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19 hours ago, Dinobros2000 said:

Rewatching the A2 trailer 50 times.. realizing we should have know it’s ark based on so many factors before the implants. First of all it’s an ark artistic style. Even if the orcs threw us off. I also noticed lots of similar/the same plant tree rock and stone nodes. Various sounds were reused and some animation concepts(Axe twirling). Not that any of that is important. Anyway, theories time. Somehow we still have a sort of respawn system, and somehow we stop growing old, and the reason the dinos are so different is they’ve been around so long they have evolved through natural selection. Combined with aliens this would likely speed up this process due to the Alternate environment. This would also mean mythical dinos(Camo Flower leaf lizards) would not be engineered, but naturally evolved, providing WC with a way to add more unique critters. 

Yea when it first started I got interested and thought 'this could be it,' especially when we saw the flower-camo-thing, but when the orcs showed up I figured it just didn't seem similar enough and started doing something else.
Cue stomping, I start watching again, and a rex shows up. I wasn't sure what exactly I was watching, but I was definitely interested by that point.

I'm gonna guess that the respawn system we have there is reuse of what's left of the Colony Ship's systems.

I was looking over some things and noticed this in Diana's Aberration note #4

This note is where Diana discovers that she's working with Santiago and how he's a big deal, and the implication is that Santiago is also behind the creation of this.

A 'Sentient malware application' named 'Nuke Death.' It could be nothing, just a joke, but a 'sentient malware' that runs with element sounds a lot like Corruption...

20 hours ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

Something that really catches my attention in this note is simply the fact that it exists - I mean, it's not like this note tells us anything that we didn't already know going into Extinction, so why include it, especially in the Gen 2 chronicles of all places? Maybe the point isn't to tell us something new about Aberration or the ARKs, but to reintroduce Santiago to the story? I mean, Santiago is a major character in Extinction - where the next set of Gen 2 chronicles will be - as well as ARK II, so at least then it would make some sense if they wanted to expand upon his character and story going forward, by, I dunno, putting other notes similar to this one in the other maps?. But still, why include that in the Gen 2 chronicles of all places, unless...

...unless he has some significance in the story of Gen 2? I mean, we see in the ARK II trailer that Santiago likely came from one of those incubation pods that we've only ever seen on the colony ship, and that he's clearly familiar with the GenSim, which we've also only ever seen accessed from the colony ship. Yes, I think that's it - they want to tease Gen 2 and especially ARK II by reintroducing Santiago to the story, both on Aberration and possibly the other maps.

I wanted to make this post myself, but you did it first.

I agree wholeheartedly, this is just teasing Santiago's return in Gen2, and I fully expect to see more notes from him in the future chronicles.

1 hour ago, Dinobros2000 said:

Also I have a theory, the fish Lion will be good at swimming, and unless there is a major water biome, then what’s the point of good swimming, therefore, OCEAN BIOME also there is a space sea creature, and based on the looks of the original shadowmane poster, it looked vary oceaniy, granted that coulda been Rockwell’s garden, but..

Dunno about your thoughts on how well it swims, that's gonna be a 'let's see' for me, but as for water, there's plenty of water we can see at the bottom of the trench, which by my guess, is pretty big. Not to mention, they're giving us the canoe, and specifically said when they revealed it that 'they wouldn't give us the canoe if we weren't going to be able to use it' (or something like that), which heavily implies the existence of a water biome.

1 hour ago, Dinobros2000 said:

Also question, maybe I’m just confused, we have clearly shown that element isn’t corruption, but rather element evolved into corruption, but why. What reason did it have to evolve? Or was it like cancer, the organism reproduced so much from the war, one mutated badly, and was, well corrupted.? Also Why is normal element powerful against corruption?

Something doesn't need a reason to evolve. 'Evolution' is simply the process of natural selection, and that happens all on its own, ahem, naturally. It spread normally already, and once it spread enough, it got a name.
And, for the record, we don't know the origin of Element or Corruption. For all we know, Corruption may be a creature from another planet and element was its method of reproduction. It shot Element into space and some of it ended up here and began to grow. After a certain point, there was enough of it for Corruption to take form here. On the other hand, Element could just be a thing that exists, and Corruption could be a freak occurrence on Earth. We don't know which came first or how it 'evolved', all we can do at this point is guess on that.

