Introducing Classic PvP Season 6!

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Classic PvP Season 6 launches on the 15th of December 2022! 

In 2019, the launch of the Snail Games Initiative, Classic PvP, created an exciting and competitive playing experience for PC players. Throughout the course of the seasons, the meta was watched closely and changes were made to shake things up and create an experience tailored for PvP gameplay. Continue on the quest for the ultimate PvP experience with the introduction of Classic PvP Season 6!

• Experience gain, taming, gathering have been quintupled compared to our standard Official Servers (5x)
• Breeding, hatching, and raising rates have been quadrupled compared to our standard Official Servers (4x)
• Tribes are set to 25 players max
• Tribe alliances are disabled, though informal alliances are allowed
• Servers have a maximum player count of 100
• These maps will be available: The Island, Scorched Earth, Ragnarok, Lost Island, Valguero, and The Center
• Tek dinos (Tek Parasaur, Tek Quetzal, Tek Rex, Tek Raptor, Tek Stego), Paracer, Tapejara, and the Titanosaur are not available for taming on Classic PvP
• All Aberration, Extinction, Genesis Part 1, and Genesis Part 2 content is unavailable on Classic PvP
• Scaling of weapon damage has been reduced
• No TEK Engrams
• No cave building
• Cryopods enabled
• Tamed Stegosaurus Resistance reduced by 35%
• Tamed Quetzal Resistance reduced by 20%
• Tamed Wyvern Resistance reduced by 20%
• Tamed Wyvern Damage reduced by 20%
• Reaper Queen added to the Valguero Aberration Zone

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[XandrewZ]

you hate your console community 

[Murhrk]

All Aberration, Extinction, Genesis Part 1, and Genesis Part 2 content is unavailable on Classic PvP. Does this mean no nets. If so then thank you snailgames.

[Cortananeverdie]

pls disable gigas for classic ,,,,,,, classic need more dinos for use spinos , rex , therys, wolly  more dinos and no only giga .............. PLS disable GIGAS for classic

 

[ThePikafan]

2 minutes ago, Cortananeverdie said:

pls disable gigas for classic ,,,,,,, classic need more dinos for use spinos , rex , therys, wolly  more dinos and no only giga .............. PLS disable GIGAS for classic

 

100% Agreed but all the bobs need Gigas as a Golem counter lmao

[Evilwhynot]

Please disable gigas for classic season 6 as others have suggested

[StupidOtters]

Please disable Gigas!! I have been playing every season since the first and Gigas have ruined any opportunity for other heavy hitters to be viable. 

 

No one uses rexes, spinos, allos, brontos. Season One was incredible for the diversity in pvp!!! 

[acat]

As others said before, pls disable gigas! It makes so many dinos useless, its just boring. For the last season it would be cool to go back to what classic used to be. No gigas and no quetzals, no nets and obviously also no carchas. actual classic please!

 

[Dombro]

[SabaTsk]

As others have said, please remove gigas it ruins every other land pvp dino so the game only becomes gigas no other opportunity for rexes theries thylas spinos brontos etc

Thanks.

[Los7]

Please disable Gigas!! I have been playing every season since the first and Gigas have ruined any opportunity for other heavy hitters to be viable. 

 

No one uses rexes, spinos, allos, brontos. Season One was incredible for the diversity in pvp!!! 

[ThePikafan]

Just for clarification in case you guys (Snailgames) somehow misinterpret the comments, when we say we want Gigas removed we also want Carchars removed. Nobody even mentioned them but this season already seems like it has them enabled as part of the ''new meta change''. Carchars will absolutely ruin the meta because they're just faster Gigas that don't rage. Please don't ruin the last classic season of Ark 1's lifetime. Classic season 2 was the golden age of the game. Every dino was useable in open world pvp and you could win if you were good. 
 

Another point to get rid of Gigas and Carchars: Classic is advertised as a competitive cluster. The higher the skill gap is the more competitive the server is. Gigas and Carchars are 2 of the least skill based dinos in the game. Anyone can left click. In classic s2 you were rewarded for being good at flier pvp and foot pvp, both of which require a lot more skill than left clicking with a big dinosaur.

Edited December 1, 2022 by ThePikafan

[Ezketit]

Confirm the picture! Please remove the gigas! We want old classic PvP and we also want to use rexes, spinos, allos, carnos in PvP! But they are useless as long as there are gigs on the cluster!

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Ezketit

[Cyberrick]

Nobody want Removed Gigas and Carchas i disagree with the comments before. Season 1 was without gigas and it went pretty fast boring and people quit early. It need take tons of time take out enemy dinos und ruin the gameplay running only with allos and tyhas to counter golems. Classic is good how it is. Or atleast when gigas removed the Rex etc must be damaged buffed.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Cyberrick

[QueenOfTheProm]

Do people really think that if they return the old settings, old online will return? A lot of things have changed since then. Now classic need gigas and everything else, except nets ofc.

[acat]

What they call classic here is really just a no tek cluster without cave building… 

[ThePikafan]

1 hour ago, Cyberrick said:

Nobody want Removed Gigas and Carchas i disagree with the comments before. Season 1 was without gigas and it went pretty fast boring and people quit early. It need take tons of time take out enemy dinos und ruin the gameplay running only with allos and tyhas to counter golems. Classic is good how it is. Or atleast when gigas removed the Rex etc must be damaged buffed.

