TinyHippo

Yup, looks like you were right on the spot there.

I notice that there's a planet with a very not-broken moon in the background too. I have no idea if this has any relevance.

I was thinking maybe we can get certain tekgrams with Hexagons. They said we can get tek gear with Hexagons already. We'll see. The hype is real though

I retract my earlier guess about the picture. Those are obviously corrupted avatars warping in. Both sides are clearly focusing on the avatars. Moeder is also watching.

Here's the high quality picutre

Hadn't even noticed myself, but it looks like you're right. Note to self: Don't spawn in the volcanic area. Now that you mention it, they do seem to be turning towards the bubble. I think the glowing is just the light from the teleport though. But that's not all, it looked like they were fighting eachother before the teleporting people appeared. Note how most things are turning, which would imply they were charging eachother before the bubble appeared. Guess: The left and right are people that were already in Genesis that have some sort of beef with eachother, possibly the Feddies and the URE. The people warping in are Survivors. The two groups that were already in Genesis deem truce and shoot at us instead.

https://twitter.com/cudacores?lang=en Cuda cores is popping out a bunch of pictures, take a look.

Ok, after looking at it closer, that tek suit does not look similar to our tek suits at all. Even taking into consideration the low resolution. Legs and shoulders are completely different too. Can't say anything about the helmet because it's not there or the gloves or the gun because of quality. No proof or anything, but perhaps that's lunatek armor. Could also just be a different type of tek suit. Yea, the orb is definitely people teleporting. Probably with Hexagons, since there's no astrocetus with them. Idk about the boat flying to the moon though. I was under the impression we'd just be teleporting there, but it'd be cool if we could fly there too (or maybe the boat can teleport.

Interesting picture, if low quality. https://store.playstation.com/en-au/product/EP0688-CUSA06782_00-ARKGENESISONE000 This is where that person got it from. Interestingly, a group of people seem to be warping in between a battle between two other groups. I wonder what that tall thing in front of the rex is. The tek suit on the right seems to have no jetpack, so maybe we have a new tek suit now too. Cool flying boat at the top right too. Details are too blurry to make out much more tbh

Date: Still set for the 25th Music: Sounding wonderful Optimism: High

Sounds great, as expected!

So it looks like there wasn't any discussion here about this yet, or at least, not any complete discussion, so let's talk about element and its many colors and forms. What we know as a fact that element can exist as: -Solid metal (Aberration boss terminal, tek cave, element we use) -Gas (lunar biome) -Liquid (Aberration, tek cave) -Crystal (Aberration Diana #18 "crystallized element shards") -Whatever the purple glow of Corruption should be called So we know for a fact of the existence of 5 different forms of element. This next part took me a while to get a decent hold on, despite being mildly implied since the Island, I only realized the evidence after Extinction. The different colors of element: -Green -Blue -Red -Purple I don't think it's necessary for me to provide proof for that part, everyone's seen these. Now, ever since the Island, it was implied that there was a sort of hierarchy between red, green, and blue from the boss difficulties and ascension implant colors, but there was never any proof. In Aberration, we have green gems, blue gems, red gems, and purple gems, along with the existence of purple element now. The furthest gems from the core of Aberration are green. If you go closer to the core, you find blue ones. Go further and you'll find red. Keep going and you'll find purple gems which turn red as you gather them. Diana's note #18 tells us that element can exist as a crystal (gem) and we see the color hierarchy we saw on the Island too in the gems. Later, in Extinction, we find blue and red crystallized sap that is functionally the same as the blue and red gems. This makes sense if there's actually blue and red crystallized element there, which would also make sense due to how much element is on Earth at the time. Conclusion: The green, blue, red, and purple gems are all element. To ignore the color hierarchy at this point would just be silly. It's clear that Wildcard has been pushing the whole deal with different types of element a lot (without going into theories, we already have 5 different types,) so we can say with confidence that the different colors of element have their different meanings. The power hierarchy of element goes as so: Green < Blue < Red < Purple This breaks the earlier assumption that purple element = bad and blue element = good. That thought worked well enough going into Extinction, but it wasn't completely correct. The purple element is dangerous because of its high energy levels and radiation in its liquid form; it's also the color used by Corruption (why would Corruption want to use a weaker form of element?) Blue element was only considered to be good because it's the easiest to make use of (which does, still, for all intents and purposes, make it the best color of element for us.) This has some further implications about our good friends: The obelisks. On every Ark (Aberration not included) there is one green, one blue, and one red obelisk. This means that there is one low power, one medium power, and one high power obelisk. What exactly is the purpose of this? I have no hard evidence for anything about this, but I guess it works like a reservoir system, with anything that needs more power being able to pull from the red obelisk if needed, and anything with too much energy could dump into the green obelisk, while the blue obelisk serves as a backup for both (if the red one is getting too drained, they can pull from blue, and if green gets too full, they can dump into blue.) Also, I have a feeling that congealed gas balls are also some sort of element, but I have absolutely no proof or reason to believe this.