As for why normal element is effective against it... Why are normal bombs effective against nuclear bombs? Or bombs from another country? Why are firewalls, one type of program, effective against viruses, another program? It's all about how it's used. Normal element doesn't have any kind of repulsive effect against Corruption, the only time we see anything like that is when the Arks start purging Earth of Corruption, and with it, all Element too. Even this is just one specific occurrence, so I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to ask with that.

1 hour ago, Dinobros2000 said:

And why does melting element make it corrupted? And why did the element call to Rockwell? Is it all corrupted? Or what?

What do you mean melting it made it Corrupted? The only time I can remember anything similar was Rockwell melting down the Element gathered by Santiago's team and removing the impurities, but in this case it was just him melting it down to make it easier to remove those impurities and get a pure, raw Element, instead of the refined stuff that the tribe had in storage.

Why did it call to Rockwell... Still not a bad question. Rockwell is the only person that Element has seemingly called out to like that. Maybe it was something about Rockwell himself, maybe he could just tell by looking at if and the pulses it gave that it truly was an incredible material. Or maybe it is all connected. Element certainly has the ability to connect to other pieces of element over vast distances (see: Corrupted hivemind) so it's not out of the question that every piece of Element is connected to every other piece. Or maybe refined Element has an entirely separate 'network' from Corruption, who knows.

But, if something was calling out to Rockwell, it would have to be because that something recognized Rockwell to be a highly intelligent person and wanted Rockwell on its side, possibly to regroup or help the Corruption on Earth? No one knows right now, maybe he'll talk to us some more in Gen2 or the Chronicles to explain a bit on how that was.

And finally...

1 hour ago, Dinobros2000 said:

Honestly, these forms suck.

It's not that these forums suck, they're well moderated and people (at least in this thread) are fairly polite and don't just call eachother names over disagreements. The reason people see appeal in other platforms such as discord is that forums in general are not a good place for fast-paced discussions, when compared to other options. It's simply easier to have a back-and-forth conversation with someone through messages than it is in forum posts. This is both a good and a bad thing. Forums, as a result of not being terribly well suited to very fast back-and-forths, typically lead to bigger, more thought out answers and responses, which can also be seen publicly and get more decent, thought out posts from anyone else who wants to respond. In addition to this, any questions asked, such as the ones above, can be answered for everyone at once, who can easily review the posts here whenever.

So that's an answer for both groups of, 'why use a different platform' and 'why use the forums at all then'

On 12/26/2020 at 7:04 PM, ArkTheorist123 said:

 

That actually isn't the new tek suit we're getting, if we assume it's the same one we're unlocking slowly through the chronicles. The leggings look a lot different, I'll see if I can't get a screenshot to compare the two pieces we have already, but I know that that video isn't it.

Lot of stuff to go over here...

As someone else noted, we can see two 'small' moon-like objects in the sky and one giant planet object. If I had to guess, I would suggest that we were on a third moon of the big planet.
There's also wreckage from the colony ship, or perhaps just something left behind from it, so I think it's safe to say that this planet/moon is wherever we go to at the end of Genesis 2.

The main character of the teaser was Santiago, and the console he messed with opened up some kind of data purge on Santiago's own data? It's not completely clear what exactly he did, but, as you can tell, everything in there turned off.

Fun note: The rex, ptero, and bronto all made an appearance, so we know they're sticking around, not that anyone expected those not to.

Now, for the orcs, I wanted to check if they had implants, but they all seemed to have their arms covered where an implant would be, except for one where it was too low res to tell, so I'll have to wait until the hi res version comes out to know. If they don't have implants, I think they're probably natives to the planet, but if they do, then I'd say they're definitely Rockwell's minions.
My personal guess right now is that they're natives.
Regardless, they use tools and planned an ambush, so they're obviously intelligent.