Name 1 thing that goes to poop if Classic goes back to season 2 rules, you can't. There are plenty of counters to Golems as long as Mammoth buff is removed (Weight grapple, picking, stacking bleed from multiple bleed dinos etc, cannon(does like 3k pr shot), etc), and you actually need to be good to win open world fights without Gigas. The last few seasons of Classic has only had 1 thing matter for pushing: Giga melee. It sucks all of the skill out of the meta. With Mammoth buff enabled you can't even use fliers or anything to help win the Giga fight because you can't pick them, so whoever rolls the luckiest wild Giga melee wins the season.
You're saying it ruins the gameplay because it takes tons of time to take out enemy dinos, but the only dinos that even take time to kill in the classic meta are Gigas, Golems and Reapers(Maybe Stegos but they have nerfed resistance). If Reapers and Gigas are removed the damage scaling fixes itself, Spinos and other land dinos will kill each other at a similar pace to how Gigas do since they have much less hp. The only dino that doesn't instantly die is Golems, but not being able to counter them is a skill issue not a balancing issue. 
Removing the big munch munch dinosaurs that have no counters is what everyone (except you) wants.
They tried seasons with them, now people are giving their feedback.

(Classic season 2 also had servers with reaching 100 pop less than a month before it wiped. The ruleset worked and everyone loved it. Season 3 and onwards has had much lower pop even though the game has had similar player counts up until last year where Gen 2 killed it.)

Ok I ended up writing an essay lol, if you have any arguments against my argument here I'll gladly explain to you why you're wrong.  

[Griffin998]

21 hours ago, Murhrk said:

Does this mean no nets. If so then thank you snailgames.

Yep! Nets came with Gen 2. Therefore, no nets (makes lots of sense).

[T21]

22 hours ago, ThePikafan said:

Remove net engram(pretty sure removing gen 2 content does that, just making sure) and disable mammoth buff, otherwise W season

Leaving Gigas, Reapers and Quetz enabled is acceptable but the entire community would much rather have old classic back without Gigas making every other land dino useless. If you're worried about golems being too strong without Gigas like all the bobs said before season 3, you can just make them take normal damage from all dinos but leave their turret resistance so Gigas aren't needed.

This is not meant as spam, rather a campaign to make Snailgames listen to us. SurviveTheArk mods please refrain from deleting all messages with this poster. It's on topic here. 

Git good

[StupidOtters]

17 hours ago, Cyberrick said:

Nobody want Removed Gigas and Carchas i disagree with the comments before. Season 1 was without gigas and it went pretty fast boring and people quit early. It need take tons of time take out enemy dinos und ruin the gameplay running only with allos and tyhas to counter golems. Classic is good how it is. Or atleast when gigas removed the Rex etc must be damaged buffed.

Saying nobody wants gigas removed is simply false. Look how many comments say to remove them. 

Golems are easy to counter without gigas. Rockets, argy picks, gas nades, grapples--all other examples aside from allos and thylas to counter them. 

There is nothing fulfilling in meat running someone's base with just a giga or two. It should be difficult and rewarding on both the attacking and defending sides. 

Edited December 2, 2022 by StupidOtters

[GamerMan]

език я твой подписчик 

 

[JMC]

Remove gigas. There needs to be a skill gap in competitive pvp game modes not a bunch of bobs holding giga lines for hours. There is so many stackable bleeds. Let us utilise a larger range of dps tames!

to add to the skill gap list also disable:

-net gun engram (that comes with lost island).

-mammoth buff.

-quetzal platform build limit - to prevent 90% damage immune quetzals.

-disable reaper

tribes should be forced to outskill in classic not abuse a 5 tame meta.

[25manftw]

Dear Snailgames.

Please no giga/carchar, quetz and reaper. 
 

We want a more diverse PVP lineup for classic, just imagine a big fight with theries, spinos and rhinos clashing!  
#alldinolivesmatter

[Yvola]

Please remove mamoth buff, gigas & carcha, reapers, nets, tek rifle, these all make the meta horrible. Its supposed to be "classic" like old times ark, please make it more fun by removing these few things.

[Cyberrick]

18 hours ago, ThePikafan said:

Name 1 thing that goes to poop if Classic goes back to season 2 rules, you can't. There are plenty of counters to Golems as long as Mammoth buff is removed (Weight grapple, picking, stacking bleed from multiple bleed dinos etc, cannon(does like 3k pr shot), etc), and you actually need to be good to win open world fights without Gigas. The last few seasons of Classic has only had 1 thing matter for pushing: Giga melee. It sucks all of the skill out of the meta. With Mammoth buff enabled you can't even use fliers or anything to help win the Giga fight because you can't pick them, so whoever rolls the luckiest wild Giga melee wins the season.
You're saying it ruins the gameplay because it takes tons of time to take out enemy dinos, but the only dinos that even take time to kill in the classic meta are Gigas, Golems and Reapers(Maybe Stegos but they have nerfed resistance). If Reapers and Gigas are removed the damage scaling fixes itself, Spinos and other land dinos will kill each other at a similar pace to how Gigas do since they have much less hp. The only dino that doesn't instantly die is Golems, but not being able to counter them is a skill issue not a balancing issue. 
Removing the big munch munch dinosaurs that have no counters is what everyone (except you) wants.
They tried seasons with them, now people are giving their feedback.

(Classic season 2 also had servers with reaching 100 pop less than a month before it wiped. The ruleset worked and everyone loved it. Season 3 and onwards has had much lower pop even though the game has had similar player counts up until last year where Gen 2 killed it.)

Ok I ended up writing an essay lol, if you have any arguments against my argument here I'll gladly explain to you why you're wrong.  

The most people said how boring it was without gigas and how long it took to take down enemys golems etc. For me i dont care atleast the game is balanced and there is fun.