Question - Single Player Save Issue

[Lpd688]

Has this issue been resolved?  Haven’t played since February.  Checking to see if this has been remedied.

[CptYarrr]

9 hours ago, Lpd688 said:

Has this issue been resolved?  Haven’t played since February.  Checking to see if this has been remedied.

Have you tried in the past 9 hours? Has to be faster then to wait all this time.

Edited July 27, 2024 by CptYarrr

[Lpd688]

6 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Have you tried in the past 9 hours? Has to be faster than to wait all this time.

Of course not.  Why try only to lose any progress and spend time downloading the game again.  

[Rich2D2]

Same as you but will never go anywhere near ark ever again , the previous poster doesn’t play single player on Xbox  . 

 

[CptYarrr]

22 hours ago, Lpd688 said:

Of course not.  Why try only to lose any progress and spend time downloading the game again.  

If you just play for a few minutes and then try to save maybe?

[CptYarrr]

20 hours ago, Rich2D2 said:

Same as you but will never go anywhere near ark ever again , the previous poster doesn’t play single player on Xbox  . 

 

Correct. PCplayer here. Couldnt see from OP what platform he/she is playing.

[Pipinghot]

5 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

If you just play for a few minutes and then try to save maybe?

It's really strange that you're arguing with the OP for no apparent reason.

They came here to ask a perfectly reasonable question (which, by the way, does not have an answer that can be discovered by doing a search on the forums, all that shows up is a bunch others reporting the problem and asking the same question), and all you've done is give non-answers and propose a "solution" that doesn't really work. The problem doesn't happen to every player, every time, from the reports on these forums it's intermittent and unpredictable. Neither 'trying in the last 9 hours' nor 'playing for a few minutes' would answer the question, it could just as easily lead to a false answer by giving the OP the false impression that the problem is fixed.

It would have been good if the OP had specified their platform in the first post, that's their mistake, but all that means is the first response to the OP should have been, "What platform are you on?", not red-herrings and bad troubleshooting.

[CptYarrr]

2 hours ago, Pipinghot said:

It's really strange that you're arguing with the OP for no apparent reason.

They came here to ask a perfectly reasonable question (which, by the way, does not have an answer that can be discovered by doing a search on the forums, all that shows up is a bunch others reporting the problem and asking the same question), and all you've done is give non-answers and propose a "solution" that doesn't really work. The problem doesn't happen to every player, every time, from the reports on these forums it's intermittent and unpredictable. Neither 'trying in the last 9 hours' nor 'playing for a few minutes' would answer the question, it could just as easily lead to a false answer by giving the OP the false impression that the problem is fixed.

It would have been good if the OP had specified their platform in the first post, that's their mistake, but all that means is the first response to the OP should have been, "What platform are you on?", not red-herrings and bad troubleshooting.

I always tend to test stuff this out before asking on a forum. OP starts his post with the fact he had issues the previous time in february. Wich tells me, or at least it looks like, he hasnt booted the game ever since. 

Now if this issue is still a thing, in your own words because it can be unpredictable, he could have had the answer when he tested it first. 

Then he could've posted that he still had issues and maybe since then an answer popped up somewhere.

I wasnt arguing at all, that's your perceptive. Only asked basic questions to narrow down the possibilities to try and help out.

Being offended nowadays seems to be an hype. Take it from me, not worth the energy. Thinking in solutions and helping others out would make this world a way better place instead.

 

[Pipinghot]

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

I always tend to test stuff this out before asking on a forum. OP starts his post with the fact he had issues the previous time in february. Wich tells me, or at least it looks like, he hasnt booted the game ever since.

And testing that is insufficient for the task often doesn't work. Logging in "for a few minutes" is in no way a valid test and could easily give a false good result. There is zero troubleshooting value in doing a test that is insufficient to give a good answer.

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Now if this issue is still a thing, in your own words because it can be unpredictable, he could have had the answer when he tested it first.

Again, no, that's bad troubleshooting.

A false good-result could have lead the OP to a wrong conclusion. He could not gotten a good answer for an intermittent problem without doing fairly extensive testing, not "a few minutes" or 'trying in the last nine hours'. A brief test would failed to give conclusive information.

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Then he could've posted that he still had issues and maybe since then an answer popped up somewhere.

While it's reasonable, and standard practice, to expect people to do some due diligence before posting questions when troubleshooting an unknown scenario, this was not troubleshooting an issue that was unknown or perplexing to the OP. They already knew about a publicly known issue from months ago and simply asked if anyone knew whether it had been fixed. The OP wasn't asking for help troubleshooting, they weren't asking other people to do hours of work for them, they weren't asking other people to help them with their troubleshooting logic, they asked whether anyone knew that answer to a simple yes/no question - answering with red herrings doesn't qualify as helping.

