TinyHippo

The gamma monkey is so stupidly easy to kill you can do it with trikes and worse. Hyeanas will kill that weak as hell ape. The hardest part is getting the artifacts. The artifacts are a bit tricky but once you know what you're doing or if you bring a high level bary with a decent saddle you'll be fine for the surface caves. The underwater cave for the monkey is a joke. Just go for them when you have spare stuff, even a failure is just information to help you next time.

>kill a snake >get 0 venom >repeat to infinity SNAKES WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME

That may be what you were thinking, but here's the full quote from Rockwell: The obelisk is reacting to the presence of the artifacts with even more intensity than I expected. Each obelisk on the Island required eight artifacts to generate that sort of response, not three. In other words, I may not need to do any spelunking before summoning whatever terrifying beast this ARK has in store for me. Rockwell is clearly referring to artifacts themselves when he says this, not to just general tributes. The Island's obelisks required 3, 3, and 4 artifacts to summon a boss, 10 in total for all of them, but according to Rockwell you'd need 8 each, 24 in total. Also, if he was including tributes, he still couldn't reach 8 total items because each tribute (with exceptions) needs 5 for even beta so the number would be way past 8 Point is, it's inconsistent with the gameplay, and we therefore can't make any conclusions based on this. We can't even say for sure if the 3 difficulties exist story-wise instead of just being one boss. Sure the Sanctuary says something about gamma level personnel so the gamma/beta/alpha tier dynamic exists but that doesn't really mean anything about bosses on Arks. So I think we should just go with 'they beat the bosses' and not try to figure out any difficulties or anything.

Very interesting, I hadn't noticed that. I guess I was wrong then, it seems she did fight the Overseer. Nerva had already left which means he already finished the Overseer fight, there are no enemies there for her other than the Overseer again, which makes sense as it was supposed to test each team that went through. Then again though, Mei must've snuck in before the door closed which would've meant she was with Nerva's group and the completion should've included her too. I'd suggest she might've meant it metaphorically as in the challenge of using the console was her new foe but it just doesn't seem very metaphorical when reading it. I don't think we can guess whether they did alpha or gamma or what though, there are too many discrepancies. No obelisk on the Island needs 8 artifacts to activate. To answer your question though, you can use alpha trophies for gamma (or beta) access, and you can use beta trophies for gamma access.

Probably because Mei went alone after them and in gameplay the cave would've closed behind Nerva and Mei would've had to go through it over again. This is a time where gameplay and story don't 100% match, Mei definitely didn't fight the Overseer or anything

I'd wager the implant was probably step 1 for ascending. Chances are good that the implant was used as a common tool among humans in the tek era, for all the good and bad that a device that like can do. Either that, or it was only used by a few people and was just made standard for the Ark Survivor program.

Yea, it would be an uneasy alliance to say the least, but the cat's out of the bag and he obviously didn't want to leave the Sim yet so he might just go for it That's something I hadn't considered. Rockwell could have corrupted someone else and that's why it looks so different. That would make sense. However, I get the feeling that it would still follow a general pattern with Rockwell, like how all Corrupted things on Earth followed a general visually similar appearance. Yea, that prism... Well, I'm not really sure what to make of it. It glowed like the sun according to the notes, so I'd expect a bright orange color or similar, but we haven't seen anything like that besides the normal artifacts which obviously are not the same thing. Its purpose seems to clearly be to prep someone for ascension to Deus, but that's really all we know.