Well, ok, I'll give you that I guess. I hadn't compared the tek turret's cost to the other turrets' costs and only noticed that it was the only tek item with electronics, so I thought there was a meaning to that. Well, all I've got now is the fact that element is constantly humming and, when the 'humming' is enough that we can see, it has a rhythm. We also know that one form of element (Corruption) can talk with itself. So there's definitely no smoking gun for the idea that refined element can talk to itself over a distance, but we know that it's possible for at least one form of element to do, and we have rhythmic pulsing from the element. So there's some circumstantial evidence, but nothing that I'd take with me to court... In other words, I don't think there's enough evidence to prove my idea, but it's not disproven either.

"The lasagna, Cedric. Hand it over."

Booo! My dog can make mastercraft lasagna! Ascendant or nothing! I'm saying that the places I mentioned are probably using that energy. So, the element is shooting out energy to be caught and used somewhere else. Like a wireless energy transfer. So the energy isn't being wasted, just moved around. Think about how the tek generator works; you can see the energy radiating out from it, and that energy powers tek buildings around it. That's what I think is going on in the 'heart' areas. You're right except for the fact that most tek gear does not use electronics. Only the turrets and animals make use of traditional electronics, the door, jetpack, and rifle are all built without electronics, so then the duty to perform computations falls to the element. I don't think it's something as simple as they didn't think about this stuff either, because the tek turret does use normal electronics.

@Cedric Important question: What's the quality of the lasagna from the new Tek microwave oven?

They are rather unexplained, so the best we can do is guess. The fact that they pulse with a rhythm (this is possibly the strangest spelt word I've seen in a very long time) gives further reason for me to believe the idea that it has a purpose and isn't just randomly releasing energy. This is just a guess, we have no information on these things really, but I thought they were there to "look" at the cave, and let the System know what's down there. I thought the pulses that you see would kinda just map the cave after they become invisible with every pulse and keep track of everything there. No way to know for sure though, and it's interesting that HLN-A's notes are the same spire thing as the cave things.

My thoughts are basically that if it's been changed to suit the needs of humanity, then why would it waste any energy? It makes sense that the walls at the observation deck and that area at the bottom of Aberration and the end of the tek cave that's made out of element to pulse energy out, because those spots are like hearts of the Arks that're using all that energy that's being passed around. Well, I suppose it might have been just impossible at the time to stop it completely, but impossible all the way until the end of Earth? Unlikely. The biggest and most convincing thing that tells me that element can talk to itself is that element things can function as computer-type stuff. Basically, we know that tek is capable of performing non-mechanical movements that make no sense if it isn't told to do so from some sort of computer-like system (the doors opening, the large amount of small movements made when pulling out a tek gun or saddle, the jetpack activating on command, etc.) These sorts of things require something to be able to communicate. Basic computations require communication because something has to tell something else to happen. If we take the door as an example, it has to work in a certain way. 1) It notices someone nearby (requires communication from implant(?)) 2) Checks if that person is authorized in the door's settings (requires communication from wherever the door stores its settings) 3) If 2 is passed successfully, open the door (requires connecting the other two systems and the door opening system) So we already have three different things which have to communicate with each other for the door alone. Computations can not take place unless data can be transferred. Computers use electricity to do this, element uses whatever you want to call its energy. So we know that element can compute things, and that it's constantly sending out energy. If computations are done by sending electricity today, then it's not a big jump at all to say that the element can transfer that data wirelessly by sending energy into the air instead of just the element that's touching it, in fact, I'd say that it's a bigger leap to say that it can't. The King Titan was an embodiment of the element, so it's not wrong to say that the Corruption was the King Titan and vice versa, in the same way that you could say that you and the rest of your body are the same person, with the king titan serving as the 'soul' or 'brain' of the Corruption. I don't think Rockwell wants to control things affected by element exactly. By the end of Aberration, he became obsessed with 'ascending' and achieving godhood as well as destroying anyone that he thought had wronged him. I think he's really only interested in getting infinite power. This would mean he could control anything, but control is more of a side bonus. Rockwell just wants to become a god with the power of the element. Element dust can't be used as fuel in most tek equipment, this is hardly the same thing. Element dust can't be used in place of normal element because it's doesn't have the energy for it. It's just too small. This isn't even close to the difference between the refined element and the Corruption element or Rockwell's corruption I really need to come up with a catchy name for Rockwells brand of corruption though.