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

I wasnt arguing at all, that's your perceptive. Only asked basic questions to narrow down the possibilities to try and help out.

Fair enough, not arguing, just posting red herrings and patronizing questions that didn't lead down a path to a useful, helpful answer. Point taken.

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Being offended nowadays seems to be an hype. Take it from me, not worth the energy.

Accusing someone of being offended in order to dodge an honest discussion about posting bad responses is also "an hype". Nothing new about that.

8 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Thinking in solutions and helping others out would make this world a way better place instead.

Agreed, which is exactly why I made the argument that your replies were neither solutions nor helping others.

[CptYarrr]

3 hours ago, Pipinghot said:

Agreed, which is exactly why I made the argument that your replies were neither solutions nor helping others.

Lol, my Discord says otherwise. But hey, feel free to stay offended.

[Pipinghot]

10 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

Lol, my Discord says otherwise.

This isn't your Discord, another red herring. We're discussing only this single thread on this forum. In no way have I suggested that you're not helpful elsewhere nor suggested that you have failed to be helpful in other threads on these forums.

10 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

But hey, feel free to stay offended.

Repeating your false accusation doesn't make it better, it's still a false accusation.

But hey, if you need to use more red-herrings in an attempt to hand-wave your way past the discussion, feel free to keep dodging and weaving.

[CptYarrr]

My bad, oh wise man. 

You wont see me back here again.

[CervantesMor]

On 7/28/2024 at 9:45 PM, Pipinghot said:

It's really strange that you're arguing with the OP for no apparent reason

 

5 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

My bad, oh wise man. 

You wont see me back here again.

 

Edited: now the translation seems to be complete and correct (it took me longer to correct the translation than to write :D)

 

 

Hey... you don't have to take it, Pipinghot is always very direct and is often misunderstood as a "critical attacker" even when his intent is to point out (and analyze) the details in a diplomatic and blunt way. For your part (CptYarr) I have often seen your commitment to helping anyone when you can, and even to joke with some fine jokes.

The point in your discussion is that you're not understanding each other: CptYarr gave the first answer, "Have you tried in the last nine hours? It has to be faster than waiting all this time." simply referring to the fact that after 9 hours no one had yet told him yes/no, Lpd688 answered him with the personal and correct motivation of why he is not testing it himself, Rich understood the misunderstanding and pointed out that CptYarrr does not even know the problem since this does not exist on PC (while on XBox the Manual Save option was removed, so it is not a "random" problem but concrete and persistent... even now) and in its third answer (CptYarr) quietly admits this point. It was the second answer that was slightly misunderstood (combining it with the first answer: maybe not correctly understood) because maybe there was a missing piece of the sentence that CptYarr gave as a implied: "considering that after more than 24 hours no one has given an answer ""If you just play for a few minutes and then try to save maybe?""" I think it is the most obvious suggestion if I do not know the problem in question because the only alternative is to wait here for an answer that may not even arrive (it is then up to OP to decide whether to wait indefinitely here or wait for the time of the installation and understand what the current situation is).

Pipinghot for your part "It's really strange that you're arguing with the OP for no apparent reason" makes me realize that you didn't interpret CptYarrr's intentions in the correct way (as I analyzed above) especially in the first answer (which was in reference to the time spent without getting any answer here on the Forum) and I bet the reason is that you also didn't personally encounter this problem (because you play on PC), a part of your pointing comes from this and a part comes from lack of knowledge of the problem itself;  I take the liberty of replying to your (Pipinghot) first message: in reality this problem has been often discussed on the Forum and especially in the first few days it was often explained that this problem does not occur on PC but that it concerns the **removal of the option of Manual Save which appears in the Pause menu, only on the Console (on the PC it is currently present, if I'm not mistaken it was only deactivated for a period), combined with the fact that the game also has a defect in auto-save that in some cases does not work properly (add, combined with frequent Crahs that then bring you back to not knowing when if you have not manually saved) ** of which none of WC has ever given a concrete explanation as far as I know [[if anyone has news refreshes our memory]]. So yes, the problem happens to all players * on Consolle*, every time * because the situation has not changed at all *, and the reports on the Forum are unpredictable only in the aspect of self-rescue that usually works but often presents its Bug and freezes; in addition we know well that not everyone always reads or reads the whole Forum and that many enter to ask the problem without having been present in the past or without having searched in related discussions and that Almost no one is aware that part of this problem is present exclusively on Consolle, this cause "from the reports on these forums is intermittent and unpredictable."

