brenon45 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Can you build in the Ruins/Caves/Castle or near Water well spots on PVE on the new Ragnarok map? I know on the -Island- map you cannot build in caves at all, and on the -Center- map you can buid in a FEW caves and ruins, and on -SE- map you cant build anywhere near water well spots... But what about the new Ragnarok? PVE Ragnarok Build-Zone checklist- Water vein areas = YES Ruin areas = Yes. Castle = YES Caves = YES. Dungeon Ruins/Caves = YES. Subterranean Caves = YES. Boss Caves/Dungeons/Ruins = NO. Extra+ Flying in Caves = YES. Build around Obilisk = NO. Build around Drops = NO. Drops in water for aquatic creatures = Maybe - If you can find a post/reddit thread that may help correct anything inaccurate, please post it or message me the link. (Yes this thread is for all console ark or even pc players that are seeking information that is hard to find.) Thank you to : Zed38 : for assisting with a great deal of juicy information. _ Zed38 Essentially, Ragnarok is a lot less restricted in build rules - i suspect this was done because of the vertical cliffy nature of the map, the focus on gryphons and ice wyverns, and lack of ease of access for land dinos in most places (especially gigas). Additionally, the rules are relaxed and left for players to manage so as to not cause excessive additional stress on Bob and Jane (the people doing ticket support for the world). essentially there are only a few places you cant build. around supply drops and obilisks, and the cave systems that have bosses. all caves are Flier Enabled. A picture of my lightup project in teh caverns under castle: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950271489 A picture of the cave under the frozen lake in the snow (2 entrances, can be secured with a behemoth gate each, no issues as of yet with dinos falling thru frozen lake). http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=946348381 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950858160 A picture of inside the lava golem boss cave: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950871059 The Gryphon trap on top of a water node: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950864607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetPopped Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure if there are no elemental, you CAN build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 They do need to tend to this PVE not allowing building on the wells even with the option enabled, if it is still occurring. It's so long back I can't find the thread where it was discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, BubbaCrawfish said: They do need to tend to this PVE not allowing building on the wells even with the option enabled, if it is still occurring. It's so long back I can't find the thread where it was discussed. We were able to build near wells around the first 2 weeks on Scorched then they blocked off building near wells or the obs.. The other parts of my question are what im worried about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, brenon45 said: We were able to build near wells around the first 2 weeks on Scorched then they blocked off building near wells or the obs.. The other parts of my question are what im worried about... What it came back to was something around that time was brought in, in particular the revised cannot build spots for metal nodes and such. They need some communal system to allow tribes/alliances to share water sources. Or to allow them to be open to all, so that alliances wouldn't matter as such in that regard. But it wasn't 'just' the water wells, something was done around that time that also affected the no-build status of the wells. Even with the setting allowing people to build there, it doesn't take effect somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, GetPopped said: Don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure if there are no elemental, you CAN build. elemental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, brenon45 said: elemental? He's likely thinking of the rock elemental... But as I said, chances are this is linked to the non-building on wells that Scorched has set, where you can't use them as they are classed as metal node spawns, or something relevant to the stopping of building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, BubbaCrawfish said: He's likely thinking of the rock elemental... But as I said, chances are this is linked to the non-building on wells that Scorched has set, where you can't use them as they are classed as metal node spawns, or something relevant to the stopping of building. Metal node spawns dont stop building... I understand if they put a build blocker like wells and obs are from scorched, but metal nodes have no effect on build blocking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, brenon45 said: Metal node spawns dont stop building... I understand if they put a build blocker like wells and obs are from scorched, but metal nodes have no effect on build blocking... We even discussed (Not in the thread below, but the one where it was reported) this very factor in the thread I seen regarding this issue of not being able to build on wells, on Scorched Earth, in PvE. PvP servers can simply disable the setting, but even in PvE when disabled, this takes effect regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well thats the water well info, most likely no building near it which means alot of really cool locations are blocked already, gg wildcard, but still no info about ruins and caves thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Ruins were stated that you'd be able to build them into your base designs. Cave Building is unlikely to have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 10 hours ago, BubbaCrawfish said: Ruins were stated that you'd be able to build them into your base designs. Cave Building is unlikely to have changed. Ok, im still searching around for info and made a list at the main post from what i can or cant find. If you know more please post it so i can update it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 How is it no one knows if you can or cant build at these locations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 22 hours ago, BubbaCrawfish said: Ruins were stated that you'd be able to build them into your base designs. Cave Building is unlikely to have changed. Ok i added that to the list, cave building im still worried about, not the caves directly but actually the subterranean cave system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 hours ago, brenon45 said: How is it no one knows if you can or cant build at these locations? The thread has barely been up for a few days. Give it time, also i would suggest reddit to actually get answers (from players and devs) .. these forums are massivley restricted in both content and limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 6/16/2017 at 5:44 PM, d1nk said: The thread has barely been up for a few days. Give it time, also i would suggest reddit to actually get answers (from players and devs) .. these forums are massivley restricted in both content and limitations. Looked