ORP Servers

[Rashawn]

When I first got into ark some years back I hopped on an official orp pvp server and played for years without knowing there were other types. Don't judge me lol.... but I'm curious will orp pvp servers be available at launch? I genuinely don't know if that was like a late addition server or something.

[Dodowhisperer]

On 11/30/2023 at 2:05 PM, aikkam said:

Better than losing everything while you're not online 

You're going to lose it all eventually anyways. ORP is a lie of a game mode

[aikkam]

4 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

You're going to lose it all eventually anyways. ORP is a lie of a game mode

it's pvp the possibility of losing everything remains, but if someone attacks me I can try to defend myself or escape trying to save the most important things, in the same way when I attack I won't find an empty base with no one to defend it, just so I can play real games pvp (player vs player). We know all the problems of the orp (very easy to solve) but we are willing to face them to have a chance to play this game that's what we are saying, we played in orp and had fun and would like to have fun once again in ASA like all other pvp and pve players, is this so wrong? 

[aikkam]

20 minutes ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Wildcard probably doesn't want to support a half baked broken pvp game mode when the original pvp game was designed for 24/7 pvp. Taking away pin codes etc won't stop people from hiding behind ORP abuse. It's unintended gameplay for one person behind alts to control a whole server with orp spam or for a weak tribe to simply kick one offline alt to take all their exterior base structures offline to prevent annihilation from a superior force.  There's so many broken ORP related exploits that GMs can't even keep up with the blatant ORP related abuse tickets on top of the other stuff they have to deal with on regular servers. All ORP means is added moderation cost for s small player base. The cost of re developing ORP code when its not even a main feature of the online pvp game is probably also too high considering other priorities.   ORP moderation would be a great AI use case scenario though if Wildcard was interested in an auto ban hammer approach based on heuristics. Then again there's still a cost to that too.

if they don't have time or money to reopen the orp servers on ASA they could not close the ASE ones 

[aikkam]

26 minutes ago, Dodowhisperer said:

 Togliere i codici PIN ecc. non impedirà alle persone di nascondersi dietro l'abuso dell'ORP 

It won't solve all problems but it eliminates many 

[aikkam]

28 minutes ago, Dodowhisperer said:

 il gioco pvp originale è stato progettato per il pvp 24 ore su 24, 7 giorni su 7 .

excellent, they made a game that almost no one can play, only a young boy or an unemployed person always in their room, if they have financial problems I'm not surprised 

[aikkam]

pvp orp server thanks 

[aikkam]

open some orp pvp servers 

[aikkam]

3 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Ora hai capito. La simulazione non si interrompe solo perché ti disconnetti. Le persone che descrivi purtroppo rappresentano una buona parte della base di giocatori e nulla impedisce loro di non vivere su orp dietro mille alternative. Questo è più o meno quello che fanno anche quando si stancano dei funzionari regolari. Nel mio precedente cluster ORP , uno di questi senza vita ha praticamente preso il controllo dell'intero server gen1 cercando di vendere addomesticati, spot, ecc. E aveva 5 diverse tribù alternative per diversi biomi, ecc. Un altro senza vita ha spammato tutta l'estinzione. Ogni volta che veniva lanciata una nuova mappa, una vita senza vita spammava intere sezioni della mappa con cancelli, muri e spam orped in modo che nessun altro potesse costruire o ottenere artefatti. Solo un GM che avesse giocato ogni giorno sul cluster se ne sarebbe accorto e sarebbe stato in grado di fermarlo in modo proattivo

I played on playstation both in cross EU 5 and 10 and I have never seen something like this, where I played there was room for everyone, alone I managed to beat all the bosses on the island in medium difficulty plus basic manticore, the wyvern queen and other minor bosses, I don't think I can do it in normal pvp unfortunately. 

[aikkam]

3 hours ago, Dodowhisperer said:

Ora hai capito. La simulazione non si interrompe solo perché ti disconnetti. Le persone che descrivi purtroppo rappresentano una buona parte della base di giocatori e nulla impedisce loro di non vivere su orp dietro mille alternative. Questo è più o meno quello che fanno anche quando si stancano dei funzionari regolari. Nel mio precedente cluster ORP , uno di questi senza vita ha praticamente preso il controllo dell'intero server gen1 cercando di vendere addomesticati, spot, ecc. E aveva 5 diverse tribù alternative per diversi biomi, ecc. Un altro senza vita ha spammato tutta l'estinzione. Ogni volta che veniva lanciata una nuova mappa, una vita senza vita spammava intere sezioni della mappa con cancelli, muri e spam orped in modo che nessun altro potesse costruire o ottenere artefatti. Solo un GM che avesse giocato ogni giorno sul cluster se ne sarebbe accorto e sarebbe stato in grado di fermarlo in modo proattivo

Most PVP and PVE players don't even know that the official ORP existed. Maybe if WD had publicized the ORP more, many more people would play it and there wouldn't be servers that remain half empty and there wouldn't be the creation of absurd situations like what you said. fixes like pins etc would remove other annoying issues, for the issue of foundations blocking areas they have reduced the number of structures you can place a tribe at 5500 before it was 10 times larger and may help decrease the issues you mention, certainly a GM who does his job would definitely be welcome 