I understand what you mean by it being more like nerve tracks than an internet, and actually agree, but I still don't think you're right. The refined element that we play with is not overflowing with energy, the purple element is. The refined element that we play with is at a 'medium' energy level compared to other element. It makes no sense that it would just give off energy for no reason while it's not powering anything unless it's using that to talk with other element (or anything, for that matter.) We also know that Aberration's purple element is different than Corruption element. The appearance and way that Rockwell's corruption works is just far too different from Earth's Corruption. Rockwell has, mostly, at least, not tried to corrupt other stuff and is just trying to take himself to godhood, which is far different that Corruption on Earth was. HLN-A knows more than the survivors because she can read data that's stored in some digital tek archive of some sort. We know this because of that ar game we did earlier where HLN-A answered Helena's questions. That's how she knew about the magmasaur, and how we know that the bladewasp is new.

I really, really could've sworn that I'd read something years ago about element talking to itself, but I can't seem to find it again in the notes. So I don't have evidence for my original claim that every two pieces can talk to eachother, but we do still know that element can talk to itself, and it's constantly pulsing energy- Oh, that was the reason, right in its description! The element is always described as 'humming with energy,' which doesn't automatically mean communication, but what other purpose could the constant pulsing of energy serve besides communication? Keep in mind that the refined element used in the Arks is just that: Refined. If it was just an inefficient quirk of element itself, it would've been worked out. Conclusion: Since all element is doing the humming thing, all element is communicating. So maybe not every two pieces can see eachother like I had been thinking, but it's likely that any Element on earth could see any other element on Earth via the element internet (elenet?) I also think you should go have a look at the observeation deck again. The metal there (not including the element tube stuff, obviously) also has the jagged look, and ARKs were one of the final creations of tek; they're both some of the most important and most advanced tek things you could find. The only tek things that could be beyond the ARKs would be the homo deus and, if we assume I'm wrong (I'm not) and the GenSim isn't lunatek, the GenSim. So basically, tek has the jagged look all throughout, so even if some of the new stuff we'll see isn't lunatek, it still has an obviously different design pattern.

Helena can't change much in the Arks, sure, but she can connect and look through them just fine. Remember that Helena caused us to start reviving instead of just being replaced. She did it in smallish steps, but it's completely different than her connection, or lack thereof, to the GenSim. Helena has absolutely no information feed from the GenSim aside from HLN-A, as evidenced by how Helena was constantly asking HLN-A for status reports and such. Helena is therefore completely disconnected from the GenSim except for that brief moment at Arat Prime. Contactless communication = wireless, don't mind me spilling my spaghetti when I type. Basically, any two pieces of element are constantly in communication with eachother, similar to how two phones that are connected to the internet are in constant communication with eachother. Corruption is a great example of this, yes. I'm sure that it was mentioned somewhere else in the notes though, although I don't quite have the time to go over them all right now to find it. You're right, Helena (and by extension, the System) seems to have no idea about Rockwell still being alive. I know we discussed it earlier, but I think it had something to do with a (now dead) idea about Rockwell potentially having an impact on the System and Reseed from before we got the Genesis Chronicles III on Extinction.

The full quote is: If it had came from an archive somewhere, then surely HLN-A could find information on them. No one, including HLN-A, knows anything about it besides what they've seen, so it would make sense that the bladewasp is a new creature that came from the GenSim instead of being designed and introduced to the GenSim like the magmasaur was.

Helena was only able to briefly enter the simulation because of Mei and Diana, and she was described, in your very quote, as being unable to stay there in the same way she can't stay in the real world. If Helena and the Genesis Simulation are based around the same systems then they should be able to connect just fine. Element has some form of contactless communication, as we know, which would mean that two things that are based off element should always be able to 'connect' via the tek 'internet' unless they're wildly different systems (corruption vs tek) The implication is then that Helena is a wildly different system than the GenSim. We know that Helena can connect with the Arks and tek, so therefore, tek is wildly different than the GenSim.

You're right, if we use just the word 'doozy' then you would be correct, but ATA forgot to mention that HLN-A specifically said that the GenSim produced the doozy, or in other words, the blade wasp came from the GenSim, and wasn't engineered beforehand like the magmasaur was. Naturally, but I still think she was referring specifically to that one suit. Regardless, I don't think we can rely on Diana and crew for knowledge about tek gear anyway. They described the obelisks as having 'crazy teleportation tech,' and there are a lot of obelisks now, so who knows how far behind they are. Or, in other words, I'm actually supporting your side with this, but whatever. There's still the big issue of why can't Helena access the GenSim if it's also tek. It doesn't really make much sense.

nonononononononononononononononono but what about my lunatek? You can't just easily explain away the issue in a much more simple manner like that! Although that doesn't explain the issue of how Helena can't enter the GenSim. If it was still just tek, then Helena should be able to access it, so we can assume it's not simply tek. Also, I think that Diana was referring specifically to that one set of tek armor they made for her as off-brand, not saying that everything they were making was poor quality.