around reddit as well, people have asked the same thing but they usually end up getting way offtopic and they go no where very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 8 hours ago, brenon45 said: Looked around reddit as well, people have asked the same thing but they usually end up getting way offtopic and they go no where very quickly. Such is any internet forum Heres a free legal bump anyways haha! I did a thread like this for The Center when it came to consoles and it went well.. maybe the PvE in title scares people off haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 17 hours ago, d1nk said: Such is any internet forum Heres a free legal bump anyways haha! I did a thread like this for The Center when it came to consoles and it went well.. maybe the PvE in title scares people off haha! Thanks, and i think the PVE does scare people off, alot of players think us pve players arent worth much, but we can help find things out that are usefull sometimes, besides we got it worse with lack of picking up wild dinos or making alot of dinos useless with out the abilities and limited off map parts... Going off topic, still looking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogfrag Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Have asked this in other posts but does ragnarok have a spot to transfer water dinos?? Other than a tek transmitter of course, supply drop, OB close to deep water things of this nature. Any info would be helpful before release on console on the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bulldogfrag said: Have asked this in other posts but does ragnarok have a spot to transfer water dinos?? Other than a tek transmitter of course, supply drop, OB close to deep water things of this nature. Any info would be helpful before release on console on the 4th. I have seen 2 drops in some youtube videos of players showing off the map, maybe more but i can say ive seen 2... I dont know the regions or spawn locations, but i bet this player made map had it in mind for the players sake. And the obs look like there on islands so i presume you cant use the obs for water dinos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewcm Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm currently looking for a water drop location myself. If I find one I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 7 hours ago, fewcm said: I'm currently looking for a water drop location myself. If I find one I'll post it. Ok thanks, since i dont have a pc im stuck with other peoples youtube vids to find info lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed38 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 0:34 PM, brenon45 said: Can you build in the Ruins/Caves/Castle or near Water well spots on PVE on the new Ragnarok map? I know on the -Island- map you cannot build in caves at all, and on the -Center- map you can buid in a FEW caves and ruins, and on -SE- map you cant build anywhere near water well spots... But what about the new Ragnarok? PVE Ragnarok Build-Zone checklist- Water vein areas = presumed a No. ANSWER: BUILDABLE, NO RESERVE (we built our gryphon trap right on top of one), in fact, the water vein inside the castle courtyard had another tribe put down a water thingy on the vein *after* we had reserved the land. Wasnt expecting that but no big deal. they left it unlocked, and we can pipe water from the swamp just below the castle easily enough when needed. Ruin areas = stated by devs as Yes. ANSWER: BUILDABLE Castle = Unknown ANSWER: BUILDABLE (we live there) Caves = presumed a Yes. ANSWER: BUILDABLE (except boss caves) Dungeon Ruins/Caves = presumed a No. ANSWER: BUILDABLE (except boss caves) Subterranean Caves = presumed a No. ANSWER: BUILDABLE (we live there, the caverns under castle) Reply if you can answer these above and i will change it. If you can find a post/reddit thread that may help correct anything inaccurate, please post it or message me the link. Yes this thread is for all console ark or even pc players that are seeking information that is hard to find. see replies inside your quote above. Essentially, Ragnarok is a lot less restricted in build rules - i suspect this was done because of the vertical cliffy nature of the map, the focus on gryphons and ice wyverns, and lack of ease of access for land dinos in most places (especially gigas). Additionally, the rules are relaxed and left for players to manage so as to not cause excessive additional stress on Bob and Jane (the people doing ticket support for the world). essentially there are only a few places you cant build. around supply drops and obilisks, and the cave systems that have bosses. all caves are Flier Enabled. A picture of my lightup project in teh caverns under castle: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950271489 A picture of the cave under the frozen lake in the snow (2 entrances, can be secured with a behemoth gate each, no issues as of yet with dinos falling thru frozen lake). http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=946348381 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950858160 A picture of inside the lava golem boss cave: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950871059 The Gryphon trap on top of a water node: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950864607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenon45 Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Zed38 said: see replies inside your quote above. Essentially, Ragnarok is a lot less restricted in build rules - i suspect this was done because of the vertical cliffy nature of the map, the focus on gryphons and ice wyverns, and lack of ease of access for land dinos in most places (especially gigas). Additionally, the rules are relaxed and left for players to manage so as to not cause excessive additional stress on Bob and Jane (the people doing ticket support for the world). essentially there are only a few places you cant build. around supply drops and obilisks, and the cave systems that have bosses. all caves are Flier Enabled. A picture of my lightup project in teh caverns under castle: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950271489 A picture of the cave under the frozen lake in the snow (2 entrances, can be secured with a behemoth gate each, no issues as of yet with dinos falling thru frozen lake). http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=946348381 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950858160 A picture of inside the lava golem boss cave: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950871059 The Gryphon trap on top of a water node: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=950864607 Thank you so much for the detailed information, i appreciate all the help you just gave to the topic. You are an ARK hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogfrag Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 19 hours ago, fewcm said: I'm currently looking for a water drop location myself. If I find one I'll post it. Thanks for keeping an eye out want to move mosa over when we move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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