I also try to avoid this topic as it just a endless argument but, 1st off PvE you all complain that anytime WC changes or nerfs a dino you are usually the first people to jump in here and say that is ruining your experience. So I will take an old nerf for example.....flyer nerf from way back in the day. So the speed cap on flyers how did that ruin your game in a PvE aspect? Cause you can't fly across the island in 2 seconds? Cause your trying to beat someone to a drop or a wild dino to tame? Cause you cant get materials back and forth as quick as you used too? Lets look at it from a PvP p