idea untill other things adjust according to this nerf. What majority u talking abt? These are same bunch of guys who always crying cause they cant handle raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayn Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, BulletForce said: 500% rocket launchers were incredibly broken and would have made tek tier walls irrelevant which is probably why rocket launchers and other BP's got reduced. Agreed. But to reset ALL rocket launchers to primitive (even with the 20% boost in dmg) is just pointless and unfair, period. A couple of RL with just over 200% dmg and some decent durability do NOT break the game, especially given the rarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatzaenyia Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, BulletForce said: As I said I am sure they are looking into it. Anyways this has been a good patch for gameplay and balance. 500% rocket launchers were incredibly broken and would have made tek tier walls irrelevant which is probably why rocket launchers and other BP's got reduced. Are you not understanding that nobody in this thread is pissed asf over 500% launchers or????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland151b Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Yeah the Nerf was abit exstensive though I can understand why they did it, stuff was getting crazy with higher armour you need higher damage, and on and on goes the escaltion. Normalisation is fine, it's the extreme price tag attached to most of the stuff that is now on par with MC or even JM BP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabiferi Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Imo: the intention was good, the execution is totally messed up! - instead of hard cap, the percentages should have toned down accross all the tier ranges (not just affecting MC/ASC but gradually toning down all quality tiers. ASC/MC should be better than the lower colors. PERIOD!) - resource costs should have updated accordingly. - early communication about what will happen could be also welcomed. We knew weeks in advance about the sheep, what is a totally irrelevant thing, but they kept people grinding for ASC/MC things what were intended to be ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, szabiferi said: Imo: the intention was good, the execution is totally messed up! What intention you are talking abt bro? Its all happening due to some cry babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabiferi Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, GEonWAR said: What intention you are talking abt bro? Its all happening due to some cry babies. Well... when a vault can be demolished by a handful of rockets, when a metal wall can be oneshotted - its just not balanced. Tribes who had the resources to create such weapons already have their advantage even without it. In the current state, where defence options are very limited, offline raiding is possible, having that powerful weapons are totally unbalanced. I understand team playing should be rewarded, hard work should be rewarded, bigger tribes always naturally have to be more powerful - we are just having different views on the ratio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, szabiferi said: . You are talking abt defence balance, strange! No idea you are aware or not but with this patch Tek shield has been implemented in game, now what? So make a camp near ur base store all artillery and active Tek shield, Where is balance again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabiferi Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 TEK shield also for the tribes who previouly was able to afford the ASC weapons to use on daily basis. Only they have the manpower and resources to farm the bosses for the BPs and element required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 So many people overeating. Rocket Launcher nerfs were very much needed, get rekt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Khatzaenyia said: dude obviously for like the 295435723th ******* time ya i agree on that but they should have done it PROPER, not just nerfed everything including hard earned drop bp to complete and utter garbage so we all have shelves upon shelves of the same bp. like obviously any reasonable person isn't bitching because they don't have their 800% long neck anymore or whatever tf but ****e like the 298.9 asc comp bow bp i had FROM A DROP ya i'm really ******* mad. no apologies. Why do you call what you think is the best "Proper"? What if this is the proper solution, and many BPs were unbalanced, thus nerfed? Just because YOU think something is right, doesn't mean it IS right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatzaenyia Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Crows said: So many people overeating. Rocket Launcher nerfs were very much needed, get rekt. if you honestly thought they needed to all be nerfed down to primitive then you're probably some noob with like 5 turrets on your little half stone half metal base bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, szabiferi said: TEK shield also for the tribes who previouly was able to afford the ASC weapons to use on daily basis. Only they have the manpower and resources to farm the bosses for the BPs and element required. Now you coming on point, for farm bosses you need good bp, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabiferi Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: Just because YOU think something is right, doesn't mean it IS right. You know, what you said should be applied to you as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Khatzaenyia said: if you honestly thought they needed to all be nerfed down to primitive then you're probably some noob with like 5 turrets on your little half stone half metal base bye. You wish that was the case. MC+ launchers were OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEonWAR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Khatzaenyia said: they nerfed even fair and balanced BP You are dreaming mate, Those things they are nerfing not a custom BPs, all implemented by dev them-self. Now they realise oh we did mistake now nerf all no those nerf didnt happen like this. These nerf came due to cry babies, who are bad in game, cant farm good things. Bunch of babies cried and WC feared oh we loose bunch of slaves they nerf all. Go to in little past and try to find how they raptored peoples hardwork like this, if you are new then I am here to tell you what they did in past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatzaenyia Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Crows said: You wish that was the case. MC+ launchers were OP. lmfao they weren't at all and i've had people using them against my damn base, and no i'm not talking about the 400 dmg ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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