2 hours ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

My final ideas on what the reveal could be tomorrow (which conveniently happens to be the day after my birthday):

• Major teaser for GP2.
• Announcement of some major update for ARK; something that is important enough to be mentioned at the Game Awards but is less important than a new expansion.
• Announcement of a new game. The possible ones I've come up with are: 1) A game revolving around the events during and/or after the explorer notes. This could be possible since we've seen WC get more involved with the stories of the explorer and even hire professional actors to voice them. A game like this could also provide some clues as to what happened to Mei and Diana after Extinction. 2) ARK 2. I understand why a lot of people think this is going to be it, but personally...I'm not so sure. Why would WC choose to announce it during this years game awards, as opposed to next years, after the conclusion of ARK 1 has been released? 3) ATLAS 2. 4) A whole new game altogether that we haven't seen before. Who knows what it could be?

I'm still leaning towards a major announcement GP2 or ARK 2. All the talk of the new UE5 engine coming out has me thinking ARK 2 myself, but a major GP2 announcement wouldn't surprise me either.

I don't think it'll be an entirely new game, anyway, I think it'll for sure be ARK related news.

1 minute ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

 

"Ah! I love the smell of a fresh ARK teaser in the middle of the night!"

Also, part of the URL for that top image apparently refers to as "RedRoom_Silhouette_Center_04_LOCKUP_POSTER.jpg", which may give us some clue as to what WC is working on. Most likely a new game for sure.

 

That's the Game Award's picture from their website: https://thegameawards.com/
It isn't something that Wildcard put together for us about their announcement.

I don't think they said anything of substance in that post about TGA, they're just building up hype.

6 hours ago, d1nk said:

Reading this thread is going to make actual gen2 seem worse because of all this what could have been hah

Sure it may have been mostly pulled out of thin air and only loosely based on a picture which may or may not have been picked for any important reason at all, but regardless of the context wouldn't it be real cool?

We have to fight Rockwell back off parts of the ship to gain access codes and reach other parts of the ship and in the end we get control of the security systems and march an army of those auto-meks to purge Rockwell from the ship!

Well now I'm really just thinking up stuff randomly, but the point is, I like my idea, and despite how little reason I have to believe it, I will believe it until it becomes reality.

That aside, I'm sure a lot of people have thought a lot about this, myself included, but I want to bring it up...
Where is the astrodelphis?
None of the biomes we've seen so far really look like a fitting home for it, and we haven't seen it directly anywhere outside of concept art and the 'Your New Ride' teaser.
Running off the name, it would make sense for it to be in space, is it possible that we can actually fly between the rings as well instead of just using the trench?
Perhaps they just fly awfully high?
Do we get to travel around outside the ship at all? Will we see other astrocreatures?
Will we have a mission where we're flying around the ship's hull and break in somewhere? Imagine if we made that hole in the glass in the teaser video

There's a lot of questions left around this one and they didn't really explain much other than it being fast and having laser turrets.

3 hours ago, Fes said:

Perfect, can't wait for troodons to shred me irl ;D
 

i would assume she just did it for the gesture, as a "hhmmm" expression ?

 

Possible, sure, but going years back just for a 'hmmm'?

Granted, they might just have pictures like that sitting around somewhere that she picked and it just happened to be from that trailer

4 hours ago, Fes said:

By the way, what do you guys think about the announcement on the 10th of december ?

There are people saying it's gonna be ark 2, but i honestly doubt it, considering that gen 2, once again the "end" of arks story I'm looking at you, extinction, isn't even out yet.
Not to mention that when wildcard announces stuff like this, it's usually something big, but not this big.
I just feel like it's gonna be something different than a whole new game or more DLC, but still important. Maybe mods on console, free to play or anything like that.
Any other theories ?

They genetically engineered dinosaurs in real life, and with the discovery of element, they're announcing the construction of a new real life Ark game, where they actually put you on a real ark. A step above VR gameplay.

Also, Rockwell escaped from the game and recreated the noglin, and the whole world is currently at risk.

She used a screenshot from the trailer that introduced Island Ascension, it'd be kinda strange to go all the way back to grab that image for no particular reason. Perhaps, the ascension on this map is crazy? But then again, what could warrant ascension being 'beyond anything we've ever done prior.'

Imagine if as you ascended, you gained access to new parts of the map. The map is bigger than any of their other maps so far, it's possible for them to have entire map-sized areas for each of the four ascension levels for Gen2. Each ascension level could have its own boss fight to ascend further, too.
Or maybe as you ascend in the ship, you gain the ability to activate certain parts of the ship? I'm not really sure how this would work in practice, but maybe you could activate environmental hazards or close doors or something.
Either way, neither of those really seems like it'd be the whole announcement.

