DinoFan

In ASE, XBox players could play on a dedicated PC server. I know this was not allowed when ASA was started. So, I have yet to play ASA. I moved to ASE SP until my game deleted my entire save. I would consider playing again, but only if on ASA and the server is on my own PC server where I could back things up. No, I have no intrest in the crazy prices Nitrado wants. I have been Ark free for over two months now. But, I saw the recent news that ASA is coming to game pass. I'm hoping the Nitrado exclusivity was for a limited period.

Yes. You can setup your own ASE server on your own PC (rather than rent from Nitrado or some other company). I intended to indicate that in my initial reply. It probably was obscured by my rambling. I just am not motivated to do it. ASA might be enough to get me to do it. But, we can't on ASA.

When did this change? The wiki still says it is not possible: https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup From the Survival Ascended restrictions section near the top of that page: "It is not possible to self-host a cross-platform dedicated server or a server for a platform other than Steam."

If on a console, you can run that world as non-dedicated instead and invite people in. I played that way initially with my son who was on a PC. I could only get him in if I left it public (even though I invite him). So beware of random people joining. You may want to restrict transferring in characters and dinos. Early on, I was in my game and suddenly got killed by a level 100+ person. Learned my lesson.

A similar thing happened to me recently. See my post from last Saturday: From what I've read, there is nothing that can be done to recover your world. Console versions of Ark don't provide any way to roll back to a previous save. Please reply back here or in my thread if you find a solution. If you don't find a solution and really want to get back what you lost, you can give it back to yourself via admin commands. Before official servers shut down, I wrote down all my breeder dinos' stats and took pictures of blueprints. I then started a local world and recreated everything. The base rebuilding is tedious, as is entering dino spawn commands. But it is possible to get stuff back - if you know what you had. I just can't bring myself to do it knowing it could get erased again. I would set up a PC server, but don't know if I care enough to invest that time at this point. I've been Ark-free for 4 days. ASA is a no-go for me for this very reason. Official PVE appears over crowded. You can't set up a PC server and play ASA on an XBox like you can ASE. Sadly, I will probably stay Ark free.

I also noticed the crashing increased after ASA came out. When the official servers went offline, I used admin commands to give me everything back in my local Fjordur. Not only does the game crash frequently without any pattern, it crashes more often than not when trying to exit. That is why I have gotten into the habit of doing "admincheat saveworld" every few minutes and always before exiting. However, (see my recent post on this) I recently was in a hurry and did the saveworld cheat and (I think) killed the game too quickly. Now my save is gone entirely. If I try to play Fjordur, the save icon is not next to it. A new Fjordur day 1 is launched. What a broken piece of ****. I'd probably switch to ASA and use admin commands to get all my stuff back again, but the developer/publisher decided to make ASA a money grab. You cannot start an ASA server on a PC and play it with an XBOX. Local servers only allow pc players. XBOX/PS players have to get bent over by Nitrado. Pigs will fly before I pay Nitrado the crazy amount they are asking. I think I'm just done with Ark. Hopefully a competent studio will make a similar game.

I've since noticed that on the spawn location screen it says the world is day 1. So it seems to have lost the world but not my character.

I've been playing this Fjordur world on my Xbox since official shut down. I always load as non-dedi, even though it is just me - to avoid any SP nerfs. The game crashes every so often, so I always "admincheat save world" frequently and before exiting. I was in a hurry earlier today and did the save command and turned off the game very quickly after, like possibly before the save completed. I got back into Ark this evening. Fjordur doesnt have a save (diskette) icon next to it. If I load it, the game asks me to spawn but doesn't offer my bed locations. I think my save is gone or bad. Is there any way to fix this?

I just realized that TaM (the Taming Multiplicative) of 17.6% times the wiki's wild per-level increase of 1.5 equals 1.764. So, I guess that is how TaM is used. But, I have no idea how the Ta (Taming Additive) of 7% results in the initial 25.8% increase for a wild with melee lvl 0. Maybe that Ta value on the wiki is just wrong for deino.

