Genesis part 2 Suggestions

[Udam]

Theses are just some ideas for the map. some sound extrema, some not so much! lets start with the lesser things
 

Spawns

• Crabs: Spawn all over the ocean Biome, and can spawn in the south part of Rockwell's garden but Rarely in the norther part
• Bigfoots: Spawn in the Eden zone
• Morellatops: Spawn in the Rockwells garden and rarely in the Eden zone. Spawn in packs 
• Thorny dragon: Spawn more in the rockwell zone rather then just being stuck in the far North and south
• Procoptodon: Spawns more in the eden zone. mostly around Hills
• Bees: Can spawn more often, rather then just 3 per map.
• Megalania: Spawns in the rockwell zone
• Megalosaurus: Spawn in Both areas but In the rockwell zone they are always awake.
• Moth: Spawn in both areas more
• Pelagorn: Spawns in the eden zone lakes
• Vultures: Spawn all over the rockwell zone
• Basilisk: Can spawn in the rockwell garden but rarely. Can spawn more in the meat zone. 
• Reapers: Reaper kings can spawn on the surface in the rockwell zone at night so it adds more danger, But queens only spawn in the meat zone. 
• Snails: Spawn all over the rockwell garden but can spawn in the more swampy areas in the Eden zone
• All Robots: Spawn all over the Tek bridges so Defense units, Enforcers, scouts and even striders can spawn more in those areas 
   

1. Defenders/Defense units: Can spawn more, are Friendly to you and all robots but will attack you if a scout points you out
2. Enforcers: Same but are faster and spawn more
3. Attack drones: They fly around the tek bridge and they are friendly but again if you make them bad or make a scout mad, then they will attack  
4. Scouts: Spawn all OVER the tek bridges keeping a eye out for everything
5. styiders: they will be friendly but if a scout gets mad then the pulse ones will start attacking you! 

Items: these are Just some improvements with some of the items from gen 2.  if i didn't list something then its ok if not let me know

• Canoe: Able to gather fish with a fishing basket while ridding a canoe, Fish in Baskets Last 3xs longer in the Canoe, able to keep and unlock all the skins for the Canoes
• Net projectiles: Able to load on the Ballista for a poor mans Chain bola
• Tek crop plot: Able to get a Green house buff Even when underground, X plants grown from it turn into a Shotgun style (they shoot more for the same price)
• Hoversail: Passenger able to uses a Lance
• Tek Surveillance Console: Able to Way Point all cameras so you can retrieve them (More on the Camera itself) 

1. Camera: Able to turn on Thermal mode, Able to open doors, turn on turrets, can set to Spyglass mode (allows you to see level, name, stats etc), Able to turn on lights, etc

• Minigun: Able to uses Advance Pistol rounds as ammo (Does the same damage), but you can Load Advance rifle bullets to deal more damage!
• Jar and Pitch: Can load it to a calico to throw
• Tek Canteen: Able to keep the water when you change modes
• R-Seeds: Able to find some that grow Chitin/Keratin (R-6), Some that grow hide (R-7)
• Mutagel: Able to find the blue stones in the Space biome during White drops, around the stones (they give more overall but can find more)  

 

Tames: this is not really a TLC but some improvments and some lesses buffs.

• Tek Stryder: (this is more of a Buff for the tools its self rather then the whole robot itself)

1. Pulse cannon: Deals 15 damage now and adds more damage over time (Up to 55) OR it can be more like the Phase pistol where it shoots Laser at a short range and adds up damage over time, it deals 7 damage but the max is 50 and it Burns through power.
2. Silence Cannon Rig: Turns off all Special ability's for the target you shot at (Like Yuty roars, Rock golem rock throw, etc)
3. Shield Projector Rig: Adds extra armor to near by allies
    

• Astrodelphis: Light Debuff and Buff:

1. Lasers: Deal Much less damage and have less range but fire at a Machine gun like rate, rather then *Pew....pew...pew...pew* now its more *PewPewpepwpepwepwpepwppepwpepwepepwpepwepwpewpepwpewpw* the base shot does 50 damage, tier 2 will deal 100, and then last is 150 damage.
2. Plasma shots: (the homing shot). Does slightly less But adds a (Electrical stun effect) slows down the target buy 15%. (cool down for 30 secs before next stun). (able to Fire 8 shots before needing a cool down) Takes 45 secs!
3. able to breath underwater due to the saddle (so long as its powered)
    

