DotStop Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If anyone plans on doing Broodmother on Hard mode and you haven't done her before, please do yourself a favor and practice on medium first and make sure you can get her stuck consistently so that she doesn't attack you, I don't want anyone to lose their rexes because they were ill-prepared.. You can even practice on easy if you want to save the tribute resources. If you do not get her stuck she will demolish you and your rexes before you have a chance to kill her no matter what HP or Armor you have on your saddles, that being said however I still encourage to NOT skimp on a decent hp pool or a good Saddle BP. We did Broodmother on Hard tonight and it actually went pretty well, but only because we got her stuck. We took in 3 players/20 rexes and of those rexes, the stats that 80% of the rexes we were running were 25k HP and a little bit above 700% melee. (See first Screenshot) When we went in and started moving our rexes into position a couple of them got stuck momentarily while they ran into one of the pillars, because Dino AI isn't the smartest AI. One of the rexes in particular "Zella" Took a few hits before we got into positioned and before we got the boss pinned. Zella lost 19k of her 25k HP after the fight was over with a 86.4 armor saddle and even the other rexes took 3-5k damage even though we had her pinned for 95% of the fight. In the 2nd and 3rd screenshots below you can see Zella and the damage she has taken via the blood marks. In the 4th screenshot is a picture of Zella's stats several hours later(taken for this post that I decided to make later). Also a testament to not mess around with the baby spiders, one of our rexes (Helsa) took a dive off the bridge and died in about 30 seconds or so just to the Araneos alone, that being said the spiders are only able to be summoned if the Broodmother is not pinned. The 5th screenshot is Broodmother's stats postmortem if anyone was curious. Some Final Notes : Until there is a rebalance on the bosses(if ever) I do not think it is physically possible to kill Broodmother with out pinning her, if you do not pin her she is demolish your rexes before you have the chance to dish out enough damage. There is a fair bit of improvement we could do and want to do for our rexes but in a 1v20 head-to-head match I do not believe the rexes would win, even with the improvements such as 45+ base HP stat, 100% imprint, or a higher armor rex saddle. If I left any important details I include them in an edit or if anyone has any questions feel free to post here. Also as a shameless plug, if anyone is selling 45+ rex stats that are unmutated/wild tame I'm very much interested in buying anything except for melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loui Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Good post and great info here thanks for that. Any tips on the getting her stuck part? That's what I'm worried about. I've seen videos where they get her stuck on the bridge? But I'm not sure what they do exactly. If you can give any details on that I'd really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex114 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Loui said: Good post and great info here thanks for that. Any tips on the getting her stuck part? That's what I'm worried about. I've seen videos where they get her stuck on the bridge? But I'm not sure what they do exactly. If you can give any details on that I'd really appreciate it. Just get her stuck as SOON as you can. We also did it on hard and only loss we had was the two breeded rexes from one player, cause the acid attack of the brood took them down. Just avoida cid attacks and run directly body to body, as soon as you can, dont waste time or acid attacks will kill your dinos or players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loui Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alex114 said: Just get her stuck as SOON as you can. We also did it on hard and only loss we had was the two breeded rexes from one player, cause the acid attack of the brood took them down. Just avoida cid attacks and run directly body to body, as soon as you can, dont waste time or acid attacks will kill your dinos or players So just rush in there and surround her with rexes? And on the bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex114 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Loui said: So just rush in there and surround her with rexes? And on the bridge? No we didnt do it on bridge. Bridge is very bad tactic cause rexes can fall and then stay forever under - Block it the faster you can, preferably after she crossed the brdge - if one guy got hurt ONCE by acid with his rex he goes back and let others go first - just go asap in close combat with ascendant saddles you wont take much dmg, the priority is to close combat the faster to avoid acid attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DotStop Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 So what we did is we painted the rexes we wanted to ride different colors for each person. When we went in we had one person (me in this case) whistle all of the rexes to the back wall(a wipe would actually probably help a ton to help them face the right direction so that they don't have to do a circle.) While all the rexes are moving their way to the back wall we all that the opportunity to find and mount the rexes that we want to ride. You want to bait broodmother to somewhere between the platform you spawn on and the back wall, although you don't want to waste to much time. When we think broodmother is in a good location to attack we all move it and we whistle attack this target, which is the period key by default. After you go in with all your rexes its pretty much having all the mounted riders just stand as far in the broodmother as possible(as far as I know). She might do some rotating around but she never attacked when she rotated. We bait her back because like Alex114 said, fighting on the bridge is a very bad idea because it is very very very easy for your rexes to just run off into the chasm below, in which case