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    As of now, are you planning on playing/buying ASA?

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    What do I get for buying ASA? 
    I get a (portion = 1 map) of game that I already own. 
    I get fancy graphics. (maybe - if my machine is adequate)
    I get wild baby dinos.
    I get a QOL tame tracker.
    At a price point equivalent to current full game releases I get a buggy early access version.
    I get a bunch of the bugs present in the predecessor ASE that still manifest.
    I get uncertainty about the sustainability of running my own servers. (sure it currently works - but for how long?)
    I get the ability to cross play with other platforms.

    What I don't get buying ASA? 
    Something that goes beyond (from a user perspective - I don't care what the underlying engine is) the scope of what has in the past been a patch release of ASE.
    A new and exciting experience that is waiting to be explored.
    A polished product that is ready for release.

    I don't care about cross play. I don't weigh fancy graphics very highly. I don't need to (again) be an "in the wild" tester for Wild Card - done that for many years now. 

    I do care about novelty and new experience. And this is the killer for me. This is not a new game. I have played the bones of this game since 2016. I do not need to drive those bones with a new bit of paint over them again. And I do care about having control of how and where I can run a server.

    So do I plan to buy ASA?

    Hell NO!

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    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    Posted · Edited by DirkInSA

    Either this is region locked, or I have the wrong App ID, or the change has been rolled back?

    Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...OK
    Waiting for client config...OK
    Waiting for user info...OK
    app_update 2430930
    ERROR! Failed to install app '2430930' (No subscription)
    quit

    ----------EDIT-----------
    OK a 2nd attempt worked? 

    Chill out on the negative reviews on steam

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    9 minutes ago, DeweyDogTV said:

    There are a few things that they seem like they wont fix one of those things being server hosting being only by nitrado

    That right there compared to FREE hosting of private servers is the killer!

    If you have bought the game and can comment on steam (which I ain't been suckered into the money grab - so I can't) PLEASE go post that it is a FAIL 

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    2 minutes ago, Venivdvici said:

    Looking forward to how things resolve.

    Honestly this is the least problematic launch I have seen since the launch of Aberration. The game is actually playable. I can understand with this effectively being an alpha, that server hosting isn't ready right out the gate. Better documentation and clarity on the policy is will need to happen. I am pretty sure the licenses will get cleared up in some way. 

    My community used to have 10,000 members but I closed it after gen 2.... I don't think most clusters will ever hit that though.

    Fair enough on all counts - but for a casual player / hoster, the world ain't looking promising given legal stuff that is out there ..........

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    4 minutes ago, zero064 said:

    I think we're going to have to live with having two Steam accounts and buying the game twice (or four times if you're paying for two kids like I am).

    It's either that or Nitrado. Or skip ASA altogether. Still deciding which route I'll go.

    I think you missing the point? 
    1) you will need to buy a copy of the game FOR EACH MAP that you want to host - in addition to your own "game client": and your kids / mates game client.
    2) It is not proven that even with multiple purchase of the game that it CAN run on a private server in your LAN, or even a private server somewhere in the cloud.

    It looks like the current "release" restricts people to exactly one map at a time - No "Cluster" no more.

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    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    Posted · Edited by DirkInSA

    @darkradeon Did you have to pay full price for a "server" download, or was it reduced from the game price? Or did you get the server download by having a purchase of the game client? And have you tried to run server & client (I assume same steam login) on different machines (this last is rubbish - if the server now also authenticates to Steam - then "multiple login" will kick out)

     

    Nitrado is so expensive now that is has monopolized ASA

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    Posted · Edited by DirkInSA

    5 minutes ago, DeweyDogTV said:

    maybe if enough people say something, they hopefully will do something. Low chances but what other chance. At this point, if you want to play a private server with multiple maps with friends, it might be better to spend 1000$ on computer to run the servers by yourself for you and your friends, and then you would have all the maps and stuff and it wouldnt be monthly. Since we are allowed to host our own servers, this could be the best way. If you used nitrado, paying 30$ a month for all the maps, you would be paying over 360$ a month. In 3 months, the 1000$ computer would have already been payed off and you would be saving money after that point. I went a little of topic here but i feel like nitrado is not the best way to host a server now and i know lots of people agree 

    If you look in the other thread (

    )  Even buying a NASA computer may not avail you - there might be issues running multiple copies of the game on one public IP address, and there ARE issues running multiple copies of the game on one machine!