1) The Overseer is the AI that maintains the entire system of any given Ark, and how it all works together. I think it would be more correct to say that the Observation Deck is what holds up the forcefield. When Diana and friends bombed the Deck, the forcefield went with it, which allowed the sun to destroy the surface after. Meanwhile, we can see that on Earth, the obelisks hold the task of both maintaining the environment and stopping the Corruption (lore wise) from getting in. Quite frankly, I'd wager that the obelisks are much more versatile than just one single purpose, I'd guess that they served as a sort of central point of a given city or so (like the Sanctuary) and were also used as a way to maintain an environment in an area and many other purposes, and teleporting is just one of many. They create a network between eachother and have all the uses that come with it. Helena Deus describes the Obelisks as a 'source of power.' I think it's most correct to say that their main purpose is to be a central point of an area. 2) We know that AP is connected to the CS (colony ship) because AP is connected to the GenSim (Helena Deus had to go to Arat Prime to access the GenSim) which is connected to the CS, so at the very least, AP is indirectly connected to the CS and if you want to get to the CS then AP is where you need to go. As for the unstable life, I'd guess that refers just generally to the element-adapted and Corruption that exists on the planet, or maybe even us, but definitely not to normal humans.

It's my opinion that the Arks were the colony ship that was supposed to return to Earth. They held a massive population by way of cloning and were capable of removing the element, there's no need to have a second colony ship return to Earth, so I theorize that the colony ship we're on is a backup plan in case the Arks don't/can't cleans the Earth properly and thus is headed to some other unknown (to us) destination. Further, the name 'colony ship' kinda implies that it's not supposed to be at home. Unrelated to that, but... I can't stop thinking about how Rockwell, upon being defeated in the Genesis Simulation, says "Defeat me here, and you doom youself Survivor, wait till I find you... In the world beyond" Now, at first glance he just seems to be threatening us, but... I think this could also be a more serious warning. Why do I say this? Well, he says 'wait till I find you'... The 'wait' implies that he isn't going to instantly be there like what grabbed us. Next... I want you to take a close look at the tentacle in the end cutscene and compare it to Rockwell's tentacles. Take a close look. Take a closer look. They are 0% similar. Their only comparison is that they're both tentacles. Now sure, Rockwell could have designed some completely new tentacles for some strange reason, but don't you think he'd use something similar? Rockwell's tentacles had a clear pattern in their design, while the one that grabs us is much more random and has no pattern at all... Similar to normal Corruption... I don't think I need to say it outright, but I think that we were attacked the same Corruption that hit Earth, NOT Rockwell. Now, the Corruption followed us out of the Simulation. We can reasonably assume then, that if it only left when we did, it had to wait for us to leave for it to. In other words, the Corruption was trapped in the Simulation with us and Rockwell. In other words, so long as no one left, we had all the time we needed to destroy the Corruption in the Sim. Rockwell could have been exterminating all traces of Corruption as we were surviving (or dying) in the Sim, however, one particular part of the Simulation chose to hide itself from Rockwell, and that left a pocket for the Corruption to survive: In the code of the Moeder. By leaving when we did, we allowed the Corruption to follow us out before Rockwell could finish exterminating it. Rockwell is also building an army in the Simulation built to survive absurd levels of hazards, why would he need such an army if it's just him and the colony ship and his minions? He wouldn't. He would just take over everyone and call it a day if that was his plan. He would leave the Sim and evolve his humans while he takes over the ship, not wait, he wouldn't wait for no reason. Meanwhile, Rockwell still has business in the GenSim, so he'll still be doing work in there while we're out and about. That doesn't necessarily mean that he won't also be working around outside of the Simulation as well though. This theory has its basis in two main aspects: 1) The tentacle that grabs us follows a visual theme closer to Corruption than Rockwell 2) Rockwell needs an army prepared for extreme circumstances before leaving the sim Now then, why did he say 'wait till I find you' if it wasn't a threat? The Corruption is clearly a threat to him, and he wants it gone. We also want the Corruption gone. He could very well have been hinting that he plans on finding us so we could, as a '''team,''' fight the Corruption off. Now, this is mostly speculation, and hinges largely on the fact that what grabs us does not at all look like Rockwell, who, as we know, can change his appearance, but regardless, the fact that he needs an army before leaving the sim implies that there is some dangerous enemy that will attack him if he gets in the colony ship so this explains both parts, but it could also be very wrong, so I'm not going 100% on this theory (yet.)

