CosmicSkeleton

In my experience people tame voidwyrms in PvE primarily for the prestige much like some people do with other hard/expensive tames or in the case of unofficial privately owned clusters the server owner for whatever reason chooses not to include the three wyvern native maps. They're more status pieces that look cool but can still fight/gather meat if you're low on options.

Archaeopteryx.

You're focusing way too much on special abilities and not on the creatures themselves. Amargasaurus will likely be a good berry gatherer and predator combatant, dinopithecus is practically an all terrain mount that will also likely be another rock solid meat and berry gatherer alongside the likes of dire bears and megatherium. Demanding that they just flat out make carchara because you want another generic meat gatherer and assume it'd just win anyway cheapens the vote even if you do suggest the vote stay. As far as your complaints about PvE viability do keep in mind that practically every PvP Dino can find a use in PvE, however not every PvE geared dino can find a use in PvP. You're more or less getting upset that dinos that would likely do the exact same things you almost certainly use most of your current tames to do.

Assuming you're on console, it'd be an uphill battle considering how anti-mod the devices themselves tend to be. If the goal were to make the mods official DLC like Val and crystal then there's the other issue of possibly removing incentive to purchase ark 2 by way of bringing more content to the predecessor. Lastly there's of course the issue of some of the mods introducing licenses creatures such as indominus or Godzilla. WC would have to tread so carefully that from a buisiness standpoint the drawbacks outweigh the rewards by a sizable margin. Plus there's also the inevitable gutting of desired content like when rock drakes and crystal griffins got axed from CI.

They have that rage meter which before it was tweaked forced you to play more carefully with what was otherwise just a living siege engine. Too much damage too quickly and suddenly your own tame was trying to rip you a new one.

B's art seems to look more practical for a dossier. Having the artwork carry on right smack dab in the middle of the book where the spine is always seems off to me.

Dude, whether you know it'll win or not and whether you want a chance or not isn't the issue; if they add it, they get sued into bankruptcy or pay through the nose to universal, if they remodel and rename it then it's no longer the indominus Rex, it'll just be a smaller giga that isn't even guaranteed to have whatever abilities you want it to have. Getting hostile over the fact that this has been pointed out and telling people to shut up isn't gonna help your cause. If anything it's just going to hurt it more. If you really, REALLY want it to that extent I'd suggest playing Ark on PC and just downloading the mod alongside all the other neat mods.

While I'm certain the new vote may have more or less been made to stop the whining from the losing side, we as a community aren't in any way required to look at the new contest and go "Well shucks, I guess I'll just vote carchara now since dinopithecus won, it's only fair". or not give an idea flak. Not everyone may be interested in what's practically giganotosaurus-lite and to expect dinopithecus voters to vote for or otherwise support it rather than the other competitors that they may fancy more is borderline insipid.

Wait are they still going through with that smooth brained decision?

Despite my view on theropods being too prevalent in game I decided after talking about velociraptor to slap together a little dossier, more so because I enjoy writing about this kind of stuff than because I actually intend to compete. Plus every now and again I feel people should consider adding tames that AREN'T just for end game players to try and tackle. If anyone likes the idea enough feel free to use my scribblings for it to add it as a competitor. Just credit whatever I write up please. Velociraptor Vitae (Swift plunderer of life) Diet: Carnivore Preferred food: Mutton/Regular Kibble Temperament: Opportunistic Taming method: Passive* "With its diminutive size, slight build, and feathery body, many survivors of the ark might mistake velociraptor vitae at first glance for its nocturnally predatory kin the troodon. Despite this initial assumption however the behaviors and hunting patterns of these creatures is, if one can pardon the pun, night and day. Whereas troodon favor aggressive night time assaults on hapless survivors and their smaller tames, vitae seem perfectly content to watch from a distance and strike only when doing so appears favorable. Another competitor in the now hotly contested title of smartest non-humanoid creature on the ark, Velociraptor will lie in wait with its pack mates for potential prey to become engaged in a battle for survival with other small predators. Upon the target (or more accurately, targets) showing signs of being wounded, the alpha will announce the attack with a piercing screech before the pack swiftly descends on both parties in a flurry of feathers, fangs, and sickle shaped claws. More frightening is the fact that Velociraptor makes use of a similar tactic as its larger dromeosaur cousin deinonychus, latching on to and viciously mauling prey until blood loss claims it. When a survivor is at their lowest point, it is often these little nightmares that come to finish the job." Domesticated "As the second smallest dromeosaur on the ark Velociraptor is quite obviously impossible to use as a mount. Instead, Velociraptor finds its usage amongst tribes as a tool for asymmetrical warfare. Swift and all too adept at pack hunting, Vitae is commonly used either as a means of harassing survivors and smaller tames in combat or as a surprisingly fearsome guard dog. Some smaller tribes have even been known to pair them alongside dilophosaurs, dimorphodons, and other "harasser" dinosaurs to slow raiding attempts by would be attackers long enough for survivors to take up arms or bring a more powerful creature to end the fight." Taming Method*: Since taming processes seem to be moving more away from the old fashioned tranq and feed of like to keep with the trend and do something a bit different but still relatively familiar. Taming velociraptor involves wounding other creatures around it for it to feed on. While obviously you can just shank something near you with a spear and let nature take its course your best bet at doing this would simply be to knock something out nearby, preferably with a club or bow to get in some good damage with the torpor so the process doesn't drag on. Dodos and other small dinos will do just fine to fill the taming meter and like troodon its effectiveness won't go dropping unless of course it gets hurt. Since it's almost never alone you'd do well to kill pack mates first. Potential abilities/perks: -Deinonychus style latch and bleed attack on anything up to either human or gigantopithecus size -Pack buff -Warning call (really just the alpha signaling the pack to attack but it'd be a great raid alarm. Will require more than one velociraptor since it's an alpha specific ability) -Armor (it's likely gonna be kinda squishy to make up for that early game ease of taming so this is a nice balance) Utility: -Harasser -Warning signal -Pet Dangers: Velociraptor despite not being initially aggressive or too powerful will almost never spawn alone and will eagerly go after a reckless player if they don't play smart. Beach bobbing and suddenly get into a scrap with dilos? Raptor pack. Running for your life from a Rex or an angry theri and you fall off a high point and injure yourself? Raptor pack. Try to knock out any small creature without responsibly genociding every predator nearby? Boy you better believe that's a raptor pack coming to ruin that efficiency. This will be as much a "kick you while you're down" dinosaur as it is an interesting addition to your collection.

