mayhew2070

On 4/28/2022 at 4:09 PM, GrumpyBear said:

 

I've been playing mmo's since city of heroes.  This is not an MMO, it doesn't play like one, and it doesn't save like one.  The reason it's not going away is because they would have to switch the game to a dynamic save system that saves the world in increments in the background.  The players who have been duping , the forked variation of the engine, and the fact this game is now in its end cycle of publishing are enough to say - they will not change the way the game world saves.  The player community actually was asking about this over 2 years ago and the basic answer we got was - this will not be changed.

 

Games use UDP type connections, not TCP.  UDP is a stream of packets where each one flows after the next sequentially.  TCP uses shotgun scatter shot style packets that can arrive at different times and are sent all over redundantly , duplicates are ignored and reorganized after receipt.   UDP have to show up in order or else you lose connection.  IF packets up and stop for some reason, the host waits a period of time for the next one to arrive, if it never shows up - then the connection is terminated.  This is what is happening to you.  Why the packets stop showing up - is probably impossible figure out if it's not your modem or router causing the problem.

 

LIke i said before, and it still stands, either your router, your modem, your isp , or any one of the 30 computers your connection goes through to the game server is causing you a nightmare.  It could very well be a router of the server host, but it's not the server itself that's causing your connection to drop.  What is happening is the server thinks your connection is still valid because there was no handshake between your client and the server signing you out, and it appears to be that the hardcoded timeframe for the server to assume the connection is dead is 10 minutes.  I would think that's too long, but its entirely  possible there's a good reason for the time taken. 

 

Is AT&T your ISP?  I had problems with this game and other things I did on the internet when I had them as my ISP.   I'm lucky that there's at least 1 other ISP in town and the connection problems I had , just like this one , went away after I got rid of AT&T. 

I highly doubt it is me being on 1000mbps cable internet using a NETGEAR Nighthawk Cable Modem WiFi Router Combo (C7800)....

I also play Conan Exiles which behaves the same way, except for that stupid 15 minute save lag bs. This is an issue that has been going on since 2015 that I looked up. It isn't me. It's the way the saves are set up. One user suggested that it was the way the clients are set up. Still an "Ark problem". Not a "me problem" that I could help.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/535152511342481016/

On 4/25/2022 at 11:20 AM, GrumpyBear said:

WHen you are kicked but the game sees you as still online means your connection to the server was severed from inbetween you and the server, the server is still up and thinks you are still in game.  It takes that extra time for the connection to timeout and it then shuts down the connection.   That particular problem is actually quite rare.  If its happening repeatedly, there's probably something wrong with hardware your connection is going through, not your pc or the server.

 

World saves are extremely annoying, but will never go away.  20-25 seconds is actually quite quick compared with some servers.  Depending on how many things the server has to go through on a save, it can reach over a minute on well populated and built up servers.   This is the moment manas get eaten by the game quite often.  If you want to avoid a huge impact from this, set up a timer on your phone so you can be ready for the save before it happens.  This is the only solution, the pause to the server on save will not be "fixed".  They will not change the way the game saves at this point.

Quite quick?

Why won't they go away? 😏
1-2 seconds is enough for a death, and a dc to boot is enough to lose epics, and inventory.

No I assure you whilst having played on many other MMOS I know for a fact it isn't me. I don't dc without it being a server/client problem. Never have ever since I switched to 1000Mbps cable internet.  I know how to configure my rig, and blame shifting isn't getting us anywhere. The people who are paid to look at this kind of stuff need to be looking at it. "Oh you can always go solo mode, and not have that problem". This kind of thinking doesn't fix the problem. I like to play on Official anything, because I live in the country. I don't have a lot of friends, and like to meet new people. Can't do that on solo mode. And, the maps get boring if there is no agenda. No matter how great I like the dinos, aesthetics, and game-play. I have said my peace.

I have been playing for about 3 days. I have tried about 4 different official pve servers, and every one of them have this problem. I am about done trying to even multiplayer. I reside on 87, currently. I just lagged out so bad on one of those server saves that my account is frozen for at least 10 minutes, because it says I am in the game, and I am not. Usually, however, I lag on the world save for about 15-30 seconds. Still even 20 seconds is a game killer. I have been killed, rubber-banded to death ever since I tried to meet new people on this game. I am about done, and may just fly solo. If there was a unofficial that was close to vanilla I might join that, but imo games are supposed to bring you joy. Not this nonsense. I don't lag on any other game, but this. Mainly, because I know how to tweak a pc on my end. This is a server/client problem, and should of been fixed back when it was first announced back in 2015 on a forum I read. 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/535152511342481016/ is the forum that dates back to 2015. This is crazy.

My specs:
5950x AMD Processor

64gigabytes of gskills memory

2070 EVGA Black GfX 

2TB Samsung evo m.2 hard drive