Yea, it says Helena and Mei will return... But what about Diana? It does seem like something happened to her I'd argue the part about that being the obelisks' main purpose... Their main purpose is to maintain an environment. Teleporting is more of a secondary feature, at least for the ones on Earth. It's possible that on the Arks they're primarily for teleportation and the giant overseer deck maintains the environment, we don't know a whole lot about that. Keep in mind though that even the city terminals can teleport things and they are much, much smaller than obelisks, so if the primary purpose of obelisks was to teleport stuff, I think we could expect to see much smaller things, and then we also have the player craftable teleporters too. But anyway, it's a good idea. One that I overlooked too, it does clearly and obviously activate right at the end. That could be a point where he physically left Aberration (or what's left of it) for the colony ship. Supposedly he would have to get to Arat Prime to reach the GenSim and the colony ship, so most likely he used the new obelisk network set up by the fallen Arks to go straight to AP and enter the sim. Or maybe he didn't leave and his main body is still on Aberration and what we're seeing is just an extension of him (in the same way that the Corrupted were an extension of the King Titan.) Either way, I think you're right and that's the exact moment Rockwell moved out of Aberration and onto his next step. I think the implication is that all the humans were teleported to Arat Prime (or some other similar locations, but we only know of one) and sent out to the colony ship (or multiple colony ships?) before Arat Prime was locked down. Arat Prime could even have launched the colony ships. The unconfirmed launch we saw messages about in Extinction could either be referring to a second colony ship that didn't launch, or could even just be that the launch was unconfirmed because AP wasn't sending data out anymore since it locked down.

It'd be cool, but our beast here has a leg. Sure, it could be a sea serpent with legs for the occasional walk but from what we can see (which is not much tbf) it looks more built for running than swimming

lmao "Nice job getting out of that genesis simulation but you cant win that easily. Have fun in this other sim. Don't worry, we've got thousands for you. Good luck, Survivor" But I'm pretty sure we'll just be in the colony ship in part 2. I don't think we'll be at the destination yet. There's no way Rockwell slammed us right back into a pod immediately after escaping, we use the cool new Feddy tek suit to rip and tear that tentacle apart (at the destruction of the FTS, of course) A colony ship alone could easily have enough space and variety to create a full playable map

I dunno about that. When Rockwell got changed, he did it in a way that he remained himself. He didn't corrupt the people around him, he killed them. He didn't really spread corruption at all, in fact. He just used his new power. He's clearly not part of the hivemind of Corruption. He went insane (may or may not have been directly caused by element) but he's still himself. You could call him the 'mind' of a hivemind. If he could do it, why couldn't Helena? Well, whatever happened, I'm curious as to what exactly Helena did to be unfindable by Rockwell and HLN-A. Did she just force herself offline for a moment so we could deal with the whole Rockwell situation? Did she create a giant robot body for her to lock herself inside and control to be unreachable by Rockwell? Maybe she separated herself from the System and into some kind of device that Mei and Diana can carry around

Wouldn't it be funny if Helena decided the best way to combat Rockwell was to become like him (have an element-made physical form while still being homo deus and connected to the Systems) and caused herself to gain a form similar to Rockwell with every intent of using it to combat Rockwell's corruption with her own form of corruption that she planned on using to help people. Not saying it's what happened, I just had the thought