• Shadowmane: Light buff, Light debuff, breeding, keep rexs and others as a role
   

1. to dismount a Player you need to aim at them and it only stuns and Dismounts the Player, but if you want to stop the dino, the hit it. Can chain up to them though.
2. assassin attack does more damage when Riding solo (due to stealth), but it when in a Pack the Power attack will deal MUCH less damage but adds a Bleed like effect due to the pack. (so it can be better if you uses solo but also good when in a group)
3.  Thornmail only stacks up 3 times rather then 5 (Kinda Crazy IMO due to the fact that if a shadowmane and a shadowmane are fighting it will take 60 years to end!)
4. Armor can Degrade overtime but it will recharge over time (The Higher the armor the longer it takes (at most a Hour and 30 mins to fully recharge the Max Cap of armor) (will uses the Stego shed partials to tell you that its broken, will stop to tell you that its ok) (Side note: Bathing in water cuts the cool down by half) (It kinda works as a Stat bar where when you take damage, it goes down and over time it comes back, even in the heat of combat! looks like the fortitude sign)
5. Males able to do the Light roar buff when alone
    

• Voidwyrm: A light buff and again a light debuff

1. Stun attack has a Timer before it can dismount again... 1 min timer
    

• Noglin: Spawn more in the rockwell garden, in the North part and the center! Can spawn at level 190 to make up for not breeding and clonin
   
• Summoner: makes more a presents and uses other a Flying Eye!

1. When killed they can drop Mutagel (small amount but still some!) (Higher the level the more you can get! (MAX IS 50)
2. drops element shards, chittin, Prime meat, rotten meat.. etc for killing them too!) 
    

• Exo mek: Buffs mostly 

1. Remove level now its like the Skiff where it has No level
2. Has 10K HP cuz 2000 is VERY LOW!
3. Able to Do slam on the ground when in mid air!
4. AOE slam does More damage
5. EVA mode: when in the water or space you can enter EVA mode, you can Hover up and it only uses the Pickup and Carry mode
6. Moving on the sloped ground works like the tek boots!

EXO armor: my idea of the armor is more toned down version so things like flyers can be used more on the map

• Helmet: uses 50% less O2 rather then Unlimited o2, Gas can effect you still, The Mode of the helmet is now a Large flashlight on the head (As wide as a charge lamp Light)
• Gloves: Gathering is less for them, deals MUCH less damage but adds a Stun effect that slows down the target you punched! 
• Chestplate: Allows you to Jump higher with the Jet boost but not able to "FLY". now it would work more like a Jump pack, where you Jump higher and you gain ground from descending slowly to the ground (you can still take fall damage if not careful) Able to also do a Jump thrust but has a cool down, However you can move faster Underwater like the Normal tek suit.
• Leggings: Gives a speed boost (NOT SUPER SPEED!), able to move when your too heavy, gives better jump too.
• Boots: Allow you to move on sloped ground but the boots don't save you from fall damage, Only take 50% less.
• ALL PARTS: have durability so it can break OVER TIME (Can get Back if you search in supply drops OR DIE you get one 100% the time) !. gives little to No insulation, and only to help you get around the map) 

Map itself: No major changes but some things to make both harder and easier

• Adds vary temperature

1. Eden zone, south of the Eden zone is more on the warmer side while the Norther part is more colder. (Heat waves and Cold fronts can happen over time)
2. Space: ITS STUPID COLD AT NIGHT, BUT SUPER HOT AT NIGHT! just like the lunar in Gen 2
3. Rockwell zone. More on the extreme side, day can be Hot or cold, and Night can be Cold or Hot!
4. Meat zone: Nice a Warm!

• Space resources

1. More metal spawns, White drops can have Blue Mutagel stones as well as the mutagel and amberglits stones, Silcant stones spawns all over space  

 

R-Dinos!: Some more R- types of dinos! and some changes to some others!

• All Velios on the map spawn as R-Versons in the rockwell Garden
• All Sloths spawn as R-Versons in the Eden zone

new types of R-Dinos

• R-Direbear: Spawn in the Eden zone (FUN FACT IF you go to single player and put in the commands GMsummon "Direbear_Character_BP_Rockwell_C") you can spawn them! but they only spawn via Summoners!
• R-Stegos: Spawn in the rockwells garden and they have the same pattern as the R-bronto or Allo
• R-Theriz: Spawns in the rockwell zone and it has Strips like the R-gasbag
• R-Mammoth: Spawns in the Eden zone and has spots like a R-Wolf
• R-rex: Spawns in the Eden zone and Has Large Strips on it and A Large line on its back 
• R-Spino: has a Pattern like the R-Bronto
• R-Patchyrhino: Spawns in the Rockwell zone Has a Pattern like the R-Reaper but has a Swill on its crest
• R-Trike: Spawns in the Eden zone, Has Pattern like the R-Parasaur
• R-Mantis: spawns in the rockwell zone and Has a Pattern like a R-Reaper and color
• R-Yuty: Spawns in the rockwell zone and has the Dots like a R-Carno and has them follow them!
• R-Meglo: Spawns in Rockwell zone and they are ALWAYS always aggressive but will sleep like shadowmanes when alone
• R-terror Bird: Spawns in the Eden zone and has the same look as the R-wolf

