Megaraptor – your Worst Nightmare

[Billjaywarr]

2 hours ago, TyranntX said:

But the herbivores ARE interesting, just because they aren't a combat oriented submission doesn't mean they aren't. Megaraptor is just, a theropod with long claws... oh yeah SOOOOOOOOO interesting (sarcasm). We have enough carnivores, PERIOD. The fewer submissions we have of them, the better.

Saying herbivores are interesting is completely subjective and it’s YOUR OPINION and this may be a shock to you but other people may feel differently so again you should go and support your creatures because clearly your negative comments aren’t working the way you think they are, hundreds of people WANT this creature and no matter your feelings, you can’t argue with the statistics.

p.s mods exist, herbivore mods to be exact so go and try them and you may connect with them better than any wildcard creature and the game needing more herbivores doesn’t mean every carnivore is bad. Also I guarantee that when this creature wins, you’ll eventually play with it and like it to some extent and I know that’s a crazy thing to say but it’s happened to people with things like the rhiniognatha and even the other way round with the shasta 

[TyranntX]

1 hour ago, Billjaywarr said:

Anything can sound boring when you dumb it down like that and by that logic a trike is a lizard with horns or a stego, one with spikes or pachy, big forehead or iguanodon, weird thumbs. Every complaint you make about carnivores can also be made about herbivores so maybe it’s best to play a game with no dinosaurs or even animals at all because clearly ark cannot fulfill your needs 

Can they,, though? Because each and every one of those herbivores YOU mentioned has purpose OUTSIDE pf sheer combat. Trikes gather thatch and are a good early game harvester for berries, thatch, and wood. Stego, are great for wood harvesting, and have reduced carry weight on berries making them great for harvesting them. Pachy is a good early game stone and flint harvester, and can inflict torpor damage for knocking out smaller tames should you not have the resources to amass tranquilizers. Iguanodon HAS INFININTE STAMINA, decently fast, and is good at harvesting seeds.

 

And what do carnivores do? Fight, fight, fight, and fight... riveting. the only real exception to this are the flyers... for OBVIOUS reasons.

 

1 hour ago, Billjaywarr said:

Saying herbivores are interesting is completely subjective and it’s YOUR OPINION and this may be a shock to you but other people may feel differently so again you should go and support your creatures because clearly your negative comments aren’t working the way you think they are, hundreds of people WANT this creature and no matter your feelings, you can’t argue with the statistics.

p.s mods exist, herbivore mods to be exact so go and try them and you may connect with them better than any wildcard creature and the game needing more herbivores doesn’t mean every carnivore is bad. Also I guarantee that when this creature wins, you’ll eventually play with it and like it to some extent and I know that’s a crazy thing to say but it’s happened to people with things like the rhiniognatha and even the other way round with the shasta 

The same can also be said about carnivores, guy... and surprise surprise, FOUR of them are BECOMING BASE GAME TAMES! don't play the "mods exist" card, not unless you want several new holes for an a$$.

 

Also, no duh people want it, its a theropod.... they want it... because it's a theropod. They think it will change combat by having it, only to get angry when it doesn't and just acts like every other carnivore just with a different attack set. that's the only reason people want this tame. and you are not going to convince me otherwise, because that's exactly why people want it. Also also, no poop i'll be using this creature IF it wins, because it's part of the game, I'm a completionist and want everything, that doesn't mean I LIKE the creature, I still don't like that Carch is in the game. so why would I like yet another carnivore we don't need?

 

 

[Billjaywarr]

1 hour ago, TyranntX said:

Can they,, though? Because each and every one of those herbivores YOU mentioned has purpose OUTSIDE pf sheer combat. Trikes gather thatch and are a good early game harvester for berries, thatch, and wood. Stego, are great for wood harvesting, and have reduced carry weight on berries making them great for harvesting them. Pachy is a good early game stone and flint harvester, and can inflict torpor damage for knocking out smaller tames should you not have the resources to amass tranquilizers. Iguanodon HAS INFININTE STAMINA, decently fast, and is good at harvesting seeds.

 

And what do carnivores do? Fight, fight, fight, and fight... riveting. the only real exception to this are the flyers... for OBVIOUS reasons.

 

The same can also be said about carnivores, guy... and surprise surprise, FOUR of them are BECOMING BASE GAME TAMES! don't play the "mods exist" card, not unless you want several new holes for an a$$.

 

Also, no duh people want it, its a theropod.... they want it... because it's a theropod. They think it will change combat by having it, only to get angry when it doesn't and just acts like every other carnivore just with a different attack set. that's the only reason people want this tame. and you are not going to convince me otherwise, because that's exactly why people want it. Also also, no poop i'll be using this creature IF it wins, because it's part of the game, I'm a completionist and want everything, that doesn't mean I LIKE the creature, I still don't like that Carch is in the game. so why would I like yet another carnivore we don't need?

