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On 1/14/2023 at 2:20 PM, RavensRaze said:

We currently have one extinct big cat in the game, the sabertooth.  It would be nice to see another so I'm putting the cave lion out there.  The thylacoleo doesn't count as it's a marsupial.  They definitely have the size since they use to hunt anything from a mammoth to a short faced bear.

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What how is the Thylacoleo a marsupial? Have you read its definition? The Thylo is a cat. Hense the last part if it's name - ThylacoLEO. Plus there is the Shadowmane as well. Although the Shadow is a made up one. But still a cat.

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8 minutes ago, Dramisty said:

What how is the Thylacoleo a marsupial? Have you read its definition? The Thylo is a cat. Hense the last part if it's name - ThylacoLEO. Plus there is the Shadowmane as well. Although the Shadow is a made up one. But still a cat.

"Thylacoleo ("pouch lion") is an extinct genus of carnivorous marsupials that lived in Australia from the late Pliocene to the late Pleistocene (2 million to 46 thousand years ago)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacoleo

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9 minutes ago, Joebl0w13 said:

"Thylacoleo ("pouch lion") is an extinct genus of carnivorous marsupials that lived in Australia from the late Pliocene to the late Pleistocene (2 million to 46 thousand years ago)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacoleo

Well, this is the marsupial definition:

 

Marsupials are any members of the mammalian infraclass Marsupialia. All extant marsupials are endemic to Australasia, Wallacea and the Americas. A distinctive characteristic common to most of these species is that the young are carried in a pouch. Living marsupials include opossums, Tasmanian devils, kangaroos, koalas, wombats, 

So yhey probably made a mistake. marsupials are pouch animals. There is not possible way it had pouch. Plus, just cause it's from Australia shouldn't be branded as a marsupial.

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1 minute ago, Dramisty said:

Well this is marsupial definition.

 Marsupials are any members of the mammalian infraclass Marsupialia. All extant marsupials are endemic to Australasia, Wallacea and the Americas. A distinctive characteristic common to most of these species is that the young are carried in a pouch. Living marsupials include opossums, Tasmanian devils, kangaroos, koalas, wombats, 

So yhey probably made a mistake. marsupials are pouch animals. There is not possible way it had pouch. Plus just cause it's from australia shouldn't be branded as a maeupial.

 

Not sure what to tell you. It's a marsupial.

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3 minutes ago, Dramisty said:

Technically it's not. No pouch= not marsupial. Still the matter is it still counts as a cat. You and the Wikipedia says lion. Which is a cat.

Tell it to the rest of the internet. 

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/behold-thylacoleo-australias-extinct-giant-marsupial-lion

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07128-z

https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/30489

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2 minutes ago, Joebl0w13 said:

Like I said it is still a lion. So therefore, it is still a cat. So, it still counts.

I don't have to tell the rest of the internet. Because the Thylo in the game does not give birth in a pouch and it walks and talks like a cat.  So should be treated as such. 

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25 minutes ago, Dramisty said:

Like I said it is still a lion. So therefore, it is still a cat. So, it still counts.

I don't have to tell the rest of the internet. Because the Thylo in the game does not give birth in a pouch and it walks and talks like a cat.  So should be treated as such. 

You're right.

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https://blog.csiro.au/quick-facts-marsupials/#:~:text=Not all marsupials have pouches,pockets on a new jacket.

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49 minutes ago, Dramisty said:

Como dije, sigue siendo un león. Por lo tanto, sigue siendo un gato. Así que todavía cuenta.

No tengo que decírselo al resto de Internet. Porque el Thylo en el juego no da a luz en una bolsa y camina y habla como un gato. Así que debería ser tratado como tal.

The thylacosmylids (Thylacosmilidae) are an extinct family of predatory metatherian mammals, related to marsupials, that inhabited South America between the Miocene and Pliocene periods.  
The term marsupial also includes its SMALL SKULL;  his teeth with TRIANGULAR MOLARS and in the mandible a typical angular process turned inwards.

Several examples are the Thylacosmilus Atrox and Lentis, Thylacoleo carnifex, crassidentatus and hilli.

Ah and by the way in Greek Thylacoleo means "lion with a bag" curious, right?

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11 minutes ago, EMI0410 said:

The thylacosmylids (Thylacosmilidae) are an extinct family of predatory metatherian mammals, related to marsupials, that inhabited South America between the Miocene and Pliocene periods.  
The term marsupial also includes its SMALL SKULL;  his teeth with TRIANGULAR MOLARS and in the mandible a typical angular process turned inwards.