[Dodowhisperer]

12 hours ago, aikkam said:

I played on playstation both in cross EU 5 and 10 and I have never seen something like this, where I played there was room for everyone, alone I managed to beat all the bosses on the island in medium difficulty plus basic manticore, the wyvern queen and other minor bosses, I don't think I can do it in normal pvp unfortunately. 

lol then either you weren't paying attention, lying, allied with the culprits or completely unaware of what was going on behind the scenes with the sad no life addicts trying to control those clusters. ORP abuse was definitely happening on those clusters and in particular RMT was a driving force behind a lot of it. If you knew, you knew.  ORP should not be implemented again until Wildcard can code better ORP abuse detection/prevention and start banning people by game license copy rather than player account.  It seems that Wildcard has elected not to even bother with ORP though and that's perfectly valid.  Trust me, its better to have no ORP at all than play the same broken variant of it.

[RealNomad]

I liked the crossark clusters. I think they offer an important alternative to players who want to play official but dont want to live in a mega. Mega life is not for everyone and those of us who like official but want to free of megas should have a place to go.  The ORP clusters were fun. Not perfect, but fun. There are some things that would need to be fixed with it but id like to see them come back.

[Mike585x]

On 12/12/2023 at 3:26 PM, aikkam said:

pvp orp is not halfway between pvp and pve. question if I attack a base with no one to defend it am I doing pvp? in my opinion no, attacking an offline base is pve nothing changes from attacking a normal wild dinosaur. only when there are active players on both sides of the conflict is it pvp, a turret or a tamed dinosaur without any player to command them is pve, we want this to be authentic pvp 

Yes. Most of the game is PvE, the only difference that makes it PvP is you can attack others and be attacked. I still believe it's "middle ground" between the two. Basically, being offline with orp is practically making your base PvE setting. 

Sweaty PvPers will just camp until you log in or kite stuff to your base like PvE anyway heh. Or use ORP to make structures invincible using multiple accounts.

Trust me, I get it though. I do hope they change their mind and give you all the ORP servers you are asking for.

I've never heard of ORP being a thing on PvP servers before, so naturally it does seem intriguing if I ever decide to step out of the safety of PvE waters. One of the main fears of PvP for us PvEers is logging in and all of our stuff is gone. Hence middle ground.

I upvoted.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Mike585x

[Joebl0w13]

1 hour ago, OldManSkeeter said:

The least they could do is publicly address the topic. 

They have. More than once. They stated they have no plans currently to add ORP servers. 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Joebl0w13

[biqone]

5 hours ago, mc58 said:

ASE we got those servers, actually 2 clusters ORP, NA and EU(crossark6 and crossark5), they also hav a high pop and got capped all the time, why we can't hav those servers back? Please Dev's bring them back. 

Please if you are a player from crossark6 or 5 back in the day, consider share this undersigned https://chng.it/RpY5zgMrqT

done

[Adolfo909]

Petition signed👍

[TeRyn]

#ORPservers

[chisme]

hola sabe alguien si van abrir servidores protection online oficiales 

[aikkam]

pvp orp server for January 24th? 

[FortnitePlayer20]

4 hours ago, aikkam said:

pvp orp server for January 24th? 

How do you know and why the 24th?

[Joebl0w13]

2 hours ago, FortnitePlayer20 said:

How do you know and why the 24th?

More servers are being released on the 24th. They are non-transfer only servers. I think that person is hoping for ORP to be included in those. I doubt they will be as WildCard has stated more than once they don't have any plans to add ORP servers. But you never know. 

[aikkam]

1 hour ago, Joebl0w13 said:

Altri server verranno rilasciati il 24. Sono server non solo di trasferimento. Penso che quella persona speri che l'ORP sia incluso in questi. Dubito che lo saranno, poiché WildCard ha affermato più di una volta che non hanno intenzione di aggiungere server ORP . Ma non si sa mai. 

exactly hope is the last thing to die 

[aikkam]

4 hours ago, FortnitePlayer20 said:

Come lo sai e perché il 24?

they moved my comment to this thread, originally written as a question under the latest community update 

[aikkam]

Is it possible to add pvp servers with orp mode? 

Edited January 20 by aikkam

[RealNomad]

On 11/1/2023 at 6:25 PM, TeRyn said:

@complexminded

 

I think the discord mod Imperial has a personal agenda against ORP servers. Every hour or so I drop in a simple respectful msg asking for orp servers.

"@dollie @complexminded Could you please add some PvP ORP servers to the official network."

I got muted for 2 hours the first time and now 6hours this time by the same mod when none of the other discord mods have warned me for "spam" in the 4-5 days i've been asking for them. Meanwhile for the past 5 days its being spammed with console news requests and now the newest for the past 8 hours its been nothing but different styles of writing "soon" yet i'm flagged for spam when its every hour or so, way past the chat timer.

 

 

 People who are prejudice dont deserve a place in any online community.  Someone may be in trouble... 

Edited February 6 by RealNomad

[freak2984]

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