 

 

If I have an iguanodon or stego then I won’t need any of the others which then makes them ✨useless✨the base game argument doesn’t work as it’s a Valguero exclusive so it’s like hating the shadowmane but spending 99% of your time of ragnarok and like I’ve said numerous times, this is just the submissions stage, fasolasuchus wasn’t the most voted submission and won, pretty sure the dread wasn’t, gigantoraptor wasn’t, yi ling was fairly low, shasta wasn’t and the rhinio definitely wasn’t so the herbivores still definitely have a chance especially the one in second place so 

[TyranntX]

1 hour ago, Billjaywarr said:

If I have an iguanodon or stego then I won’t need any of the others which then makes them ✨useless✨the base game argument doesn’t work as it’s a Valguero exclusive so it’s like hating the shadowmane but spending 99% of your time of ragnarok and like I’ve said numerous times, this is just the submissions stage, fasolasuchus wasn’t the most voted submission and won, pretty sure the dread wasn’t, gigantoraptor wasn’t, yi ling was fairly low, shasta wasn’t and the rhinio definitely wasn’t so the herbivores still definitely have a chance especially the one in second place so 

Going with THAT logic now huh? okay then. Rexes are available on Val, So why would I need a megaraptor if rexes are more powerful... and LESS OF A HEADACHE to tame? Making Megaraptor useless as a combat mount. Yutyrannus is on Val, making megaraptor useless as a scaring tame.  There are plenty of flying tames on val, meaning Megaraptor is useless for navigating the map. Rock Drakes are on Val, so Megaraptor is useless as a climber. And do I even NEED to mention the dienonychus? So it's out classed in combat, its out classed in being a scare tactics tame, it's out classed in THREE mobility categories. What can Megaraptor do, that something else on val doesn't do better? please, elaborate on your double standard as I keep puncting more holes into it.

 

I... Do..... Not.... Care.... If.... this... Is.... The..... submission..... phase....

We have enough carnivores even if this wasn't, we don't need more.

[DILONG]

Megaraptor is already in the top 5

[DILONG]

Since there’s already like 30 comments arguing over whether it should or shouldn’t be in the game or whether or not theropods should be ignored in the votes is something I won’t answer because I will be here until the heat death of the universe. What I am here for are to offer some alternative suggestions to abilities and how it can fit into the meta without aching over it feeling like other creatures. 
 

Abilities revolve around non bleeding blood based abilities, buffs and debuffs to healing, and some food preservation. My original idea was a Nightfeeder/biological Tek Claw/stealth hunter type creature that wasn’t as tanky as other creatures it’s size. A hit and run nightmare with a significant weakness and fear of fire. 

-Blood Thinner: Part of a dual type bite that thins the blood allowing for a 5% increase to bleed damage dealt to the target, Megaraptor itself cannot deal bleed but paired with an Allosaurus or Deinonychus it is exceptionally deadly.

-Blood Clot: The other side of the dual bite, this effect halts all healing and stamina regain effects including Snow Owl/Daeodon healing, self healing like in Baryonyx and Argentavis, and Sweet Veggie Cakes. 

-Blood Frenzy: A status effect that speeds up the attack speed on successful hits, at peak Blood Frenzy the Megaraptor has a blinding attack speed and a speed buff that allows it to chase down faster prey. It will decrease over time similar to the Carcharodontosaurus speed buff but more gradual.

-Hot Blooded: This passive effect makes Megaraptor immune to slowing and freezing effects, this includes Snow Owl healing and Managarmr freeze breathe.

-Cold Blooded: An active ability it can use to hide from turrets and other creatures used in the detectionof enemies like Parasaurs. This ability forces you to crawl across the ground slowly and after exiting this mode it will be slowed for about 10 seconds, attacking in this mode will deal a higher surprise damage. Most dinosaurs will also ignore you in this state.
 

-Fire Fear: A passive debuff in which the Megaraptor takes increased fire damage (50%) and is uncontrollably frightened when lit aflame, like in a Yutyrannus fear roar it will run for cover. 
 

Taming requires you to have a torch in hand and stay near a fire source, this prevents the Megaraptor from immediately aggroing and will stop their aggro within the heat range. To tame stay near the fire source until it approaches slowly, two animations can occur where either you have to feed it Shadow Steak Sauté (or Battle Tartare) or you will have to wave your torch to get it to back off. Rinse and repeat until tamed. 
 

I wanted both a powerful yet not unkillable creature with a unique balance with strong abilities and weaknesses. Really cool to see some of my older ideas pop up in this submission and the art inspired by my original design years ago, the submitter did a fantastic job on this vote submission with all the different art and abilities. 

[Billjaywarr]

10 hours ago, TyranntX said:

Going with THAT logic now huh? okay then. Rexes are available on Val, So why would I need a megaraptor if rexes are more powerful... and LESS OF A HEADACHE to tame? Making Megaraptor useless as a combat mount. Yutyrannus is on Val, making megaraptor useless as a scaring tame.  There are plenty of flying tames on val, meaning Megaraptor is useless for navigating the map. Rock Drakes are on Val, so Megaraptor is useless as a climber. And do I even NEED to mention the dienonychus? So it's out classed in combat, its out classed in being a scare tactics tame, it's out classed in THREE mobility categories. What can Megaraptor do, that something else on val doesn't do better? please, elaborate on your double standard as I keep puncting more holes into it.

 

I... Do..... Not.... Care.... If.... this... Is.... The..... submission..... phase....

We have enough carnivores even if this wasn't, we don't need more.

Rock drakes aren’t on val, flyers make almost every land creature useless and so do tools and weapons. Wood/stone-hatchet, flint/thatch-pick, damage-sword,pike,gun. Submission phase has proven that it’s not reflective of the real vote.

if a herbivore wins, it’s extremely possible for it to do the exact same thing a carnivore is claimed to do, making pre-existing ones useless

[TyranntX]

7 hours ago, Billjaywarr said:

Rock drakes aren’t on val, flyers make almost every land creature useless and so do tools and weapons. Wood/stone-hatchet, flint/thatch-pick, damage-sword,pike,gun. Submission phase has proven that it’s not reflective of the real vote.

if a herbivore wins, it’s extremely possible for it to do the exact same thing a carnivore is claimed to do, making pre-existing ones useless

Regardless, Megaraptor is still out classed by plenty of creatures, so to want it because you want  "a creature that's useful" is like saying "I want to drink lemonade because it's wet." It's a dumb thing to say, and it's only going get you taken less and less seriously.