And, this is assuming it has something to do with ascension at all and I'm not looking too deep into the image picked, but still, it seems strange that to pick out that picture from years ago for no reason.

41 minutes ago, Dinobros2000 said:

This feels dead..

Sometimes there's just nothing new to discuss. If someone thinks up something new or a different take on something old, we'll post about it, but we can't just come up with new, coherent theories every day lol.

Recently, there was an explosion of activity in this thread which started mostly because of the ExtraLife stream, and like d1nk said, I guarantee it'll be active again as soon as something new gets revealed

On 11/17/2020 at 8:11 AM, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

But I do wonder why they're so inconsistent with the voice actors? Kinda ticks me off ngl.

Well, it would seem they decided they could actually afford to hire well known voice actors and thought that they would enhance the game. Ultimately, I don't think it makes much of a difference, and HLN-A had already spoken so much that I had gotten used to her voice as well. I really wouldn't have minded HLN-A's voice actor staying the same.

Although, I've got to say, Rockwell's new voice in the teaser was awfully great.

23 hours ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

A strange thing happened the other day while I was yet again exploring the Ocean Biome with Ned the Noodle (My blerdsterker) and I noticed something peculiar. The nearby planet, visible at nighttime has quite a bit of prominent white on the bottom of it.

-I don't have a picture because it's too big to insert but trust me. It does bear a lighter appearance than that of the one in the Genesis Part II trailer, but it's still potentially it!-

Why is this important? Well, for a while I did have in the back of my head a small (Unshared) theory about how all of the Simulated biomes are either:

1. The same planet in different time periods. Starting at either the Bog or the Ocean. (The Bog is reminiscent of the origin place of human life back on Earth according to HLN-A), then it would transition to Volcanic, then Snow and finally the shattered alien moon. There are a lot of obvious holes, bumps and scratches in this theory, so It's been eliminated.

2. (The unshared theory) Perhaps all of these planets take place in the same solar system? I have recently dwelt over this though a few times because of this planet. Could it be possible that the Arctic biome represents that highly elevated point on that strange planet that the Ocean biome is orbiting? There are definitely holes in this theory too...

It seems reasonable to assume that the planet we see from there is relevant. In the same solar system, or perhaps we were going to tour a series of different planets in different areas, and the five biomes were to simulate the expected conditions of five different planets. We would check out each area one at a time until we find one suitable for us.

In this case, we would be able to assume that the ocean planet that we would check was perhaps actually a moon orbiting another planet, or the planet we see over us is actually a moon of the ocean world, or maybe even it's a pluto situation where both celestial bodies orbit eachother.

It could also, I suppose, just be the planet that we are currently over that we're seeing. It could also just be a moon that they put in the simulation to influence tides.

I don't think we have any details at all about it, and it looks significantly different than the one we saw in the teasers so far, but that could also just be angling, so who knows.

23 hours ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

A very odd thing that I've noticed, is that the "confirmed" Colony Ship from Genesis Part I, doesn't match the Colony Ship from the Genesis Part II trailer. I have a picture of the "new" Colony Ship, but not the other one:

Now, a thing that you should notice right off of the bat is that, yes, they are both circular, but no, they are not the same shape, and the Colony Ship in the Simulation lacks the additional bits to it.

Perhaps the old Colony Ship was just:

1. A way to throw us off

2. A completely different structure, such as the Ship's destination?

3. Yet ANOTHER inconsistency...

What do you guys think?

I've always said that I thought the giant ring in the Ocean biome was a representation of the biome's master controller. It's certainly not part of the ship, we can see that now. But it was also obviously not supposed to be the colony ship itself, and I don't recall it ever being 'confirmed' like that.

I mean, it's not even one piece, how could it be the ship?

1 hour ago, Bigchingus7890 said:

Unrelated to theory

how does everyone like the new tlc, I think the new mammoth is good enough for the broodmother and the ape maybe! I can imagine 2 people playing drums during the boss fights lol

The new mammoth is good enough for the alpha gorilla and beta Lysrix for sure. Stegos have made themselves even more useful than they already were, gathering wood as well as berries and thatch now, while being even more powerful in fights.