I haven't thought about that... I doubt that the thing we see in the sky of the ocean biome is nothing, so I can see that it could be the colony ship. Do you have any reasons other than it being a giant flying thing in the sky? Not that that's a bad reason considering it's the only flying thing in the sky, but it's not exactly conclusive either. Although... It's only visible in the ocean biome. If it's the colony ship and they wanted to represent it in the simulation, why not put it on every sky? Why only the ocean biome specifically? Maybe an ocean planet is its destination? I always figured that that ship over the ocean biome that we're talking about was a visual representation of the Master AI of the biome (Moeder) which is why the other biomes didn't have it. Unrelated, but I think it's important. There was some talk earlier about whether the colony ship was heading away from (colonization) or towards (repopulation) Earth. I think it's heading away from Earth. The reasons why are that there were already Arks for repopulation. If the Arks failed at repopulation, it may be a safer bet to try to colonize somewhere else until a better method of removing corruption (or whatever causes the Arks to fail) is found that can save Earth, since the Arks were the best method of saving Earth at the time, as that was literally their purpose. The colony ship was therefore most likely not working as a long-distance Ark, but had an entirely different planet (or moon, or whatever celestial body they had in mind.) Or maybe it was never supposed to land and instead function as a safe research base of sorts. So much for safe though. And while we're on the topic... The unconfirmed launch at Arat Prime... Seems to be just that. Merely unconfirmed. Because no one stayed behind to confirm it to the Sanctuary, and there was no one in the Sanctuary that would be able to see the confirmation. I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that the colony ship is the launch being talked about in reference to Arat Prime, seeing as the only way to access the GenSim, which everyone on the colony ship was in, is at Arat Prime. Not to mention, due to the lockdown at AP, it might not have been possible to confirm a launch to the outside world. In other words... False alarm. Everything's fine at Arat Prime. More or less.

>Just """beat""" Rockwell in the big fun Genesis Simulation.| >"Oh boy time to finally see what makes this cutscene so strange!" >... >"Huh"

I don't want exact answers, just to know if I'm hot or cold so I don't go crazy down a theory path that's just wrong. Maybe if I'm completely right or completely wrong you should say something though Oh, I had forgot about that for a moment. She might just not remember the real world. Current revision:

Ahh, I wasn't very confident in that idea either.

I guess that's what happens when I don't even have half of the notes

I think they use a shorter version because people want to get into the game when they get in the server, not spend a minute watching a trailer that they've already seen. As for how the new mechanics are... I'll hold off on having an opinion on those until a week or two has passed. Until I saw the ini line to enable building in mission zones, I was pretty disheartened about the map, so I can only imagine what else I might just not know about yet. Yea, that's basically what I think. Fractals are all the minions of whoever the final boss of Genesis is

After someone reacting to my post summoned me back here... You can mark something as a spoiler by clicking on one of the buttons above the text box when you're making a reply. It looks like a faded out eye. When you click that, it'll create a spoiler box, which looks like a quote box, but is closed by default. Example: I was gonna leave until someone summoned me because I thought this thread would fill up quickly since this thread is spoiler-y by its very nature, but if you're just gonna spoiler everything then whatever. Since I'm already here, I've popped a bunch of the glitches, and here are my thoughts so far (potential spoiler) Don't tell me where I'm wrong, but for those of you who have seen the ending, I wouldn't mind being told if I'm hot or cold on what happened

I'm playing Gen, as in right now. You can't unlock engrams from other maps here.

And with that, I'm gonna duck out of this thread for a while instead of watch because I do not want spoilers Cya on the flip-side

Just woke up, can't wait to play! I hope it downloaded properly while I slept! And oh boy, Rockwell... What happened to you? Just a head? Or is the rest of you under that thing? Having not looked at the map since it released, or even the trailer yet, my final guess is that Rockwell connected to the GenSim in some manner, and is the cause of the corrupted avatars inside there. I'm unsure as to whether this is part of his plan for godhood or if he's just doing it do get in our way because he hates us, but I can see the argument for this helping him for both of those reasons. It didn't update while I left it... Ahh well. The trailer is cool though. There were giant dodos. Interesting how Rockwell took the avatar face, but that was the same face we see in the teleport bubble in the theme, so it's safe to say that Rockwell is, in fact, controlling the Fractals.

Thoughts? My stream of conciousness is just "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" and has been for a while now. Thinking isn't going to get us anywhere