And AGAIN, I-DON'T-CARE-THAT-THIS-IS-THE-SUBMISSION-PHASE. I don't care that it wont have all or any of the abilities if it ends up winning the vote. The point is, and I'll keep saying it until its permanently drilled into your head, We have enough carnivores and don't need more.

 

Also, whos care if said herbivore does something carnivores do? Deinonychus does what Utahraptors can do and has better abilities, no one bats an eye. Allosaurus can do all the things carno can do and has better abilities, no one bats an eye. Carch is literally a better giga, no one seems to care about that. Hell we literally just got a variant of THE MAEWING and we haven't even gotten Gen part ONE yet, never mind part two, and yet again no one seems upset about it. The point is variety, we have SO MANY carnivores already, and we are getting 4 that are not tied down to any map at minimum, meanwhile we have hardly any herbivores and the only excuse people make is "...But the lore says..."

[RebelKevin94]

So will it do bleed damage from its basic 3 claw swipe attack? Being its claws are really sharp it should right?

[RobertoTurati]

15 minutes ago, RebelKevin94 said:

So will it do bleed damage from its basic 3 claw swipe attack? Being its claws are really sharp it should right?

It won't. The "wounded" status effect caused by the wounding gnash is different from the bleeding caused by Allosaurus and others. It makes the enemy take more damage, and they leave behind a blood trail that megaraptor can see and follow, gaining a speed boost.

[Billjaywarr]

3 hours ago, TyranntX said:

Regardless, Megaraptor is still out classed by plenty of creatures, so to want it because you want  "a creature that's useful" is like saying "I want to drink lemonade because it's wet." It's a dumb thing to say, and it's only going get you taken less and less seriously.

And AGAIN, I-DON'T-CARE-THAT-THIS-IS-THE-SUBMISSION-PHASE. I don't care that it wont have all or any of the abilities if it ends up winning the vote. The point is, and I'll keep saying it until its permanently drilled into your head, We have enough carnivores and don't need more.

 

Also, whos care if said herbivore does something carnivores do? Deinonychus does what Utahraptors can do and has better abilities, no one bats an eye. Allosaurus can do all the things carno can do and has better abilities, no one bats an eye. Carch is literally a better giga, no one seems to care about that. Hell we literally just got a variant of THE MAEWING and we haven't even gotten Gen part ONE yet, never mind part two, and yet again no one seems upset about it. The point is variety, we have SO MANY carnivores already, and we are getting 4 that are not tied down to any map at minimum, meanwhile we have hardly any herbivores and the only excuse people make is "...But the lore says..."

Raptors, carnos, allo, deinonychus, wolves, sabers, yutys, and even rexes are all out classed by other creatures but are still used and preferred by many. 

THIS IS THE SUBMISSION PHASE, HERBIVORES CAN STILL WIN, ITS NOT ABOUt ANYTHING ELSE. Maewings won’t be in the game for 2/3 years so the fact people have access to it, is a good thing in their eyes and there are some people upset about it.

garuga’s brachi is coming and they are going to continue to make more creatures, likely herbivorous ones. The game’s just gotten the dread which is a literal titan killer and even with the small variety of herbivores, they are (for the most part) just as unique and different to the next as carnivores are. Either way they are different species that cannot be compared.

[VLADALV]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:27 PM, RobertoTurati said:

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Greetings, survivors! Let me introduce you to…
Megaraptor – the Murderous Nightmare!

While ARK already provides a large variety of theropod carnivores, none of them are megaraptorids. In my opinion, this might be an opportunity to include a beast capable of giving players a good scare, like the ones we probably all had back in the day - and while we were all naked beach Bobs. 

Now, what if ARK featured a horror-themed dinosaur referencing both the night feeder from Genndy Tartakosvki’s Primal and Lobo/Death from Puss in Boots 2? And what if you could craft a sort of primitive Blades of Chaos from said dinosaur? This submission proposes just that. Its main goal is to enrich and deepen the hunting and fighting experience, with a theropod that can do much more than repeating the same bite or claw attack over and over again. Megaraptor doesn’t aim to solve any of ARK’s issues, nor is it supposed to fulfill any particular quality of life needs of players. It simply aims to offer something cool and fun to use, capable of exciting the playerbase and bringing a breath of fresh air in the survival experience.

Megaraptor will come with never-before-seen mechanics and a unique experience for survivors that no other creature can give you. All this with a one-of-a-kind design.

Before starting, here’s a brief summary of the submission, so as to give you all a general framework of Megaraptor and make sure your upvote is earned. What does this creature offer? 

The full, detailed submission begins here: I kindly invite you all to read the text thoroughly, before deciding whether to upvote this creature or not.

A Q&A section awaits you at the end of the submission to solve any doubt.
You’re going to like it!
Wild

Being a rather versatile and adaptable creature, Megaraptor can be found in every biome. Despite that, it’s a rare spawn. In the wild, while it might look like any other large theropod at a first glance, this terrifying predator has a unique hunting style. In the daytime, Megaraptor hunts by approaching its prey in Ambush Mode, blending in the shadows of the environment. Being incapable of actually turning invisible, it will get easier and easier for the prey to spot it as it gets closer.