The sharks though...

Good luck in the Caverns of Lost Hope lol
I like the change, it's more fun this way, but I'll be damned if fighting through Lost Hope doesn't seem impossible now.

Overall it's a nice TLC, though I wish they would've made the mammoth's collision box a bit smaller, since it's very fat as of right now.

21 minutes ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

-snip-

I currently agree about the direction of the chronicles here, with my only change being that Helena was in the Genesis Simulation for a short period of time -- When she created HLN-A. Memories from this period of time would be particularly relevant as well, and could provide some insight on what's going on.

23 minutes ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

Is Helena supposed to be having these random memory recollections? It was implied in GP1 that HLN-A was designed without the real Helena's memories (or rather, Helena was unable to get those memories to stick with her), so was it just some happy accident that HLN-A finally got those memories to stick after visiting the same places Helena did?

It was said that HLN-A was supposed to wipe all 30 day old memories, but I don't recall anything about Helena being unable to change that.

My guess is that Helena had set the memories to be recovered when HLN-A left the Genesis Simulation and got onto the Colony Ship, as a way of leaving HLN-A with instructions on how to achieve our goals here. She wouldn't have given HLN-A all those memories from the start because of the chance of Rockwell figuring them out.

30 minutes ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

And - as HLN-A literally says at the end of these notes - if HLN-A isn't supposed to be having these random memory recollections...is that supposed to mean something about her? It was strongly implied in GP1 - such as in Tidbit glitch #56 - that HLN-A is simply just a robot/A.I. and nothing more. But with these new notes - where HLN-A literally recalls walking on a beach - it makes she wonder if she's starting to become more human than robot/A.I.

I had distinctly gotten the opposite impression about HLN-A; that she isn't just a robot and is as much of a person as we are and Helena is. There were some notes that implied things along these lines. I recall HLN-A talking about how what makes up a person's personality file is very little memories, and almost entirely their personality. This seemed to me to have been intended to spell out that HLN-A was a person as well, as she still had her personality, which is most of, as she put it, what 'makes you, you.'

But, if I'm wrong and she isn't 100% of the person we are, and in the end is just a normal ai, I don't think that would change from her getting memories, because, again, memories are very little of what makes us, us.

41 minutes ago, ArkTheorist123 said:

And on a final note...is it just me or does HLN-A sound a bit different in these notes? Is that Madeleine Madden voicing her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moC24dDam4g

Did you by chance intend to link a different video?

6 minutes ago, johnm81 said:

Sorry if this has been answered before but is humanity rebuilding earth AND sending out a space ship to reach a new home or did we give up on earth after the arks landed?

Basically, that's not fully explained yet.
We'll likely get more information on the nature of the Ship in the new dlc when it's out.

But, most likely, the ship was sent out when the Arks were first launched, as a backup plan in case the Arks failed. So, we haven't given up on Earth.

1 minute ago, Dinobros2000 said:

No one in the history of the universe will ever code tails to not go through walls. Because doing so is soo much not fun to fix something that’s kinda expected, well that’s not true, but at least WC wolnt. Ark 2! sadly we copied everything, and now our Megaladons spawn on ground too cuz we copied it badly.(this is actually a very easy fix, making them only spawn in water.

Astrolodons, now in an atmosphere near you!

8 minutes ago, Darkholis said:

I suspect the December 10th most likely will be an announcement for Ark 2, since it's been hinted for easily 2+ years now. However, I wouldn't be surprised if yet again they bring up another series of DLCs to further enrich the lore of the game. I mean, Extinction was supposed to be Ark's last DLC and here we are, with Gen 2 around the corner.

Regarding a potential Ark 2, I'm hopping they haven't started developpement pre-UE5 engine or we'll be stuck with the same problems (current game uses an hybrid of UE4.5 mixed with 4.7) and a missed opportunity to support next gen GPUs...

Imagine an ARK where tails don't go flying through walls. Perhaps an Ark where things don't spawn in the walls of caves. Or a world where cave entrances don't look like a void.

Honestly, I'd love to see Ark recreated on a new engine with everything they've learned.

