DaRyuujin Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 So just curious, have the devs said anything about adding in a large wall engram? You know so everybody isn't surrounding their bases with behemoth gates haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeZX Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 5 hours ago, DaRyuujin said: So just curious, have the devs said anything about adding in a large wall engram? You know so everybody isn't surrounding their bases with behemoth gates haha For esthetics I just put a few down for entrance to my base and completed my perimeter walls like 5-6 rows high using either wood or stone. My base is quit big, it's modular expanded regularly, so it isn't the nicest around, but it works. And since it is a 'survival' game (well at least when you start) I refuse to build big Barbie palaces or huge castles like some people do. But at least I don't have horrible walls made of behemoth gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMitch24 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, NukeZX said: For esthetics I just put a few down for entrance to my base and completed my perimeter walls like 5-6 rows high using either wood or stone. My base is quit big, it's modular expanded regularly, so it isn't the nicest around, but it works. And since it is a 'survival' game (well at least when you start) I refuse to build big Barbie palaces or huge castles like some people do. But at least I don't have horrible walls made of behemoth gates. Do you think doing it this way is cheaper material wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRyuujin Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, NukeZX said: For esthetics I just put a few down for entrance to my base and completed my perimeter walls like 5-6 rows high using either wood or stone. My base is quit big, it's modular expanded regularly, so it isn't the nicest around, but it works. And since it is a 'survival' game (well at least when you start) I refuse to build big Barbie palaces or huge castles like some people do. But at least I don't have horrible walls made of behemoth gates. We play on a pve server so we aren't worried about having a big base we just want one big enough to fit everything we want w/o it being crammed. We were lucky enough to get some ruins claimed and allied with a tribe who is on the other side of our ruins tunnel so it worked out great. Unfortunately that's a high traffic giga area so in order for us to make it so a giga cant air drop off a cliff into our area we have to wall off a good bit above us on top of on the ground to close us off. To do that with walls high enough to stop a giga would be a.....daunting task both in the number of walls needed and the resources to do so. It's either use up a nice chunk of our tribes structure limit and a crazy amount of resources and what i imagine is a lot of base lag to wall it off with a proper wall. Or do what SO many tribes big and small do, make a gate wall. I for one would MUCH rather have a large wall, even if it costs slightly more than a gateway/gate does to be able to build and place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornedfrog85 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 27 minutes ago, CMitch24 said: Do you think doing it this way is cheaper material wise? We use walls 6 high becouse a ramshackle rpg will destroy a b gate in 1 / 2 shots and poof every dino that the attacker has can enter you base. With walls they have to use more ammo and plan their shots to make a big enough hole to fit dinos through. Although lag is insane when you have a large base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevalierknight Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 my tribe never use gates as walls we use fence walls with door frames at the top and run a walk way along it so we can stop raids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeZX Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 7 hours ago, CMitch24 said: Do you think doing it this way is cheaper material wise? material cost isn't important on a PVE server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock98 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 lol we have a wall 26 behemoth gates long, if there was a wall section engram roughly the same size i would use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, NukeZX said: material cost isn't important on a PVE server. Why not? Oh right , you play pvp so everyone else is inferior? Child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRyuujin Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, NukeZX said: material cost isn't important on a PVE server. It's still important. A walls defense is less important on PVE however you still have to gather rss to build and depending on the size of your tribe/project RSS can matter alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock98 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 hours ago, NukeZX said: material cost isn't important on a PVE server. sure it is, PVE is fun, but building everyday all day will burn you out. plus the gates hold off the tons of Rex's and Giga's on the outside of my gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRyuujin Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 A behemoth gate is about what, 7 walls wide? And like I unno 12 high. So making a stone wall 7 wide and just 5 high would cost like 1400 stone, compared to the 900 for a gateway/door. So when building large walls the gateway/door method is TONS cheaper than building walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock98 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, DaRyuujin said: A behemoth gate is about what, 7 walls wide? And like I unno 12 high. So making a stone wall 7 wide and just 5 high would cost like 1400 stone, compared to the 900 for a gateway/door. So when building large walls the gateway/door method is TONS cheaper than building walls. and less lag and less items to put down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 25, 2016 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Grimlock98 said: and less lag and less items to put down Much, much less lag. And you can enter/exit at any part of your base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DmpTrkDrvr Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 hours ago, d1nk said: Why not? Oh right , you play pvp so everyone else is inferior? Child. UM I doubt that. IT'S because No one steals your stuff or kills your tames, so it tends to be easier also You can collect over several day nd save up for a big object.. D1nk sometimes your attitude pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornedfrog85 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 25 minutes ago, Joebl0w13 said: Much, much less lag. And you can enter/exit at any part of your base. And anyone that raids you can open a huge hole in you "walls".... Walking giga right into your base... Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 25, 2016 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2016 Just now, Hornedfrog85 said: And anyone that raids you can open a huge hole in you "walls".... Walking giga right into your base... Easy PVE. Not bothered by angsty teens that were picked on in school too much and taking it out on people with pixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornedfrog85 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Joebl0w13 said: PVE. Not bothered by angsty teens that were picked on in school too much and taking it out on people with pixels. Sad comment, not all players are such. pve point is to make nice buildings and tames? Whats nice about a bunch of ugly gates all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 25, 2016 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Hornedfrog85 said: Whats nice about a bunch of ugly gates all over the place. Aesthetics are subjective. I think they look awesome. And more importantly to me, super convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornedfrog85 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Joebl0w13 said: Aesthetics are subjective. I think they look awesome. And more importantly to me, super convenient. Now who's the teen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 25, 2016 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2016 Just now, Hornedfrog85 said: Now who's the teen. The person that doesn't seem to understand what subjective means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock98 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Joebl0w13 said: Much, much less lag. And you can enter/exit at any part of your base. i do like that option as well. i also didnt want to put 182 fence foundations and over 2k walls lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theocrates Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Well since you are playing on Officials I would guess you are S.O.L until Wildcard gets around to adding them in but this mod does walls, as well as the Advanced Architecture mod which would let you build battlements atop the walls and corner towers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 This suggestion has been made so many times even before this website existed (on steam). I would certainly hope someone's been listening... One important thing to point out is that get your "large wall" destroyed by attackers and they can walk a tanking bronto or a giga right into your base. It's the same problem as having behemoth gates, except it will at least look so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioActiveMan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The main reason I use B-gates for fences is to reduce lag. Go up to a large fence of walls that is as high as a B-gate, and it lags like crazy. I would love to see some larger Wall type objects, even something that was say the size of a Dino gate (4x2) would be welcome. Maybe also some dedicated 'Fence' objects to provide more fence looks without being an actual wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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