However, if you can see Megaraptor, then it’s already too late! Once Megaraptor is close enough, it will pounce on its prey, performing a Jumpscare Lunge. Even if the prey manages to survive the attack, it will suffer from a Yutyrannus-style Fear Status that will cause it an intense psychological episode. This works on any creature, no matter the size (except for Titanosaurus and bosses/titans). Even survivors aren’t safe from this effect: they’ll experience SHOCK, a unique Hallucination Effect haunting their screen with visions of ghostly claws, teeth, and devilish eyes for 10 minutes (though it might as well last 5 minutes or less). To make things even worse, Megaraptor seems to change its behavior during the night, preferring to stalk and haunt its prey before killing them, roaring from the shadows to terrify both creatures and players with the same Hallucination Effect. In case you survive the ambush despite all this, don’t think you’re safe, for Megaraptor is also an excellent tracker. It will follow your trail and stalk you in the dark, waiting for its next chance to attack. You’d better keep your ears open for any rustling bush!

And that’s not all: attacking a Megaraptor is nearly futile, because it will dodge and parry its way through strikes and shots as it approaches you. Nevertheless, survivors have a trick up their sleeve against Megaraptors, as these creatures are remarkably scared of fire, and will stay away from any sources of it. Torches, campfires, and flamethrowers will make this dinosaur run back into the dark. Also, staying next to a source of fire will heal SHOCK’s effect faster: it will pass in 5 minutes, rather than 10 (or half the minutes it would end up lasting, anyway).

  

NB: only wild Megaraptors can parry projectiles.

Taming Process

Taming a Megaraptor is surely a test of skill. Here’s a step-by-step guide:

1. Find and kill a wild Megaraptor.

2. Harvest the Megaraptor Claws from the corpse and use them to craft the Megaraptor Blades.

3. Approach the Megaraptor you want to tame, holding the blades in your hands. Having them equipped will prevent the creature from lunging at you, making it get in a duel stance instead, and it will be ready to fight.

4. Use the secondary attack of the blades to parry the beast’s strikes. This will rapidly drain its stamina.

5. Once Megaraptor gets tired from the fight, feed it with Battle Tartare or Shadow Steak Saute and repeat the process until it’s tamed. Feeding Megaraptor with Raw Mutton or Prime Meat is almost ineffective, while Raw Meat will be refused.

Congratulations! You’ve successfully tamed a Megaraptor!
This stealthy killer has many tricks up its sleeve that will give survivors an edge in trying to survive the ARK.

Actions

• Claw Swipes (, , ) :

  • Click: A three-swipe combo that builds up speed and damage similarly to TEK claws. The speed and damage buildup is shown in a gauge.

  • Hold: Consume the gauge as you perform the Wounding Gnash, a high-damage double swipe & bite attack. This attack deals a Wounded status effect to a target. For 5 minutes, the target will take increased damage from attacks and leave behind a blood trail that is highlighted when riding a Megaraptor. As long as Megaraptor follows this trail, it will receive a movement speed buff. A moderate cooldown prevents players from spamming this ability.

• Hunting Pounce (Hold, , ) :A reticle will appear, allowing Megaraptor to aim. Once aimed at a target, Megaraptor will pounce on it, clinging to large creatures (like Deinonychus does) and pinning down small creatures and fliers (like Thylacoleo does). This attack dismounts players.

• Crouch (C, , ) : Megaraptor starts crawling on all fours, entering Ambush Mode. Megaraptor looks semi-transparent to players as long as it’s distant enough, while being invisible to turrets and hostile creatures. Pouncing on a creature while in Ambush Mode will trigger the Jumpscare Lunge, dealing all the status effects described in Wild to the target. The Jumpscare Lunge will instantly deactivate Ambush Mode, preventing it for a few seconds, and it won’t be usable again for a time. Even though you can rapidly get back in Ambush Mode, you won’t be able to spam the Jumpscare Lunge.

• Jump (Space, , ) :

  • Press: Jump.

  • Hold: When facing a wall, Megaraptor will perform a parkour-like sprint to climb the obstacle.

• Directional Dodge (Double Click W A S D) : Megaraptor can dodge in any direction based on your inputs (forward, backward, sideways, or diagonally), granting it Invincibility Frames (like Fjordhawk). A short cooldown prevents players from spamming this ability.

Passive Abilities

• Agility: Megaraptor can rapidly walk and crawl in all directions and 360° rotate where it stands. Megaraptor can also sprint sideways by helping itself with its forelimbs. Though less efficient than a sprint forward, this movement comes in pretty handy in combat.
   

• Darkness Buff: When it’s nighttime or while spelunking in deep caves, Ambush Mode is constantly active.
  Pressing C,,will make Megaraptor let out a Creepy Roar, dealing the same effects as the Jumpscare Lunge. While this roar can’t be spammed, it will have a shorter cooldown than a Jumpscare Lunge.
   

• Big Game: When fighting large creatures and bosses/titans, Megaraptor gains the ability to heal itself by hitting the target, gaining an amount of health points equal to 50% of the damage points dealt with each blow.
   

• Overkill: A gauge fills up the more creatures a Megaraptor kills. Once the gauge is filled, Megaraptor will enter a psychotic rage where the rider cannot control its movements, during which it runs savagely on all fours, in search of the closest target, be it an ally or an enemy. While it won’t be able to perform special attacks, its Damage, Movement Speed, Rate of Fire, and Damage Resistance are all increased tremendously while raging. This is a high-risk mechanic that may pay off greatly if timed correctly.
   

