sjskdjkfa Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I just barrel rolled with my lvl 35 ptera going from main land to herb and was lucky to get to one of the little islets. I kinda doubt it even increases speed. But even if it does it takes out way to much stam for what it boosts in speed. All in all it's only a melee thing not a transport thing, imop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted August 6, 2022 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, sjskdjkfa said: I just barrel rolled with my lvl 35 ptera going from main land to herb and was lucky to get to one of the little islets. I kinda doubt it even increases speed. But even if it does it takes out way to much stam for what it boosts in speed. All in all it's only a melee thing not a transport thing, imop. Not sure if trolling.... The roll is an attack, not a travel method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjskdjkfa Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Joebl0w13 said: Not sure if trolling.... The roll is an attack, not a travel method. it's been recomended as a travel method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted August 6, 2022 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted August 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, sjskdjkfa said: it's been recomended as a travel method By, whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, sjskdjkfa said: I just barrel rolled with my lvl 35 ptera going from main land to herb and was lucky to get to one of the little islets. I kinda doubt it even increases speed. But even if it does it takes out way to much stam for what it boosts in speed. All in all it's only a melee thing not a transport thing, imop. Its a recommended tactic from the past in stealing wyvern nest eggs. That's usually done with bred pteras with stamina pumped really high. One thing you learn early on is how much points matter with low level tames. If there's one great way to learn that, its play on a beginner server. Try to get a level 1 Ptera back to base after taming one there. BUt no, a level 35 ptera is only for searching for a level 150. It should not be used to barrel roll across the divide to herbivore island. I'd suggest , pump up your character's oxygen to 300 and you probably can outswim any predators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 9 hours ago, sjskdjkfa said: All in all it's only a melee thing not a transport thing, imop. True, it's not supposed to be a transport thing. The purpose for a barrel roll is that it allows pteranodons to attack targets that you would never want to attack by normal mouse clicking, and alone makes it a very powerful maneuver. Using nothing but barrel rolls (combined with good tactics and some patience) pteranodons can kill Alpha Raptors. Pretty powerful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 7 hours ago, sjskdjkfa said: it's been recomended as a travel method Whoever said that was either pulling your leg or just honestly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllOfTheAllos Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Barrel roll, as others said, is an attack. It's for harming the enemy. It can be used for a short burst of speed on a good stam ptera. Like, if you get a high level with decent wild stam and further level it until, like 1000 - go ahead, barrel roll. But a 35? Just fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjskdjkfa Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 8 hours ago, AllOfTheAllos said: Barrel roll, as others said, is an attack. It's for harming the enemy. It can be used for a short burst of speed on a good stam ptera. Like, if you get a high level with decent wild stam and further level it until, like 1000 - go ahead, barrel roll. But a 35? Just fly. I did some tests in single player. Spawned one in with over 6k stam just over kill. Here's my data captued with a margin of error of several seconds (cause it's just me somewhat carless with a stopwatch): ptera tests slow fly 5980stam left -6525=545stam used red ob to green dist? took 9:28 but flighted about for several seconds tryin to decide shorter path lol, call it 9:20 maybe fast fly 5130-=1395 = 2.5x as much 3:16 =~ 3x less spamming b roll 3222-=3300 =2.3xfst fly, = 6x slow fly 2:32-= ~30+20=50ish sec faster than fast fly 9.5min/2.5min = ~ 4x faster than slow fly So at least it's true it will get u there a little faster. But it uses disproportionately more stam to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted August 7, 2022 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, sjskdjkfa said: So at least it's true it will get u there a little faster. But it uses disproportionately more stam to do that. As designed. Pretty sure they didn't have 6k stam pteras in mind when they released them. Man I miss the days of leveling them in speed and crossing the island in seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxplanck58 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 "Barrel roll totally sucks as a means to get from point a to b!" Not surprisingly, it is also true for most aircraft and flying creatures (real-life versions, that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prikolyasik Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Ptera is pretty useless right now, while wildcard added crystal wyverns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Prikolyasik said: Ptera is pretty useless right now, while wildcard added crystal wyverns! Its a starter mount. It wasn't intended to be an end all be all flyer. After you move on to higher level stuff, you shed them quite fast. They are still really handy to use when a new map opens up, you are back to starting fresh and therefore they become useful again for a week. 2 weeks tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard03 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 12:18 AM, sjskdjkfa said: I just barrel rolled with my lvl 35 ptera going from main land to herb and was lucky to get to one of the little islets. I kinda doubt it even increases speed. But even if it does it takes out way to much stam for what it boosts in speed. All in all it's only a melee thing not a transport thing, imop. Same here. Iv killed an alpha raptor using it with guerilla warfare tactics, but as for a speed boost, it only helps to get you up to speed from take off. Not to get across the map as fast as possible because you will just be waiting for stam to regen all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicSkeleton Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 9:27 AM, Pipinghot said: Whoever said that was either pulling your leg or just honestly wrong. As grumpy said back in the day it was a viable means of getting distance from a threat, namely a pissed off wyvern or a player in an aerial dogfight. Pre whistle to land era it was also something that could be used when you were low on stamina and needed a little push to land somewhere safe as opposed to ending up in magma or the ocean (had the latter happen to me on the center once trying to get to the volcano spin saved me). It's not supposed to be a stable transport method like OP assumed it would be, especially not on such a low level animal. Even if it were an imprinted one from a stamina mutation line with a pure stamina pump it would be painfully inefficient at best and mind numbingly stupid at worst to use a pteranodon like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 hours ago, CosmicSkeleton said: It's not supposed to be a stable transport method like OP assumed it would be Right, which is the context of my reply. Thanks for... reinforcing what I said, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicSkeleton Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Pipinghot said: Right, which is the context of my reply. Thanks for... reinforcing what I said, I guess. The bulk of that was moreso for OP as opposed to you. I was just too lazy to try to split it at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 10:36 PM, sjskdjkfa said: it's been recomended as a travel method Maybe by someone who wants to put you in the middle of the sea. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewbawl Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 4:12 AM, CosmicSkeleton said: Even if it were an imprinted one from a stamina mutation line with a pure stamina pump it would be painfully inefficient at best and mind numbingly stupid at worst to use a pteranodon like that. i agree with everyone here that it wasn't intended to be used as part of general travel, but i disagree with this statement. a friend on my server (private valguero server, no speed changes made) found a pteronadon that after tame had a stamina of 44. he loves those things like crazy. he bumps there stamina up to about 1k, which takes about 27 points. he puts the rest in health and weight carry. he is able to fast fly and barrel roll about half way across the map before he has to rest for stamina. i am only SLIGHTLY faster on an ice wyvern fast flying. he doesn't like the bulky size or poor turn radius of a wyvern, and doesn't need the weight carry or horrible slow speed of an argentavis. i got one of the children from his breeding exploits and yes, it's fast but i want different things from my flying mount. in the end, i guess all i'm saying is... it works for him and it's not that crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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