The moment I'm writing almost three days have passed without anyone giving an answer or at least an explanation, so if Lpd688 had downloaded the game in the meantime, he would immediately realize that the Manual Rescue option is not yet present, if he then chose to try to play an hour he would understand if the game saves automatically or if the related Bug is persistent, then it was up to him to decide whether to put the game down until a resolution. the two problems or whether to play aware of the current uncertain situation.

We certainly all agree that performing the tests personally could bring the answers we are looking for without needing to ask, but I think we can also agree on the * to ask if someone has already tested or already knows a concrete answer/explanation that can save a certain amount of time *, that's why in all this debate I see only a misunderstanding from two people who have the same intent: to help.

 

So now a big sigh reminding us that we are all here to help each other 😉

Edited July 30, 2024 by CervantesMor
Traslate not correct

[Joebl0w13]

17 minutes ago, CervantesMor said:

in addition we know well that not everyone always reads or reads the whole Forum

Sadly, I do. Every single post. Not that that helps most people posting. 

[CervantesMor]

On 7/27/2024 at 1:23 AM, Lpd688 said:

Has this issue been resolved?  Haven’t played since February.  Checking to see if this has been remedied.

Hi, I play on XBox and I confirm that the Manual Save option is not yet present but that the "saveworld" Command Console can also be run on XBox and works correctly (I have tested); regarding the defects of Auto-Save I can't give you any guarantee but it works correctly for me, both when I exit the game and then return, and in the meantime I play (in the standard time frames), obviously I will be taken back a few minutes when a crash occurs (this would happen even if you have the Manual Save button active but don't use it every 2 minutes).

 

[CptYarrr]

13 hours ago, CervantesMor said:

 

 

Edited: now the translation seems to be complete and correct (it took me longer to correct the translation than to write :D)

 

 

Hey... you don't have to take it, Pipinghot is always very direct and is often misunderstood as a "critical attacker" even when his intent is to point out (and analyze) the details in a diplomatic and blunt way. For your part (CptYarr) I have often seen your commitment to helping anyone when you can, and even to joke with some fine jokes.

The point in your discussion is that you're not understanding each other: CptYarr gave the first answer, "Have you tried in the last nine hours? It has to be faster than waiting all this time." simply referring to the fact that after 9 hours no one had yet told him yes/no, Lpd688 answered him with the personal and correct motivation of why he is not testing it himself, Rich understood the misunderstanding and pointed out that CptYarrr does not even know the problem since this does not exist on PC (while on XBox the Manual Save option was removed, so it is not a "random" problem but concrete and persistent... even now) and in its third answer (CptYarr) quietly admits this point. It was the second answer that was slightly misunderstood (combining it with the first answer: maybe not correctly understood) because maybe there was a missing piece of the sentence that CptYarr gave as a implied: "considering that after more than 24 hours no one has given an answer ""If you just play for a few minutes and then try to save maybe?""" I think it is the most obvious suggestion if I do not know the problem in question because the only alternative is to wait here for an answer that may not even arrive (it is then up to OP to decide whether to wait indefinitely here or wait for the time of the installation and understand what the current situation is).

Pipinghot for your part "It's really strange that you're arguing with the OP for no apparent reason" makes me realize that you didn't interpret CptYarrr's intentions in the correct way (as I analyzed above) especially in the first answer (which was in reference to the time spent without getting any answer here on the Forum) and I bet the reason is that you also didn't personally encounter this problem (because you play on PC), a part of your pointing comes from this and a part comes from lack of knowledge of the problem itself;  I take the liberty of replying to your (Pipinghot) first message: in reality this problem has been often discussed on the Forum and especially in the first few days it was often explained that this problem does not occur on PC but that it concerns the **removal of the option of Manual Save which appears in the Pause menu, only on the Console (on the PC it is currently present, if I'm not mistaken it was only deactivated for a period), combined with the fact that the game also has a defect in auto-save that in some cases does not work properly (add, combined with frequent Crahs that then bring you back to not knowing when if you have not manually saved) ** of which none of WC has ever given a concrete explanation as far as I know [[if anyone has news refreshes our memory]]. So yes, the problem happens to all players * on Consolle*, every time * because the situation has not changed at all *, and the reports on the Forum are unpredictable only in the aspect of self-rescue that usually works but often presents its Bug and freezes; in addition we know well that not everyone always reads or reads the whole Forum and that many enter to ask the problem without having been present in the past or without having searched in related discussions and that Almost no one is aware that part of this problem is present exclusively on Consolle, this cause "from the reports on these forums is intermittent and unpredictable."

The moment I'm writing almost three days have passed without anyone giving an answer or at least an explanation, so if Lpd688 had downloaded the game in the meantime, he would immediately realize that the Manual Rescue option is not yet present, if he then chose to try to play an hour he would understand if the game saves automatically or if the related Bug is persistent, then it was up to him to decide whether to put the game down until a resolution. the two problems or whether to play aware of the current uncertain situation.