    Nitrado is so expensive now that is has monopolized ASA

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    1 hour ago, Nashiq said:

    This is just sad.  We've been hosting a server group for years now.  Been through many companies.  Nitrado was by far one of the worst to work with.  We finally found an amazing one a couple years back and have had a 7 map cluster up the entire time, as well as other games.  If they don't allow other server providers a large number of us may stop playing.  

    Stick with what you have - a working ASE cluster for your own pleasure! 

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    Posted · Edited by DirkInSA

    44 minutes ago, Luizza said:

    So, just read this

    https://server.nitrado.net/en-GB/news/ark-survival-ascended-server-hosting-exclusivity-news

    We all know Nitrado bought the rights to commercial servers, but we assumed non-commercial little servers would be able to run. But they are not.

    You need to apply for a free license and for that you need to have a community of at least 10,000 members. That's to host your own NON-COMMERICAL Ark server, even if it's from your own house - rip all those little friendly unofficials which never charge a bean, ever, for using their servers. No kits, no donations, no whitelisting, no subs, no patreon, etc, etc.

    You'd think those large content creators "buy a sub and get access to my servers" could afford to pay the Nitrado fees anyway, but we know why that bar is so high and they are getting it for free - possibly to keep them quiet about all the little guys being pushed out? The I'm alright Jack mentality. 

    Honestly, makes me sick this is so anti new people getting started with a server, and stifling the Ark community.

    Someone please tell me I've read this wrong and people will still be able to set up small clusters on their own systems in their own homes and allow others to join.

    As it seems to be right now - No, private small clusters are no more a viable thing. Sure, possible but at enormous expense compared to how ASE was.

    No one here has yet tried to run 2 instances of the only released map on a LAN (like I ran a cluster of a bunch of different maps). So far it seems given a Windows server, It is not possible to run ASA "twice" on one box (Not even a "Host the game" and a "Play the Game"). So at a minimum one needs to run VM's or separate physical servers for each map instance. What is not yet verified is if that source public IP address of servers has any impact on "multiple copies". In other words can I host two bought copies of ASA on 2 VM's (or even 2 separate physical servers in my LAN) through the same public IP address. And then still be able to play the damned game on MY server(s) on MY public IP address?

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    Just now, darkradeon said:

    linux or windows doesn't matter. the server is bound to your account purchase. that's a backdoor to not allow you to run more than 1 instance.
    you would say: "I buy x copies and I run x VM of steam".. except you are going to post your ip address on the nitrado backdoor and cluster is not gonna work anyway.

    If it now validates against Nitrado rather than steam - then yep thats also a dead duck. With steam, I can run a chroot copy of the game with its own steam login - and I should be good to go. But its academic without a linux version posted somewhere ..........  

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    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    11 minutes ago, darkradeon said:

    1 server per account

    you cannot run multiple steam account in same system even if you but x  copies of asa, it's a steam limitation.

    clusters are just on nitrado.

    they killed unofficial

    dead game in 1 day.

     

    gg snail, gg nitrado.

    So in linux there are ways around this with just one physical server - BUT given the way it is right now, I will bet dollars that a linux version (server or otherwise) simply does not release.

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    Posted · Edited by DirkInSA

    7 minutes ago, CatInFire said:

    They had MONTHS to be ready for this. The launch got delayed from August to October and they still managed to fail. I think it can be understandble why people are frustrated... The level of incompetence of that team is unbelievable.

    Well strictly speaking they did not really fail - they fulfilled the contract that brought them some $ to go on with. But from a wanna be online player perspective sure in life, it is a fail!

    No Longer Able to Run Private ASA Servers... maybe?

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    1 minute ago, mindless2831 said:

    Clearly you know nothing about me to even say that... I have been running a cluster since 2016 in ASE, but I don't see what that has to do with what I said. I'm going to redo the configuration for ASM now that I have the app id's for everything and will report back when I have it working. I think people need to calm down, it hasn't even been out for 24 hours and they had a huge issue with official servers due to people becoming admins. Cut Wildcard a little slack.

    Cool and good luck - without buying a copy of ASA for each map instance (sure and now there is only "The Island"), but PLEASE try and run 2 instances of that map - especially on 1 sever ....... and THEN report back.

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