Skins:

• VR: Skin for beating all the Missions (can apply to any dino that has they skin)
• Infected dinos: Able to give the skin to the Dinos that the summoner can spawn. and it has the bloody look! (able to Unlock from beating rockwell Prime on Gamma)
• Mutated sword skin: the sword rockwells troops uses, able to unlock via Beta boss
•  

 

Something new...

Plant Species C. Able to grow Carnfavora for yourself in with special Pods: When you grow them they grow into fruits and you can Plant them like Plant Y. and they grow into Carnflora! (Reuses the carnivorous seed plant Icon)

 

 

 

Overall I love gen 2 but this is some Ideas i have to make it harder and cooler! 

 

 

 

 

[Udam]

20 hours ago, EndlessDuck said:

Pretty cool ideas here sir! Much better than sledgehammer nerfs devs love so much. I would like to add 1 more thing however.

For the love of Holy Dodo reduce shark spawn in the ocean! Whenever I go there to explore I can't get a moment to myself.
I once dismounted to change gathering settings on my shadowmane and got swarmed by 2 alpha sharks and 30 normal ones. Crapload of eels and jellies aswell. Barely managed to escape.

yeah they do spawn a bit on the crazy side. but i have not really seen many eels. but then again i mostly go under with a Astro, but yeah the sharks are crazy!


and with the nerfs. i think if its ok with nerfs but not Nuclear nerfs but at least add something to improve it.  

[Udam]

On 6/23/2021 at 12:10 PM, Udam said:

Theses are just some ideas for the map. some sound extrema, some not so much! lets start with the lesser things
 

Spawns

• Crabs: Spawn all over the ocean Biome, and can spawn in the south part of Rockwell's garden but Rarely in the norther part
• Bigfoots: Spawn in the Eden zone
• Morellatops: Spawn in the Rockwells garden and rarely in the Eden zone. Spawn in packs 
• Thorny dragon: Spawn more in the rockwell zone rather then just being stuck in the far North and south
• Procoptodon: Spawns more in the eden zone. mostly around Hills
• Bees: Can spawn more often, rather then just 3 per map.
• Megalania: Spawns in the rockwell zone
• Megalosaurus: Spawn in Both areas but In the rockwell zone they are always awake.
• Moth: Spawn in both areas more
• Pelagorn: Spawns in the eden zone lakes
• Vultures: Spawn all over the rockwell zone
• Basilisk: Can spawn in the rockwell garden but rarely. Can spawn more in the meat zone. 
• Reapers: Reaper kings can spawn on the surface in the rockwell zone at night so it adds more danger, But queens only spawn in the meat zone. 
• Snails: Spawn all over the rockwell garden but can spawn in the more swampy areas in the Eden zone
• All Robots: Spawn all over the Tek bridges so Defense units, Enforcers, scouts and even striders can spawn more in those areas 
   

1. Defenders/Defense units: Can spawn more, are Friendly to you and all robots but will attack you if a scout points you out
2. Enforcers: Same but are faster and spawn more
3. Attack drones: They fly around the tek bridge and they are friendly but again if you make them bad or make a scout mad, then they will attack  
4. Scouts: Spawn all OVER the tek bridges keeping a eye out for everything
5. styiders: they will be friendly but if a scout gets mad then the pulse ones will start attacking you! 

Items: these are Just some improvements with some of the items from gen 2.  if i didn't list something then its ok if not let me know

• Canoe: Able to gather fish with a fishing basket while ridding a canoe, Fish in Baskets Last 3xs longer in the Canoe, able to keep and unlock all the skins for the Canoes
• Net projectiles: Able to load on the Ballista for a poor mans Chain bola
• Tek crop plot: Able to get a Green house buff Even when underground, X plants grown from it turn into a Shotgun style (they shoot more for the same price)
• Hoversail: Passenger able to uses a Lance
• Tek Surveillance Console: Able to Way Point all cameras so you can retrieve them (More on the Camera itself) 

1. Camera: Able to turn on Thermal mode, Able to open doors, turn on turrets, can set to Spyglass mode (allows you to see level, name, stats etc), Able to turn on lights, etc

• Minigun: Able to uses Advance Pistol rounds as ammo (Does the same damage), but you can Load Advance rifle bullets to deal more damage!
• Jar and Pitch: can place in a Balsita (you need a Bolt as well) and can fire a bolt with the jar on the end to hit targets much father and deal SUPER heavy fire damage
• Tek Canteen: Able to keep the water when you change modes
• R-Seeds: Able to find some that grow Chitin/Keratin (R-6), Some that grow hide (R-7). and some with other roles R-C (Combat) it grows fleshy pods that you can grab and plant into the ground (acts like the ones that attack in the meat zone)
• Mutagel: Able to find the blue stones in the Space biome during White drops, around the stones (they give more overall but can find more), able to get more via Anky or mantis

 

Tames: this is not really a TLC but some improvments and some lesses buffs.