• ⚠ Fear of Fire ⚠: Megaraptor’s fear of fire is overwhelming even after the taming process. If it gets too close to a source of fire, this creature will be filled with Fear.

Megaraptor Blades

You can use harvested Megaraptor Claws to craft Megaraptor Blades. A Megaraptor Blade is a sickle attached to a chain that survivors can wield to strike either up close or from a distance. Here’s how to use it:

• Primary Attack (, , ) :

  • Click: slashes building up speed and damage similarly to TEK claws. If used on any corpse, it harvests exclusively Prime Meat.

  • Hold: a reticle will appear, allowing the survivor to aim. Once aimed at a target, the survivor will throw the blade at it, with the effect changing depending on the situation:

    • If the target is an environmental element (cliffs, trees, structures, and so on), the survivor will pull the chain to launch themself towards the target.

    • If the target is a large creature (carno-size and bigger), the survivor will pull the chain to launch themself towards the target.

    • If the target is a small creature (para-size and smaller, including other survivors), the survivor will pull the chain to drag the target towards them.

• Secondary Attack (Hold, , ) :the survivor spins the chained blade so fast as to form a dynamic shield in front of them, capable of deflecting arrows, darts, bullets, and wild Megaraptor attacks, as well as dispersing flames and gas.

Megaraptor’s Potential in ASA

Now that we’ve all seen what ARK Survival Ascended looks like and the new mechanics it introduced, I can tell without a doubt that Megaraptor will fit right in. The night is now really scary and anxiogenic, making the presence of this formidable ambush predator all the more terrifying. Furthermore, with the new path-finding system, Megaraptor will be a much more persistent stalker, and it will take more than a mere torch to escape it. Also, with the movement speed level-up gone, survivors will have no hope to outrun it. Such an opportunity to achieve the full potential of Megaraptor’s concept just can’t be missed!

If you liked Megaraptor, please upvote this submission and share it with your friends.
I’ll be listening to any feedback or advice you’d like to give me. Thanks for reading.
Megaraptor for the win!

Credits:
Created by Roberto Turati
Designed by TheFictionalLawyer & DILONG

Art by RiskyBiscuits, Lapis Lazuli (art references), TheFictionalLawyer & TheSilentReaper

With the participation of DynastyOfDragons, Jimmy, & TheSilentReaper

Dossier by Mihael & Roberto Turati

Possible Questions and Clarification:

Don’t we have enough theropods? - ARK has many carnivorous theropods, which has always made it difficult for creature submitters to come up with a new one and candidate it. But in my opinion, this creature is completely qualified to be a worthy addition to the game, since it delivers a richer hunter-v-prey experience for players, as well as a deep combat system that will surely make it a creature not only versatile, but also fun to use, which I think should matter more than anything else in a game.

Why add another raptor? - Because this is no “raptor”, in spite of its name. Megaraptoridae was a family of predatory theropods more closely related to Tyrannosauroidea than it was to Dromaeosauridae (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaraptora). Not only that, but Megaraptoridae is one of the few families in the Carnosauria infraorder that haven’t been featured in the game yet, while being really peculiar and unique, with their appearance strongly indicating that they were deadly predators.

Wouldn’t this heavily combat-oriented asset make Megaraptor overpowered? - Not really, since it still remains a medium-tier creature hardly stronger than Carnotaurus. Still, Megaraptor has great potential thanks to its several obtainable buffs and a more varied moveset than the now boring “bite spam”. Besides, if you want to get the most out of Megaraptor, you’ll need to get strategic with its Ambush Mode and Jumpscare Lunge, which is useful for approaching bases and scaring away the largest dinos, including Giganotosaurus. If exploited properly, this creature will be your best tame for fighting armies and bosses, but this comes at a price: Megaraptor’s fear of fire may turn the tide in combat all of a sudden, and its Overkill frenzy can be way more counterproductive than useful, if not played wisely.

Wouldn’t Megaraptor overshadow Deinonychus? - Absolutely not. In fact, although Megaraptor shares many similarities with Deinonychus while feeling overall like a superior tame (except for climbing), it’s worth mentioning that Deinonychus will hold its place in the survival experience. First of all, it’s an early tame, unlike Megaraptor. Second of all, Deinonychus’ Bleeding is still vital in boss fights, making it a mandatory tame. Finally, while Megaraptor is an especially good option to fight large enemies, it’s less efficient than Deinonychus against medium-sized creatures and far riskier when slaying large numbers of lesser foes.

Wouldn’t Megaraptor just become an annoyance like Pegomastax and Ichthyornis after a while? - It’s a very rare creature. Even though it gives its all in early-mid game and even if you’re flying across the map, you’ll have to fear it might show up the moment you need to land or venture the wilds. It’s a considerable threat to you and your mounts, but if you learn the best strategies to scare it away with fire, then you can live with it. In late game, while you’ll probably be too advanced to be Megaraptor’s prey, you’ll surely be able to enjoy it as a hunter and a fighter.

How useful will Megaraptor actually be against bosses? - Megaraptor is a good choice to slay the Broodmother spawning naturally in Valguero, but beware of her spiderlings: kill too many and you’ll trigger Megaraptor’s Overkill frenzy. As for Valguero’s true bosses - Megapithecus, Dragon, and Manticore - Megaraptors are ideal thanks to their Big Game buff and the absence of enemy minions getting in your way. The only issue will be losing control over the Megaraptors because of the Dragon and the Manticore’s fire-based attacks. This dinosaur won’t be the ultimate boss killer, but still a balanced solution, with its pros and cons. It’s up to you to choose how to use Megaraptor outside Valguero, not to mention the fact that everything depends on how Wildcard would design the official Megaraptor should it win the submission. For now, Megaraptor has several features helpful against bosses and giant creatures: accelerating blows, the ability to cling to large beasts, the Wounded status effect it deals to enemies, making them take more damage, and the Big Game buff, which allows it to resist much longer in a fight.