4 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Rockwell did say in the trailer that he can control the Colony Ship's destination very soon. I theorize that we might end up defeating Rockwell before we arrive wherever he is taking us, and the ship will automatically repilot back to its original destination, leading into the final cutscenes? I dunno. There's too much up there to dissect lol. Could you rephrase that in a few short sentences? Sorry.

Premise:

-Helena can not stay in the Genesis Simulation for long

-Rockwell and Helena are very similar, their only difference being that Rockwell has a physical form

Therefore, Rockwell can't stay in the Simulation for long either, which is why he uses a puppet, the Corrupted Master Controller, to control things for him.

The Colony Ship and the Genesis Simulation were created by the same people using the same systems. It's more than likely that neither Rockwell or Helena, or any Homo Deus, can not properly take control of the ship. This is why Rockwell still can't change the destination.

This is why we need HLN-A with us. HLN-A can properly interact with the Genesis Simulation, and therefore also the Colony Ship's systems. This also means that HLN-A is likely the only person capable of doing so at the time. Diana could likely also do it, given that she's been shown to be incredibly capable at piloting all types of vehicles so far, but we don't know what happened with her.

This may be why Rockwell was trying to make a copy of HLN-A in the Simulation, so he could have a RKW-L that could operate the ship for him, or he could plan on using us, or more specifically, HLN-A, to operate the ship for him.

Put even more simply: Rockwell can't control the ship properly due to being what is essentially a Homo Deus with a body. He needs someone else to do it for him, and currently, the only two people capable of that would be HLN-A and Diana.

4 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Probably, but the only respawn system we've seen so far is the in the Genesis Simulation that HLN-A constantly has to peek at and fix.

Well that's the one that Rockwell purposefully messed up and changed.

The life preservation on (half) the ship seems to have been purposefully left alone, on the other hand.

5 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

That's an interesting thought... We don't have enough Genesis Part II info to make theories on that just yet- but that's something I never thought of. Unlikely in my opinion, but not completely. If she can completely control the Colony Ship, we could do amazing things, but that seems a bit overpowered and overwhelming don't you think?

HLN-A is a very similar type of entity compared to homo deus, though she isn't quite as strong as a deus or Rockwell. There also don't seem to be any deus on the ship---------------------------

Hold up, I'm gonna stop that thought there, I had a realization

HLN-A, Genesis I Chronicles, note #15, Extinction

"Once Helena’s friends beamed her into the Genesis simulation, she made me. But then she left. I guess homo deus beings can’t stay in our reality -- or the simulation -- for very long."

Homo Deus can't stay in the Simulation, which is one of the reasons why Helena needed HLN-A to help us along. Rockwell is extremely similar to a homo deus as well, the only difference is that he still has a physical body (or multiple, or something... You get the idea.)
But neither Rockwell or Helena can stay in the Simulation for long. This is why Rockwell uses the master controller instead of just directly taking control -- He can't, just like Helena couldn't follow us.

Let's go a step further: The Colony Ship likely uses the same type of systems that the Simulation used, considering that they were created by the same people. Further, it seems likely that the Feds might develop something to keep the Deus out of their Systems, considering that the Deus were a URE creation. Even if they formed a truce eventually, it would likely remain very difficult for a Deus to access systems that were designed specifically to not be accessible by Deus.

So if the Federation Colony Ship's systems can't be accessed properly by a Homo Deus, then Rockwell likely can't properly access those same systems. That's why he can't control the destination yet. For all his power, he can not directly control the Colony Ship.

I'm gonna need to rethink some of this before I come to any conclusions, but it would explain a few things if he needs someone else to control the ship, like "Our future" and the real importance of HLN-A, who may be the only person left that's capable of controlling the Colony Ship.
Well, Diana could probably do it too. She wasn't included in the 'Helena Walker and Mei Yin-Li... will return" bit though.

1 minute ago, Dinobros2000 said:

Also, didn’t OWW say that the respawn system would deactivate as soon as ReSeed went live? How do we respawn on Gen 2?

The respawn systems of the Arks and on Earth were disabled, but the Colony Ship likely has its own respawn and cloning systems that are independent of the Arks and Earth. After all, it's supposed to carry with it all kinds of life, so it must have the cloning systems needed to create it.

