SXS14 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Hey Community I found very little information about this on google, but di they really remove the option to run my own dedicated server in the XBOX version? I used to run my own server for friends and family for the last few years in ASE, which was working awesome and I never had any issues. My dedicated server was running on my old gaming rig with a separate account, and we were able to join from XBOX and PC (Microsoft) from both the internal network and also from external via XBOX friendslist. It's hard to believe that they removed this feature, because there is no way I am going to pay for an overprized 20 slot nitrado server.... I would be very thankful for answers or recommendations, maybe there is a way around this somehow. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero064 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Interesting. I didn't know that existed in ASE. Since you already have an extra PC, you can set up a Steam server for ASA and configure it to allow connections from consoles (the multihome setting I believe). After an initial fuss they let us create servers with an anonymous login, which means you don't have to buy an extra copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Thanks for your answer. Well I have read on several sites that steam servers won't allow crossplay. I don't know which information is correct, but I hope there will be a solution. I mean, I get it if they say that maybe consoles are too weak to run ASA dedicated servers, but the microsoft version also applies to PC, which is a whole different thing regarding performance. However, selling a bugged remake of a game with a new engine for 45 bucks with a delay of many months, which includes a 30 € per month subscription for players who want to host their own servers is just riddiculous... But I guess that's how it is nowadays... I cannot remember the last time I bought a finished game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero064 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 There's a thread on making crossplay in the server admin section. Seems like it works without any additional config required: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Hmm thanks for the link to this topic. Now I guess I have to wait until they somehow allow you to run a steam server without having to buy the game again right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero064 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, SXS14 said: Hmm thanks for the link to this topic. Now I guess I have to wait until they somehow allow you to run a steam server without having to buy the game again right? Nope, you can do that right now. Initially they required us to buy a copy, but now you can run the server with an anonymous login (no purchase required). The instructions are here: https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Many Thanks I guess I will try that tomorrow.👍 by the way, I have also read that there is no ini file anymore, is that correct? I have seen posts where poeple say you have to enter commands while the game/server is running in order to change server settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkradeon Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 multihome has nothing to do with crossplatform. on ASE the Microsoft Store version came with unofficial server bits for Microsoft crossplay (Xbox and windows store), but that's another story. on ASA you can start a crossplatform dedicated server using the steam server, but you cannot opt-out any platform: it's Steam only or ALL. The command line launching argument should be -ServerPlatform=ALL I bet console only and platforms opt-out is left to nitrado only. https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, darkradeon said: multihome has nothing to do with crossplatform. on ASE the Microsoft Store version came with unofficial server bits for Microsoft crossplay (Xbox and windows store), but that's another story. on ASA you can start a crossplatform dedicated server using the steam server, but you cannot opt-out any platform: it's Steam only or ALL. The command line launching argument should be -ServerPlatform=ALL I bet console only and platforms opt-out is left to nitrado only. https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration That sounds somehow rational. I think I will protect it with a password anyway, so this should not be a problem. Also the server will only be running when we are playing. I equipped it with a smart switch and VNC to be able to switch it on or off from anywhere and remote access it. This will take some time to get everything running😅👍 The only downside I see with this solution is the lack of the XBOX friendslist joining or invite, which allowed people outside my network to access the sercer without opening additional ports or having a static public IP. Gotta figure something out to fix these problems I guess... Edited November 25, 2023 by SXS14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, zero064 said: Nope, you can do that right now. Initially they required us to buy a copy, but now you can run the server with an anonymous login (no purchase required). The instructions are here: https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup I just looked through the article and under "Prerequisites" the article states: "It is not possible to self-host a cross-platform dedicated server or a server for a platform other than Steam." This somehow tells me that cross-plattform is not a thing with a steam dedicated server, or do I understand this wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero064 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, SXS14 said: I just looked through the article and under "Prerequisites" the article states: "It is not possible to self-host a cross-platform dedicated server or a server for a platform other than Steam." This somehow tells me that cross-plattform is not a thing with a steam dedicated server, or do I understand this wrong? I haven't tried it so I can't say for sure, but the verdict in the server section is that it does work. The wiki was written for ASE. That bit of text could be a leftover that hasn't been updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 I will give a feedback if finally had the time to test this.👍😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) @zero064 Thank you so much for all your inputs, I really appreciate it. I got a server set up on my second PC with SteamCMD after playing around with settings and reading all the articles, also I watched yome videos for more options. And yes, it works with the "-ServerPlatform=ALL" option which @darkradeon mentioned in his comment, without it, XBOX and Microsoft PC version players are not able to see the servers. I am now struggeling with performance on the PC. My GPU is a RTX2070S which is not even fully loaded when the game is running, but FPS is dropping very low to 20FPS and lower. Gotta figure that out. Also I have to migrate all my server settings from my ASE server to ASA. The XBOX version is running fine FPS wise, but it seems like there is some HDR bug. Everything seems to have a overrated RED saturation. BTW. is there some recommendation on how to properly shut a server down besides just closing the server console? And also is there some sort of GUI for the server console? Edited November 25, 2023 by SXS14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero064 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, SXS14 said: BTW. is there some recommendation on how to properly shut a server down besides just closing the server console? And also is there some sort of GUI for the server console? Set your server up for RCON (it's in the guide somewhere) and download ARKon from http://rusty.sadface.co.uk/download/ARKon/ARKon.zip. Somewhere in the wiki you'll find a bunch of commands that are useful. The ones to shut down the server are saveworld followed by doexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperionOmega Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) Hey all a question for all involved that got this to work. I sat up the server like stated on the trouble chute video and i have it going and was even able to play for a bit but i went home and now I cant connect to it. All I get is a server timeout message. I can see it and all but it doesnt let me connect. Again trying to connect from an xbox to a steam server any help would be appreciated Edit exact error is Connection Timeout Edited November 26, 2023 by HyperionOmega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 @zero064 Thanks again for this helpful information. Now the only thing that really bugs me is that I don't have any game.ini file to change server settings... in my shooterGame\saved\config\WindowsServer folder ther only is a gameusersettings.ini file, but no game.ini. Do you know how I can solve this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXS14 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, SXS14 said: @zero064 Thanks again for this helpful information. Now the only thing that really bugs me is that I don't have any game.ini file to change server settings... in my shooterGame\saved\config\WindowsServer folder ther only is a gameusersettings.ini file, but no game.ini. Do you know how I can solve this? Nevermind, as soon as ARkon was working, I saved the world and shut down the server properly, and there was the game.ini file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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