Matteo2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Base under cliffs - question on what structures blocks spawns Hi all, I'm looking for some advice with stopping dinosaurs getting into our base and killing our tames. We are playing on a server where the damage and resistance of tamed dinos is nerfed (at 2.3x) so wild dinos can do a lot of damage. We have a base in the SW Jungle in the centre and it's under a cliff. There is a tower and a pen surrounded by a high perimeter wall. At the moment wild dinos are getting in and I'm not sure if they're jumping off the cliff or spawning inside. 1. The first question is on how to stop dino spawning inside the base? I understand foundations do the trick but I'm wondering if walls on fences do the same? The best information I can find on this is from some testing done by Donthommo (see link below) which suggests that walls on fences do the same as foundations. However, we're using the "big wall" mod on steam and I have no idea if they do the same? I have posted on the workshop page but there's no reply yet. 2. The second question is how to stop wild dinosaurs dropping into the base from the cliff without affecting the metal rock spawns up there? I imagine normal walls would stop spawns but the Donthommo testing (see below) suggests that spike walls are what we need. However, spike damage is switched on (on our server) so I'm sure we'd need metal spike walls if we don't want them getting destroyed, and they're expensive! Thanks, Matteo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Use fences.. their no spawn radius is fairly low.. placed correctly they don't block any metal. No dinos will fall into your base. As for the dinos spawning inside your base... you cannot win.. they sometimes do. Not very often that happens in ours but it does. Different angle... But doing the same on the south side of the plateau (facing skull island) would be impossible... metal ores on that side are just close to the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Wow, thank you for this reply and the excellent screenshots. Are you sure about walls? The testing in the video I posted shows that walls on fence foundations stop spawning for 15 tiles in all directions (or 12 tiles for metal nodes). Have a look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 A few more screenies for you... these walls were built ages ago. Pretty much all our server gets metal from this location.. Try the fences.. wait for metal to respawn.. correct it if it does block something.. even if you block one ore somewhere I don't think it will be such a drama. And this is the south side that it would be impossible to do if you had base there.. Metal is just too close to the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Thank you for the additional screenshots. Yeah, I can see that you've still got metal spawning pretty close to those walls (it certainly looks less than the 12 tiles I saw in the testing video!) From memory I think the metal is pretty close to the edge where we've built our base but I'll have to check. I guess the answer is to create a test server to try it out and see what happens. If the metal doesn't respawn then I'll use spike walls instead. I can't see any disadvantage of spikes (instead of walls) on PvE at the moment but that's probably because I've never tried them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 We built metal walls back in the day when we had Gigas spawning around our base. Now gigas spawn only in lava island and north snow biome so now the wall like this looks a bit ott. Try with the spike walls if you want.. But I haven't tested them. All I can say is the fences work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The most simple thing would be to stop playing on The Center. People here constantly complain about Dinos spawning in their bases. I saw multiple videos and gifs of Dinos randomly spawning in air in players bases, on their roofs and just in general proximity to players. What I feel is that the Center mod guy just failed to do the spawns properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: The most simple thing would be to stop playing on The Center. People here constantly complain about Dinos spawning in their bases. I saw multiple videos and gifs of Dinos randomly spawning in air in players bases, on their roofs and just in general proximity to players. What I feel is that the Center mod guy just failed to do the spawns properly. Mod guy is not given time to work on the Center map and it gets neglected compared to other two maps. It's still the best map out of three imho. I played 1.5k hours on the island.. then I moved to the Center and I was like.. wow The island is a boring map, the Center deserves more love from the other devs even though it's not their baby. They added it as an official map, but you shouldn't treat adopted child worse than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Musketeer said: Mod guy is not given time to work on the Center map and it gets neglected compared to other two maps. It's still the best map out of three imho. I played 1.5k hours on the island.. then I moved to the Center and I was like.. wow The island is a boring map, the Center deserves more love from the other devs even though it's not their baby. They added it as an official map, but you shouldn't treat adopted child worse than your own. You're right. It should get more love. And it would be the better map. But right now, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Thanks both. I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that The Center is the problem because: (i) when I built the initial wall I didn't know what the spawn radius around walls was and it's easily possible that I left gaps which were too large; (ii) building a base underneath a cliff was always going to invite unwanted dinos to "drop in"; and (iii) I'm using the "big walls" mod and I have no idea if they affect spawns the same as normal walls. I will test the above and post my findings. I think The Center is a fascinating map and will be the most interesting to play until the Valhalla guys fix Valhalla or release Ragnarok (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776464863). I will also let you know how I get on with spike walls vs. normal walls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRogerWilco Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Only real (square) foundations seem to really block spawning. I can put a pillar or fence foundation or spiked walls down and a wild dino or rock will respawn through/on top of it. Source: We have ResourceNoReplenishRadiusStructures=0.1 on our private server so it's really easy to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRogerWilco Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Irk just added in another topic that adding a ceiling to a pillar will make it function like a normal foundation for spawn blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo2000 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi all, So just to post the results of my testing. Spike walls make no difference to spawns. Normal wooden walls on fence foundations stop resource spawning up to 12 tiles away and stopped the metal nodes from coming back. I got around the problem by using walls from the "big wall" mod, which for some reason don't affect spawning. I have recently added structures+ so next I'll check if those walls affect spawning. Either way I now have a solution and no more wild dinos in the base (save for flyers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 When you say 12 tiles do you mean 12 foundations.. that cannot be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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