Thank you for the reply! I had occurred to me yesterday that I should spawn some dinos of various melee levels and observe their melee stat values. I used SpawnExactDino and left all other stats at 0 and set melee to the desired level. The overall dino level is then that plus one. I left imprint quality at 0. You have to cryo and un-cryo after spawn to see real stat values. I then added a saddle and hit a training dummy. Here is what I observed: M Lvl M Stat Damage 0 125.8% 37.750 31 308.1% 92.434 55 449.2% 134.760 100 713.8% 214.140 Those damage values are indeed the respective melee stat multiplied by a base damage of 30. The stat value difference between 100 and 0 is indeed 5.88% per level as you stated above. 5.88% of 30 is a wild level addition of 1.764 damage, NOT 1.5 as the wiki states. So, that is a big part of why my calculation was off. Using that value, my calculation says a 55 melee deino would have 423.4% melee. That is 25.8% short, which is exactly the extra starting melee of the deino, something I was unaware of. Anyway, thanks again!

I have not bought ASA yet and am still playing ASE. But, I have seen prior threads on your issue and read many XBOX reviews stating your issue. The only remedy I have read is to run the admin command "admincheat destroywilddinos" prior to "admincheat saveworld" to force the save. Someone actually playing SP ASA can correct me.

My original post was quite long. So, I perhaps muddied the waters. But, to clarify... This is not an issue of hatched baby having temporary incorrect stats. I have raised them to maturity and they still have the same stats. This is true for official and SP. Dododex does NOT have correct melee for raised dinos. I know the levels, as stated in my earlier post. They are easy to see in incubator when hatching the eggs. Current deino melee stat is 55 and the resulting melee value is 449.2% without imprinting. I'm trying to figure out the formula used to go from level -> value for each stat so that I can pick a higher stat level and see the resulting stat value. But, I can't figure out the formula. Does anyone know the formula that makes 55 melee level result in 449.2% melee for deino which has base melee of 30 damage?

I'm trying to mutate deinonychus to improve health and melee. I want to calculate what health and melee stat values will be for a freshly hatched baby with selected stat levels. So, no imprinting or levels applied after growing up. Right now, my mutated male has a health level of 41. I thought the equation was simply base + (level * increase-per-wild-level). That seems to work fine for health, as that is 200 + (41 * 40) = 1840, which is exactly how much health mine have upon hatching. However, melee doesn't fit this simple equation. My male has melee at level 55. According to the Ark wiki, the base melee is 30 with an increase-per-wild-level of 1.5. That would make the melee amount 30 + (55 * 1.5) = 112.5, which is 375% of the base value of 30. Yet, my baby deino shows melee is 449.2%, again just hatched and without imprinting. I tried to look this up on the Ark wiki. It claims the formula for dino stats is: V = (B × (1 + Lw × Iw × IwM) × TBHM × (1 + IB × 0.2 × IBM) + Ta × TaM) × (1 + TE × Tm × TmM) × (1 + Ld × Id × IdM) But... The wiki says IwM is always 1 on official servers. My dinos are ones I re-created based on ones I had on an official server. TBHM is for health only, and is generally 1 for most dinos. IB is the imprinting bonus. Since I am not imprinting, that is 0. I'm not taming a wild dino. So, I'm guessing TE (taming efficiency) is 0. Since, I am not adding any levels after adult-hood, Ld=0. The above values substituted in make the equation: V = (B × (1 + Lw × Iw × 1) × 1 × (1 + 0) + Ta × TaM) × (1 + 0) × (1 + 0) Or: V = (B × (1 + Lw × Iw ) + Ta × TaM) The wiki states that Ta is the Taming Bonus Additive, which is 7% for deino melee. The wiki says TaM is the Taming Bonus Multiplicative and is 17.6% for deino melee. But, the way those parens are located, the "Ta x TaM" product is not then multiplied to anything. That tiny value is added to the first part. That adds a very tiny amount that is rounded off. Is there a typo in the wiki's formula? Also, the first part of the formula is doing B x (1 + Lw x Iw) which expands to B + (B x Lw x Iw) whereas I was doing B + (Lw x Iw). I'm not multiplying the amount gained from levels by the base. The wiki formula produces a value of 2505 which would be 8350% melee and obviously not right. Dododex starts with a base of 100 melee and adds 5 every level you put in it. If you put in a melee level of 55, Dododex gives 375, which oddly matches my formula. I notice that what my baby actually has in the game is 20% more than my formula (and Dododex) calculates. It must be that I am not using Ta and TaM values, as they are for something. Please help or point me to an app or online calculator that can do this!

I assume you meant to say you just bought the game. Are you really talking about Ark Survival Evolved, which is the game for this forum? Or, are you talking about Ark Survival Ascended, the remastered version that just released? There is a separate forum for the latter.

Is it possible to host a server on your own PC so that you can play with your XBox? Or is self hosting only for Steam/PC version?