(Megaraptor fan art by Drawolf)

looks pretty cool

[TyranntX]

12 minutes ago, Billjaywarr said:

Raptors, carnos, allo, deinonychus, wolves, sabers, yutys, and even rexes are all out classed by other creatures but are still used and preferred by many. 

THIS IS THE SUBMISSION PHASE, HERBIVORES CAN STILL WIN, ITS NOT ABOUt ANYTHING ELSE. Maewings won’t be in the game for 2/3 years so the fact people have access to it, is a good thing in their eyes and there are some people upset about it.

garuga’s brachi is coming and they are going to continue to make more creatures, likely herbivorous ones. The game’s just gotten the dread which is a literal titan killer and even with the small variety of herbivores, they are (for the most part) just as unique and different to the next as carnivores are. Either way they are different species that cannot be compared.

And there it is, if they are outclassed, they are useless... right? but wait... people STILL use them, so they are NOT useless, right? Which is it, are they useless, or are they not useless. you can't have it both ways.

 

I-DON'T-CARE-IF-THIS-IS-THE SUBMISSION-PHASE. What part of that are you struggling to understand? We have enough carnivores, period. Submission phase or not, we don't need more.

 

Ah yes, one herbivore, out of four carnivores. And no, although he will make new mods only his original 10 from the ASE days are going to be base game tames. There is no word of any change to that.

it is true the dread is unique, but to say that about any other carnivore? False, and always will be.... false. Aside from their abilities, their role is all the same... To fight. They don't do anything else, but fight.

[RobertoTurati]

33 minutes ago, VLADALV said:

looks pretty cool

Thanks on behalf of the artists, too

[PrimalNacho]

38 minutes ago, TyranntX said:

 

Ah yes, one herbivore, out of four carnivores. And no, although he will make new mods only his original 10 from the ASE days are going to be base game tames. There is no word of any change to that.

it is true the dread is unique, but to say that about any other carnivore? False, and always will be.... false. Aside from their abilities, their role is all the same... To fight. They don't do anything else, but fight.

Heli is a very much needed ocean creature. The more ocean creatures we get (carnivorous or not) the better.

Everyone has said this 50 times, but Megaraptor serves as a cool, death-inspired theropod, who as you said, will fight, fight, fight in a survival and fighting game. 

Do we have other theropods who can do that? Sure! But again as stated by the author, Megaraptor is not supposed to bring abt new quality of life, it’s supposed to be a fun assassins creature. Not to your liking? That is completely fine!!! 

Some ppl just want megaraptor bc they like the creature. Others may want it bc its a theropod. Others like the idea of an assassin and an absolute beast. Just like your opinion and your care for herbivores is valid, so are these opinions when participating in a free vote!

Personally I don’t want a flier to win in this map, and would much rather for them to do well in the crystal isles vote, but thats just me!!! Who am I to go around and tell other people that they suck based on what they are voting? 

Also friendly reminder that the more replies and the more updates a submission gets, the more its featured as first in the thread. Take with that what u will.

 

Love the chibi art btw

[TyranntX]

3 minutes ago, PrimalNacho said:

Heli is a very much needed ocean creature. The more ocean creatures we get (carnivorous or not) the better.

Everyone has said this 50 times, but Megaraptor serves as a cool, death-inspired theropod, who as you said, will fight, fight, fight in a survival and fighting game. 

Do we have other theropods who can do that? Sure! But again as stated by the author, Megaraptor is not supposed to bring abt new quality of life, it’s supposed to be a fun assassins creature. Not to your liking? That is completely fine!!! 

Some ppl just want megaraptor bc they like the creature. Others may want it bc its a theropod. Others like the idea of an assassin and an absolute beast. Just like your opinion and your care for herbivores is valid, so are these opinions when participating in a free vote!

Personally I don’t want a flier to win in this map, and would much rather for them to do well in the crystal isles vote, but thats just me!!! Who am I to go around and tell other people that they suck based on what they are voting? 

Also friendly reminder that the more replies and the more updates a submission gets, the more its featured as first in the thread. Take with that what u will.

 

Love the chibi art btw

Ah yesh, the Heli, a creature used to turn loot into blueprints.... you know, something that is unique to it and actually useful. And just because it is a water tame doesn't mean its exclusive to one map. in fact if there's an ocean there's a good chance it will spwan there, unlike this proposal which will only spawn on Val. Megataptor on the other hand doesn't do anything other tames don't, and it certainly doesn't seem to do any of them better. So again, that makes it useless? right?

We have plenty of assassination tames. the rock drake for example can camouflage, and as a two seater can carry a sniper along with it. Tapajara can carry three people, hanging from walls and overhangs out of site and, again, with snipers in tow. Troodons are night raiding tames, you can use them to knock out your foes, and kill them while knocked out. The basilisk is a giant snake that can berrow underground and move while doing so, making it great for ambushes and with enough melee can prove to be an effective assassin. Hell, you don't even NEED a tame to be an assassin, just get a sniper rifle and do it yourself! We don't need another carnivore to do that.

