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42 minutes ago, TheNamesRat said:

your giga will lose like 1/4 - 1/3 of its health but you'll win, especially if you're imprinted. its not really the damage from the bite that hurts that much on wild gigas, its the stupidly overpowered bleed.

Not really. My giga with similar stats only has an 80 armor saddle and it loses 5k-6k health maximum.

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56 minutes ago, TheNamesRat said:

your giga will lose like 1/4 - 1/3 of its health but you'll win, especially if you're imprinted. its not really the damage from the bite that hurts that much on wild gigas, its the stupidly overpowered bleed.

You can prevent bleed by feeding your giga wyvern milk. Useful if you don’t have an owl to heal or are using a wimpy giga

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Interdasting....I was thinking of useing a whole herd of tamed gigas with those stats just to make sure I didn't have to deal with rage mode. Of course I also considered 100 C4's, but when the resource run considerations was made, I just gave up and started drowning them. 

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3 hours ago, TheNamesRat said:

if its under 500 melee, i'm fairly sure you'll lose.

They hatch with like 800 mele and it gets to 900 with full imprint (that is not counting the bonus for being ridden by the imprinted rider, I am just not set up on the other server to raise things as well as I am on the other)

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I just killed a couple wild corrupted giggas yesterday, first one was a level 40. It didn't even get the chance to bite before I wasted it. Second one was a level 90, this one got a few bites in and I started sweating it, but I got it. Bleed effect is a thing, but I came out with over 60% health. Primitive saddle, but imprinted. Same stats

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On my Gen2 base (where my tribemate and I have decided to just use animals we have personally tamed/bred, rather than importing our uber lines from other servers) we routinely kill wild r-gigas with mate boosted pair of first gen r-gigas with about 350% melee. What's rather odd is that about half the time the wild gigas will turn and run, letting us bite them in the butt and kill them with almost no damage taken. If they stand and fight then whichever of our gigas is facing the pointy end will usually end up taking like 30 to 40% damage. 

 

Had a real scary incident the other day, were another player was doing something with a skiff and it glitched a wild giga right over our metal gate wall around our base. Thankfully, the rex pile we had outside was able to slow it down while my tribemate flew over real fast to hop onto a giga (that was just far enough away to miss the call to battle, of course) and rush over to finish it. No losses, but several of the rexes were down to less than a 1000 hp (out of like 25k to 30k). We are currently replacing the metal gates with behemouth ones. 

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11 hours ago, wizard03 said:

I just killed a couple wild corrupted giggas yesterday, first one was a level 40. It didn't even get the chance to bite before I wasted it. Second one was a level 90, this one got a few bites in and I started sweating it, but I got it. Bleed effect is a thing, but I came out with over 60% health. Primitive saddle, but imprinted. Same stats

Corrupted Gigas dont apply bleed. So they are way less dangerous than ordinary gigas.

On 10/4/2021 at 9:33 PM, TheNamesRat said:

if its under 500 melee, i'm fairly sure you'll lose.

Nah, I used to have Gigas with melee about that (+-450) on Hardcore servers. I was able to kill the wild ones, even high level ones. But you do want to have the imprint as rider. But yeah, under 500 melee and its not really fun to fight wild gigas, one big lagspike and you might get wrecked, either way your giga is going to get bleedy as hell.

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4 hours ago, hud said:

When killing corrupted gigas usually u don't lose any hp. 2 bites and giga already rage, few more and giga is dead. On official. I m not sure about meele, I think it is 2.5k.

I think the corrupted have lower health also, they are nowehere close to normal gigas. So yes absolutely, if your giga is born out of a somewhat modern PvE breedingline they are a piece of cake. Not sure if PvP has these lines also but I cant imagen them beeing even close to the stats on PvE giga lines.

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17 minutes ago, SunsetErosion said:

I think the corrupted have lower health also, they are nowehere close to normal gigas. So yes absolutely, if your giga is born out of a somewhat modern PvE breedingline they are a piece of cake. Not sure if PvP has these lines also but I cant imagen them beeing even close to the stats on PvE giga lines.

Well I think they are pretty close with meele, only legacy is left far behind

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Im going to say that it is indeed possible, but you better have your best saddle on, and you may want to have an escape plan if your giga enrages.

The whole run on this was super in my favor. I had a single player ascendant grade saddle {300% armor}, a couple metal spikes to help, and the one I killed was only a level 15.

Is it possible? With a bred and imprinted giga, best saddle, and a massive leveling run, yes. Can you do with primitive saddles, maybe. Send in a distraction steggo and try to sneak up behind it.

Would I recommend a junk non imprinted primitive saddle? OH HAIL NO!
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Attribute Base Value Level Increase Taming Bonus
Wild Tamed Additive Multiplicative
30?cb=20150615171303 Health 80000 +40 +0.04% -63000  
30?cb=20150615171314 Stamina 400 +0.2 +1%    
30?cb=20150615171338 Oxygen 150 +0.375 +2.5%    
30?cb=20150615171352 Food 4000 +10 +2.5%    
30?cb=20150615171409 Weight 700 +7 +1%    
30?cb=20150615171422 Melee Damage 500 +25 +0.85% -80% (ETDM: 80%)
30?cb=20150615171505 Movement Speed 100% N/A +0.31%    
30?cb=20181126054540 Torpidity 10000 +600 N/A    

 

I don't get it - by what jiggery pokery can a tamed giga even think of going at a wild one? minus 63k health on tame, minus 80% damage on tame.  There should be no contest - Lvl 1 wild should destroy Lvl 150 tamed. Unless I ain't counting in the effect of a saddle (or the wiki is bust)

 

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16 minutes ago, DirkInSA said:
Attribute Base Value Level Increase Taming Bonus
Wild Tamed Additive Multiplicative
30?cb=20150615171303 Health 80000 +40 +0.04% -63000  
30?cb=20150615171314 Stamina 400 +0.2 +1%    
30?cb=20150615171338 Oxygen 150 +0.375 +2.5%    
30?cb=20150615171352 Food 4000 +10 +2.5%    
30?cb=20150615171409 Weight 700 +7 +1%    
30?cb=20150615171422 Melee Damage 500 +25 +0.85% -80% (ETDM: 80%)
30?cb=20150615171505 Movement Speed 100% N/A +0.31%    
30?cb=20181126054540 Torpidity 10000 +600 N/A    

 

I don't get it - by what jiggery pokery can a tamed giga even think of going at a wild one? minus 63k health on tame, minus 80% damage on tame.  There should be no contest - Lvl 1 wild should destroy Lvl 150 tamed. Unless I ain't counting in the effect of a saddle (or the wiki is bust)

 

Tamed isn't even a question here.

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