Oh trust me if it's just useless tek structures it disables then I'll eat my words while I and everyone who voted for it proceed to lose our collective minds in a rage. I'd say wildcard wouldn't be foolish enough to do that but...wildcard...

Alas I am indeed on ps4. Shadowmanes and the noglin/tape strat are fair points, however I still believe that my point holds weight. Metas are shifting things after all. A buff here, a nerf there, a patch that barely fixes an issue/breaks something else like five months after the issue was even brought up (as is the wildcard way, lol) and suddenly everything's different. We have to gauge the viability of the creature in game before we presume to call it a PvE creature.

I play both, I've just always preferred unconventional approaches to fighting because it's more satisfying when it works and it forces me to think beyond "mount mana/giga and blast/bite enemy into submission". Again, you don't just bring the ape in and expect a victory, you pair it with other tames to maximize its utility

Armor might work, perhaps something like the hyenadon meat pack but feared for defense rather than meat carry. Were it implemented into the game perhaps they could give it a similar mechanic to deinonychus where it can latch onto and bleed creatures, albeit smaller ones with humans or giganopithecus being their largest latchable targets. We've yet to see a small creature that can induce bleed and they'd probably be at least half decent for low level tribe disputes or guarding vaults when paired other dinos that are geared more towards harassing or otherwise slowing raiders. Lord only knows that if you packed a bunch of them in a room alongside some troodon and dilos with a few vaults filled with useless loot it'd be a magnificent way to get your would be raiders to waste time, energy and resources.

I would argue it'd be superfluous but then again I also kind of want to see velociraptor get added in despite its niche being filled by troodon and it being just as superfluous as the only nonridable dromeosaur so I can't really say I have room to talk.

Your choice man, just don't be surprised if the idea gets vetoed even if it gains traction. As an aside I'm almost certain that carchara will still take the win since this vote is pretty much just being done to soothe the hurt feelings of its voters from their previous loss.

It's only a PvE dino if you lack the experience or cleverness to actually plan beyond "throw big dinos, manas, and soakers at a base until we break in". Synergize, plan, make use of multiple abilities. Wars of attrition are only beneficial if you have the raw resources and opportunities to waste to recoup any losses quickly. Seriously these things could be pretty devestating if paired with tek breakers like arthropleura provided their ability works on tek as a whole. Even with aerial combatants if you have a tanky enough flier you could just scoop people in tek to haul them over to a dinopithecus to be pelted with poop and dropped into a waiting horde of tames, preferably those that can grapple players to maximize the amount of time you can really lay into them.

Additionally, with this map's primary focus on returning to primitive roots and using real prehistoric creatures throwing in a patchwork Frankenstein dino like the indominus kinda ignores the entire goal of the map.

A sponsored mod isn't the same thing as adding something to the mainline game proper. A mod can be disavowed by the parent company if legal issues come down the pipe even if sponsored. Just let it go man, it's not going to be added unless wildcard gets an official go ahead from Universal pictures.

That's a bit dated. As a group theropoda consisted of organisms with a wide range of diets from hyper carnivorous to herbivorous.

Being a carnivore isn't a requirement to be a theropod, only that they have the correct anatomical structure, I.e. things like hollow leg bones, digit count, and hip structuring. After all despite appearances therizinosaurs are actually quite closely related to tyrannosaurs. Not without entirely getting rid of the design that makes it the indominus. It's an intellectual property in name and design. The legal risks just don't make it worth the minuscule reward.

Out of 174 creatures that's really not as much as you make it out to be. Also I think it's a little closer to about 27 including humans if you cut out the fantasy creatures like roll rats, maewings, etc. That's not really the issue here though: Of the dinosaurs in ark most of them came from clade theropoda. Think about it: Rex, raptor, giga, allo, carno, megalo, deinonychus, dilo, theri, oviraptor, troodon, spino, bary, compy, micro, archae, galli, yuty. In the non theropod dinosaur camp we have brontos, diplos, titanos, trikes, pachys, paras, stegos, kentros, iguanodon, tapes, pachyrhinos, pegos, ankylo and now amarga. I'm not including the prehistoric fliers as they weren't part of dinosauria and instead belonged to pterosauria and, in the case of argies, aves. Using whataboutism for mammals won't detract from the argument that there's flat out more theropods than any other dinosaur in the game.

Wildcard literally can't add indominus unless they're willing to pay Universal Pictures for the rights to use their intellectual property. They almost certainly don't have the money to use its likeness and would be sued into bankruptcy if they tried it without permission. Also this map is supposed to be all about real prehistoric creatures this time.

People voted for the mesopithecus on steroids because they assumed it could wield guns, thought it was a refreshing change of pace, or really didn't want another generic theropod taking up what was assumed at the time to be the only dino slot we had a choice in picking. The parasites weren't revealed until after it won and had its abilities tweaked.

WC would never be able to include any Jurassic park creature without being willing to pay some serious royalties to people that can outright buy wildcard on a slow day.