 

If people want the megaraptor because "they like it" they should just open with that, not lie and create convoluted reasons about "wanting actual useful tames" or whatever. Just be honest, say you want megaraptorid representation in the game and end it there. That's the only valid reason why this creature should be considered, and not much else. Other carnivorous entries like Coelophysis get a pass because they have a lot more going for it. Megaraptor, is just yet another cretaceous theropod in a game where jurassic and cretaceous theropods are in abundance.

 

Also, why shouldn't a flyer win Val? Its an enormous canyon map! Flying is practically mandatory! You saying you want a land locked, barely carno level theropod on a map with so much elevation? Don't get me wrong we don't need any more pterosaurs either, but to writhe them off just because of the map we're voting for?

[RobertoTurati]

22 minutes ago, PrimalNacho said:

Heli is a very much needed ocean creature. The more ocean creatures we get (carnivorous or not) the better.

Everyone has said this 50 times, but Megaraptor serves as a cool, death-inspired theropod, who as you said, will fight, fight, fight in a survival and fighting game. 

Do we have other theropods who can do that? Sure! But again as stated by the author, Megaraptor is not supposed to bring abt new quality of life, it’s supposed to be a fun assassins creature. Not to your liking? That is completely fine!!! 

Some ppl just want megaraptor bc they like the creature. Others may want it bc its a theropod. Others like the idea of an assassin and an absolute beast. Just like your opinion and your care for herbivores is valid, so are these opinions when participating in a free vote!

Personally I don’t want a flier to win in this map, and would much rather for them to do well in the crystal isles vote, but thats just me!!! Who am I to go around and tell other people that they suck based on what they are voting? 

Also friendly reminder that the more replies and the more updates a submission gets, the more its featured as first in the thread. Take with that what u will.

 

Love the chibi art btw

Thanks about the chibi. Complete with the wolf's quote X)

[Billjaywarr]

1 hour ago, TyranntX said:

And there it is, if they are outclassed, they are useless... right? but wait... people STILL use them, so they are NOT useless, right? Which is it, are they useless, or are they not useless. you can't have it both ways.

 

I-DON'T-CARE-IF-THIS-IS-THE SUBMISSION-PHASE. What part of that are you struggling to understand? We have enough carnivores, period. Submission phase or not, we don't need more.

 

Ah yes, one herbivore, out of four carnivores. And no, although he will make new mods only his original 10 from the ASE days are going to be base game tames. There is no word of any change to that.

it is true the dread is unique, but to say that about any other carnivore? False, and always will be.... false. Aside from their abilities, their role is all the same... To fight. They don't do anything else, but fight.

 It’s not that simple, it’s down to personal preferences, carno can bleed without a pack buff but allos can’t, however, they are stronger on their own.

What are you struggling to understand? This creature might not win which means you end up with another herbivore, isn’t that what you want?

Ceratasaurus? Not a good fighter, cryo? Can raptor’s spit ice and knock other creatures out?, concavinator is only not unique because the fasola but there are still differences. Acro? Definitely different from giga and Rex

and how are herbivores any different? gather berries, hit a tree, swing weird tail at rock, repeat.

[TyranntX]

1 minute ago, Billjaywarr said:

 It’s not that simple, it’s down to personal preferences, carno can bleed without a pack buff but allos can’t, however, they are stronger on their own.

What are you struggling to understand? This creature might not win which means you end up with another herbivore, isn’t that what you want?

Ceratasaurus? Not a good fighter, cryo? Can raptor’s spit ice and knock other creatures out?, concavinator is only not unique because the fasola but there are still differences. Acro? Definitely different from giga and Rex

and how are herbivores any different? gather berries, hit a tree, swing weird tail at rock, repeat.

Carno might be able to bleed on their own, but they are NOT more powerful than allos. and even if they weren't, rexes are and are powerful enough not to need bleed. and if you need a bleed attack there's always the giga which is even more powerful than the rex.

 

True, but megaraptor is still ranked #1 in the top 10. Meaning it has a chance to win the vote. if it weren't we wouldn't be having this conversation. And even if Megaraptor doesn't win, doesn't Necessarily mean a herbivore will. The Ceratopcids, Desmatosuchus, and the Stick bug still have A cheetah, TWO azhdarchids, a spitting long-necked lizard, and ANOTHER theropod to contend with. All of which have a lot more going for them than the megaraptor does.

 

Ceratosaurs, can LITERALLY fight bosses when bred and raised right, especially if you get a bunch of them like you're meant to. Cryo cannot pounce, and needs water in order to use its best features in its arsenal, not exactly ideal on arid maps like Val or even Scorched (it also doesn't help that it's taming method is getting overhauled). Conca? Conca isn't copying Fasola, Fasola copied conca before conca could even make it into the game... not to mention Conca has a biger tool kit and can breach from the land. And Acro is literally just A carnivore with a more defensive slant, but otherwise it's just a taller rex.

 

Herbivores are indeed different, can you name any tame with better damage resistance than the stego? Can you name a tame that gets a damage buff when fighting carnivores bigger than it like the Trike? Can you name ANY tame that has INFINITE STAMINA like the Igunodon? What about a tame that has high carry capacity like sauropods? Or as good of a metal miner as the ankylosaurus? No? you can't? Then I suppose my point has been made. Herbivores are not as boring as you are trying to make them out to be.

[PrimalNacho]

5 hours ago, TyranntX said:

Also, why shouldn't a flyer win Val? Its an enormous canyon map! Flying is practically mandatory! You saying you want a land locked, barely carno level theropod on a map with so much elevation? Don't get me wrong we don't need any more pterosaurs either, but to writhe them off just because of the map we're voting for?