We certainly all agree that performing the tests personally could bring the answers we are looking for without needing to ask, but I think we can also agree on the * to ask if someone has already tested or already knows a concrete answer/explanation that can save a certain amount of time *, that's why in all this debate I see only a misunderstanding from two people who have the same intent: to help.

 

So now a big sigh reminding us that we are all here to help each other 😉

Thanks.

You seem to understand and word how to point out the issue perfectly. I do realize Pipinghot and me wherent on the same page, yet we both do want the same. Thats helping people out. For me, thats the important reason coming to this forum. Since the most of us know exactly how Snail rolls, I agree that we shouldnt stop doing that. English isnt my native language and for the most part I can handle myself. Sometimes it gets a tad frustrating being "attacked" while I (and others) are trying to deduct first before going into full help mode. In the end its still "just" a game. 

So, my bad @Pipinghotfor the misunderstanding. Deduction is, in my opinion, needed before going into full details of helping out. 

With that being said, I also like to point out the fact that this game can give some serious headaches from time to time. I really miss devs helping out and I still have some hope Snail realizes that they can gain alot more kudos with doing that. The game is getting too much updates wich has nothing to do anymore with being an ARK kinda game as it was on ASE. 
The postponing of the maps over and over again keeps on bugging alot of us. We where getting hyped for a long time. "Total (free) overhaul", "better graphics", "new dinos", etc. Most of this is now behind a paywall, wich gives alot of players a bad taste in their mouths. 
I came to realize for myself yesterday that next to the previous, we're all being left in the dark more and more by Snail.
In just over a little month, we should be getting a new map and an huge update performancewise. What we should get, and this is again my opinion, is a working game on all platforms first. No more nonsense crashes, but a good and playable game. This new update will not work out if the base of the game stays a mess.

[CptYarrr]

13 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said:

Sadly, I do. Every single post. Not that that helps most people posting. 

And most of us oldtimers see you working and deleting alot of crapposts. If it wasnt for you and the rest of the crew, we couldnt even find the berries in the bushes. The amount of false advertisements is just insane. 

[Joebl0w13]

3 hours ago, CptYarrr said:

And most of us oldtimers see you working and deleting alot of crapposts. If it wasnt for you and the rest of the crew, we couldnt even find the berries in the bushes. The amount of false advertisements is just insane. 

It’s bad. What’s funny is, you guys only see the 10-20% that makes it past the filters. There’s much more. 

[Pipinghot]

20 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said:

Sadly, I do. Every single post.

Forum moderator: The perfect job for masochists.

Show me on the doll where the garbageposter touched you.

Edited July 31, 2024 by Pipinghot

[Joebl0w13]

20 minutes ago, Pipinghot said:

Forum moderator: The perfect job for masochists.

Show me on the doll where the garbageposter touched you.

[CptYarrr]

8 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said:

It’s bad. What’s funny is, you guys only see the 10-20% that makes it past the filters. There’s much more. 

I dont know whats worse tbh. The crap or that you actually need to put up filters. But ye, I can only imagine. 
The world is getting worse with the day.

[Joebl0w13]

3 minutes ago, CptYarrr said:

I dont know whats worse tbh. The crap or that you actually need to put up filters. But ye, I can only imagine. 
The world is getting worse with the day.

If the filters would work on Hanzi/Kanji characters. I would be a happy(er) person. 

[Lpd688]

Wow, I did not have any intention of creating an issue for  the content in this post.  As doc’d in earlier posts, consoles are effected by the save issue so I thought it would be understood the game is played on Xbox/PS5 as there is a long standing history of this issue that has not been resolved.  I was merely looking for an answer to those that have continued to play ASA w/out going through all of the steps to try to determine the answer - single player.
 

Clearly this is a major issue that still has yet to be resolved for console players.

Edited August 3, 2024 by Lpd688

[Pipinghot]

On 8/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, Lpd688 said:

Wow, I did not have any intention of creating an issue for  the content in this post.

Oh don't worry about that, we're all perfectly capable of finding things to argue about.

On 8/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, Lpd688 said:

As doc’d in earlier posts, consoles are effected by the save issue so I thought it would be understood the game is played on Xbox/PS5 as there is a long standing history of this issue that has not been resolved.

For what it's worth, it truly is helpful to state what platform you're on any time you ask a question. There are so many issues that affect multiple platforms, and affect them differently, that it's a good idea to tell people what platform you're on when you talk about a problem. A question usually has different answers depending on the platform being played on. The issue you're asking about is a good example, since ASA was released there have been multiple save issues that have affected different platforms in different ways. Knowing your platform helps other people give you better answers rather than having the kind of confusion demonstrated in this thread.