your pretty much permanently down a rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex114 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, DotStop said: So what we did is we painted the rexes we wanted to ride different colors for each person. When we went in we had one person (me in this case) whistle all of the rexes to the back wall(a wipe would actually probably help a ton to help them face the right direction so that they don't have to do a circle.) While all the rexes are moving their way to the back wall we all that the opportunity to find and mount the rexes that we want to ride. You want to bait broodmother to somewhere between the platform you spawn on and the back wall, although you don't want to waste to much time. When we think broodmother is in a good location to attack we all move it and we whistle attack this target, which is the period key by default. After you go in with all your rexes its pretty much having all the mounted riders just stand as far in the broodmother as possible(as far as I know). She might do some rotating around but she never attacked when she rotated. We bait her back because like Alex114 said, fighting on the bridge is a very bad idea because it is very very very easy for your rexes to just run off into the chasm below, in which case your pretty much permanently down a rex. The ROCK just after the bridge is also a real cancer (if a dev is reading this) most of the rexes getstuck on it, i never seen such trash in a video game, cant you just fix the rocks and dinos behavior, to resume be carefull about this rock on right side of the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltten Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Pinning does make it much easier. Personally i like to bring the brood to us.. fighting it on the platform allows you to get everything ready as it walks over to you. So harder to get stuck and all. just don't let the rexs touch the back wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelin Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 How about bringing in 20 Therizinos with cakes would that also work? can Therizino's pin the brood aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltten Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 38 minutes ago, Vaelin said: How about bringing in 20 Therizinos with cakes would that also work? can Therizino's pin the brood aswell? I believe they are to small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The pinning strat will be the first thing they patch out before ever thinking of rebalancing bosses, so take advantage while you can. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loui Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Yeah thanks for the info on pinning guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monifa Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Interesting post. Thanks for sharing mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armythug Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 1:39 AM, Keltten said: Pinning does make it much easier. Personally i like to bring the brood to us.. fighting it on the platform allows you to get everything ready as it walks over to you. So harder to get stuck and all. just don't let the rexs touch the back wall. What would happen if the rexs touch the back wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkelley23 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnywhereButTheFace Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 We bested on Med, but for some reason Brood wouldn't follow us down under the bridge. It got a little scary for a minute, but we eneded up going back up to bridge, getting the pin, then the win. Did lose one dino that got stuck on wall under bridge. More element than 28 would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltten Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 5/1/2017 at 0:26 AM, Armythug said: What would happen if the rexs touch the back wall? Bad stuff... Walls are not the most perfect items on this map.. getting stuck is possible. As the post above this a rex got stuck in a wall under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom55 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 thanks for informations.will be helpfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeisaQT Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Appreciate the tip, will have to practice a lot more on easy or medium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxDawbyxZ Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Yeah, it makes the boss fight much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEliteH2 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I've had an allied tribe use turtles to lift her up and prevent those acid sprays/spider spawns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milagro Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 anyone done this since the latest patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkCreation Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Thanks for posting this. A great documentary of what is needed if you're zerging bosses without support dinos. As of right now the meta will start to change when more players seek out breeders to bring in daeodons and Yutyrannus into these fights for the buff and healing. I suspect this is where the game will eventually go. Even when going in with Therzi. And we won't necessarily need these super end game breeded rexes. Until then the minimum for these fights will be somewhat of a mystery unless someone decides to crunch numbers and post it. I would like to know if the kentro's utility works on bosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btsimmons2 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Do it on hard and never again. She is not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roogini Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Rip all noobs who do not read this post and go into hard without preparations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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