My point being personal preference shouldn’t tried to be set as a standard. For instance, I hope that a flier doesn’t win on this map since it could make fliers less appealing in future votes, especially on a map where there are floating islands everywhere and is significantly larger than Val. (For example, there isn’t a sauropod who has gotten any significant traction in this creature vote) Still, that doesn’t mean that everyone has to agree with me.

 

Regarding Megaraptor:

Personally I have always liked the creature, and I always pictured it as a cunning assassin, so this submission hits home. 
 

Main take away? We all have diff approaches to these votes and how we vote, and all of these approaches are fine. 

[TyranntX]

43 minutes ago, PrimalNacho said:

My point being personal preference shouldn’t tried to be set as a standard. For instance, I hope that a flier doesn’t win on this map since it could make fliers less appealing in future votes, especially on a map where there are floating islands everywhere and is significantly larger than Val. (For example, there isn’t a sauropod who has gotten any significant traction in this creature vote) Still, that doesn’t mean that everyone has to agree with me.

 

Regarding Megaraptor:

Personally I have always liked the creature, and I always pictured it as a cunning assassin, so this submission hits home. 
 

Main take away? We all have diff approaches to these votes and how we vote, and all of these approaches are fine. 

 

By that logic Megaraptor should DEFINATLY not be voted for because CARNIVORES been devalued for literally every vote they've been in, even the ones they didn't win due to an omnivore that did much of the same. and the on major reason why there's no sauropods in the top 10 is because there are none with any suggested abilities that are all that interesting, or even all that many this time around anyway.

 

We have enough carnivores, we don't need more. You want to be an assassin? Get a sniper rifle.

[RebelKevin94]

13 hours ago, RobertoTurati said:

It won't. The "wounded" status effect caused by the wounding gnash is different from the bleeding caused by Allosaurus and others. It makes the enemy take more damage, and they leave behind a blood trail that megaraptor can see and follow, gaining a speed boost.

Ok I understand

[Mezoguy]

Personally I think the more dangerous creatures there are, the more it amplifies the feeling of vulnerability that one should have as a little human left to his own devices on an island full of creatures who know only survival as a saying, we should be terrified about ASA, it’s a wild island not an animal park

[Billjaywarr]

15 hours ago, TyranntX said:

Carno might be able to bleed on their own, but they are NOT more powerful than allos. and even if they weren't, rexes are and are powerful enough not to need bleed. and if you need a bleed attack there's always the giga which is even more powerful than the rex.

 

True, but megaraptor is still ranked #1 in the top 10. Meaning it has a chance to win the vote. if it weren't we wouldn't be having this conversation. And even if Megaraptor doesn't win, doesn't Necessarily mean a herbivore will. The Ceratopcids, Desmatosuchus, and the Stick bug still have A cheetah, TWO azhdarchids, a spitting long-necked lizard, and ANOTHER theropod to contend with. All of which have a lot more going for them than the megaraptor does.

 

Ceratosaurs, can LITERALLY fight bosses when bred and raised right, especially if you get a bunch of them like you're meant to. Cryo cannot pounce, and needs water in order to use its best features in its arsenal, not exactly ideal on arid maps like Val or even Scorched (it also doesn't help that it's taming method is getting overhauled). Conca? Conca isn't copying Fasola, Fasola copied conca before conca could even make it into the game... not to mention Conca has a biger tool kit and can breach from the land. And Acro is literally just A carnivore with a more defensive slant, but otherwise it's just a taller rex.

 

Herbivores are indeed different, can you name any tame with better damage resistance than the stego? Can you name a tame that gets a damage buff when fighting carnivores bigger than it like the Trike? Can you name ANY tame that has INFINITE STAMINA like the Igunodon? What about a tame that has high carry capacity like sauropods? Or as good of a metal miner as the ankylosaurus? No? you can't? Then I suppose my point has been made. Herbivores are not as boring as you are trying to make them out to be.

Anything is strong with imprint and mutations lol. Stegos may be good for pvp but in general they aren’t that good and even in the wild, fighting them is pointless as they aren’t refelective of your creatures strength. Tamed trikes don’t have that ability so again it leaves them less useless when tamed. A good pick with an argentavis works although I’ll give you anky and who needs infinite stamina? If a different creature, like a thyla, has enough stamina, it won’t matter if it’s infinite or not, it still gets you from A to B and is able to survive if attacked.

[TyranntX]

1 hour ago, Billjaywarr said:

Anything is strong with imprint and mutations lol. Stegos may be good for pvp but in general they aren’t that good and even in the wild, fighting them is pointless as they aren’t refelective of your creatures strength. Tamed trikes don’t have that ability so again it leaves them less useless when tamed. A good pick with an argentavis works although I’ll give you anky and who needs infinite stamina? If a different creature, like a thyla, has enough stamina, it won’t matter if it’s infinite or not, it still gets you from A to B and is able to survive if attacked.

And we've looped back to the potential of nothing being useless again, so is cerato useless or not? stop going back and forth with this (they aren't.) Nothing in the wild is reflective of a tame's strength, that doesn't make stego's not formidable. Trikes DO have that ability when tamed, it's called RIVALRY, and it's on the ASA wiki, making whay you just said FALSE. People who prefer fast mounts with decent swim speeds, and live a more nomadic lifestyle  care about infinite stamina. Thyla is a horrible swimmer, not as fast, and doesn't fit the same niche as iguanodon. Admit it, guy, we don't need any more carnivores.