Several examples are the Thylacosmilus Atrox and Lentis, Thylacoleo carnifex, crassidentatus and hilli.

Ah and by the way in Greek Thylacoleo means "lion with a bag" curious, right?

Los Thylacoleo hembra sí tenían bolsa. Infórmate.

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40 minutes ago, EMI0410 said:

The thylacosmylids (Thylacosmilidae) are an extinct family of predatory metatherian mammals, related to marsupials, that inhabited South America between the Miocene and Pliocene periods.  
The term marsupial also includes its SMALL SKULL;  his teeth with TRIANGULAR MOLARS and in the mandible a typical angular process turned inwards.

Several examples are the Thylacosmilus Atrox and Lentis, Thylacoleo carnifex, crassidentatus and hilli.

Ah and by the way in Greek Thylacoleo means "lion with a bag" curious, right?

NO where in this definition does it say small head. Triangular molars are canine teeth. Again LION "LION with a bag" And for another our Thylo doesn't have a small head and all his teeth are canine. He also doesn't have a pouch. The definition also doesn't say of what they eat.  Even most listed do eat plants and bugs. 

mar·su·pi·al

[märˈso͞opēəl]

NOUN

a mammal of an order whose members are born incompletely developed and are typically carried and suckled in a pouch on the mother's belly. Marsupials are found mainly in Australia and New Guinea, although three families, including the opossums, live in America.

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1 hour ago, Didome60 said:

The female Thylacoleo did have a pouch. Learn.

how do you know? You have proof? They are extinct. But again, our Thylos Don't have pouches. 

The pouch is a theory. How about you learn. And for your reading is flawed Didome60. I read the whole Wiki. It says nothing of the female had a pouch. 

And for who else wants to argue with me. They can only theorize off of the skull. So, it's only claimed as a marsupial is because of their theories is that it mouth resembles that of the Tasmanian devil. But yet Its body is bigger than a normal lion. And it has stronger claws and apparently a disposable thumb. But then they say is not as strong as a lion. See just theories.

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1 hour ago, Dramisty said:

how do you know? You have proof? They are extinct. But again, our Thylos Don't have pouches. 

The pouch is a theory. How about you learn. And for your reading is flawed Didome60. I read the whole Wiki. It says nothing of the female had a pouch. 

And for who else wants to argue with me. They can only theorize off of the skull. So, it's only claimed as a marsupial is because of their theories is that it mouth resembles that of the Tasmanian devil. But yet Its body is bigger than a normal lion. And it has stronger claws and apparently a disposable thumb. But then they say is not as strong as a lion. See just theories.

Marsupial.

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6 hours ago, Dramisty said:

how do you know? You have proof? They are extinct. But again, our Thylos Don't have pouches. 

The pouch is a theory. How about you learn. And for your reading is flawed Didome60. I read the whole Wiki. It says nothing of the female had a pouch. 

And for who else wants to argue with me. They can only theorize off of the skull. So, it's only claimed as a marsupial is because of their theories is that it mouth resembles that of the Tasmanian devil. But yet Its body is bigger than a normal lion. And it has stronger claws and apparently a disposable thumb. But then they say is not as strong as a lion. See just theories.

https://prehistoria.fandom.com/es/wiki/Thylacoleo

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9 hours ago, Dramisty said:

Technically it's not. No pouch= not marsupial. Still the matter is it still counts as a cat. You and the Wikipedia says lion. Which is a cat.

Thylacoleo is nicknamed after lions due to it's size.
And yes it did have a pouch which is why it is classed as a marsupial.
It's name literally means "Pouch Lion" as others have pointed out, not "marsupial lion" which is one of it's nicknames.

It may look a lot like a "big cat" in ARK but most realistic depictions of Thylacoleo portray it looking more like a big rat like creature or having a face far more like other marsupial species such as Tazmanian Devils for example.

As for it's teeth, it barely had or didn't have any canines what so ever unlike many carnivore species which do typically have large canines/fangs, cats included.
Thylacoleo's mouth was defined largely by it's massive incisors, like a rat and other rodent species which negated any need for canines.

Thylacoleo is one extinct species we have multiple complete fossils of too, so we have a pretty good idea of what it looked like, and it was not a cat.

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14 hours ago, Dramisty said:

Like I said it is still a lion. So therefore, it is still a cat. So, it still counts.

By that logic sea lions are cats and not pinnipeds because they have lion in the name. Lion fish are also cats too by that line of logic. It's okay to admit you're wrong rather than doubling down you know.

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