2 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

I don't really get that bit of information... I guess that it's something that we don't really have the clues to solve in the first place. I doubt that what's up there is the answer to this lore-bump.

I was coming up with a possible explanation. Ultimately, it's probably the same as the part 2 chronicles, and they didn't actually take place on the Arks, even though the contents of them are completely correct.

3 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

I guess I was wrong lol, yes she is just a hologram, but I do remember that she has a very deep understanding of the simulation, the tools to edit the simulation (Fixing Glitches), ways to see into the code of the simulation and so on. I just wasn't sure how much she could interact with the outside world outside of scanning things.

Well, the GenSim and the Colony Ship are both connected, it definitely wouldn't surprise me if HLN-A could access the systems of the CS. In fact, that's more or less what I was expecting: HLN-A would be opening doors to missions and maybe at the end piloting the CS for us.

6 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Ah, I do remember that. But how do we explain Helena creating HLN-A within Genesis Part I, then sending us BACK to the other maps in Genesis Chronicles I, only to suddenly pop back up in Genesis with HLN-A welcoming us and telling us about how she doesn't know how we arrived there?

I guess I want to make a point while pointing out something that I've noticed.

1. Helena creates HLN-A in the GenSim

2. HLN-A exits the GenSim and travels with us for a time, possibly to create a bond before our important tasks

3. Helena (not HLN-A) sends us to Genesis and calls HLN-A back to join us. HLN-A isn't really sure what's going on because she isn't pulling the strings here.

4 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Too bad she doesn't have a physical form. She's just a Hologram!

A hologram that serves as the only way between biomes, and sets us free at the end of the Genesis Part I ending... How does that work? How would we traverse between biomes and escape the simulation without her? Did Rockwell really rig the simulation THAT badly?

I want to hold you back on the 'just a hologram' bit.

Her physical form is just a hologram, but she's still a very advanced AI that can connect to the rest of the systems and the Simulation itself as well. That's like calling a homo deus just an hologram because that's all you can ever see of it, even though there's much more to a homo deus than the hologram.

1 minute ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Well, the Genesis Chronicles most likely aren't cannon. I hate to say it, but I doubt that they really happen. I mean, yeah, the info that they give is cannon, but I doubt us going about all of the maps is really cannon- as in Genesis she wonders about a "walkabout in the real world" and you taking her to see the outside world. Either she's an amnesiac, she's fading like Helena or we didn't really go on the ARKs with her. I choose... noncanon events, canon info.

HLN-A actually is an amnesiac. It was mentioned in the ARG before the Genesis teaser first came out I believe. Her memories only last 30 days 'to prevent undesirable neurological affects' or something of the sort.

2 minutes ago, ArkTheoryApprentice said:

Same with Genesis Chronicles II. Do you really think that we were kidnapped at the end of Genesis Part I, and Rockwell spat us back out onto the ARKs to watch as HLN-A have a midlife crisis? I don't think so. I think that yes, when we meet back up in Part II she's going to have Helena's memories, but no, she never went with us onto the ARKs in Genesis Chronicles I or II.

Now there's a point.
Certainly Rockwell didn't send us back to the Island so we could hear HLN-A talk to us. Realistically, HLN-A did not go back there, of course, everything she said is true, but not where she said it.

So I'll actually agree with you here, the Gen 2 Chronicles are certainly filled with canon information, but HLN-A didn't say it on the Island.

I don't see how this changes anything though, was there a point you wanted to make with it or were you just pointing out something you noticed?

I really should've noticed that a long time ago...

9 minutes ago, Dinobros2000 said:

I wonder if we find some super weapon against element? Also would it effect us and dinos? I don’t think they are made of element, but they were made using element? I’m not sure. Also it would probably destroy the ship right?

The dinos aren't made of element, well, the tek ones are. Not to mention that there's element all over the place in this ship. And we aren't made of it either, but we do have an implant, which certainly has element...

Err

Speaking of...

Our implant in the Genesis custcene appears... Unpowered?

And the Feddie tek suit gauntlets don't have an implant slot...

I suppose that the Federation suit wasn't designed with survivors in mind, but this also implies that implants were not common among tek-era humans, or at least not for the Feds, they might've been for those living under the URE.