• Tek Stryder: (this is more of a Buff for the tools its self rather then the whole robot itself)

1. Pulse cannon: Deals 15 damage now and adds more damage over time (Up to 55) OR it can be more like the Phase pistol where it shoots Laser at a short range and adds up damage over time, it deals 7 damage but the max is 50 and it Burns through power.
2. Silence Cannon Rig: Turns off all Special ability's for the target you shot at (Like Yuty roars, Rock golem rock throw, etc), Slows down targets
3. Shield Projector Rig: same ability but it gives extra armor to near by tames and allies 

• Astrodelphis: Light Debuff and Buff:

1. Lasers: Deal Much less damage and have less range but fire at a Minigun like fireright the base shot does 50 damage, tier 2 will deal 100, and then last is 125
2. Plasma shots: (the homing shot). Does slightly less But adds a (Electrical stun effect) slows down the target buy 15%. (cool down for 30 secs before next stun). (able to Fire 8 shots before needing a cool down) Takes 45 secs!
3. able to breath underwater due to the saddle (so long as its powered)
    

• Shadowmane: Light buff, Light debuff, breeding, keep rexs and others as a role
   

1. to dismount a Player you need to aim at them and it only stuns and Dismounts the Player, but if you want to stop the dino, the hit it. Can chain up to them though.
2. assassin attack does more damage when Riding solo (due to stealth), but it when in a Pack the Power attack will deal MUCH less damage but adds a Bleed like effect due to the pack. (so it can be better if you uses solo but also good when in a group)
3.  Thornmail only stacks up 3 times rather then 5 (Kinda Crazy IMO due to the fact that if a shadowmane and a shadowmane are fighting it will take 60 years to end!)
4. Armor can Degrade overtime but it will recharge over time (The Higher the armor the longer it takes (at most a Hour and 30 mins to fully recharge the Max Cap of armor) (will uses the Stego shed partials to tell you that its broken, will stop to tell you that its ok) (Side note: Bathing in water cuts the cool down by half) (It kinda works as a Stat bar where when you take damage, it goes down and over time it comes back, even in the heat of combat! looks like the fortitude sign)
5. Males able to do the Light roar buff when alone
    

• Voidwyrm: A light buff and again a light debuff

1. Stun attack has a Timer before it can dismount again... 1 min timer
    

• Noglin: Spawn more in the rockwell garden, in the North part and the center! Can spawn at level 190 to make up for not breeding and cloning, Some dinos take more time to control then others.
   
• Summoner: makes more a presents and uses other a Flying Eye!

1. When killed they can drop Mutagel (small amount but still some!) (Higher the level the more you can get! (MAX IS 50)
2. drops element shards, chittin, Prime meat, rotten meat.. etc for killing them too!) 
    

• Exo mek: Buffs mostly 

1. Remove level now its like the Skiff where it has No level
2. Has 10K HP cuz 2000 is VERY LOW! Or at least give it 100 armor
3. Able to Do slam on the ground when in mid air!
4. AOE slam does More damage
5. EVA mode: when in the water or space you can enter EVA mode, you can Hover up and it only uses the Pickup and Carry mode
6. Moving on the sloped ground works like the tek boots!

EXO armor: my idea of the armor is more toned down version so things like flyers can be used more on the map

• Helmet: uses 50% less O2 rather then Unlimited o2, Gas can effect you still, The Mode of the helmet is now a Large flashlight on the head (As wide as a charge lamp Light)
• Gloves: Gathering is less for them, deals MUCH less damage but adds a Stun effect that slows down the target you punched! 
• Chestplate: Allows you to fly, glide etc but Only for a short about of time before it Overheats. 30 sec use and a 1 min cool down
• Leggings: Gives a speed boost (NOT SUPER SPEED!), able to move when your too heavy, gives better jump too.
• Boots: Allow you to move on sloped ground but the boots don't save you from fall damage, Only take 50% less.
• ALL PARTS: have durability so it can break OVER TIME (Can get Back if you search in supply drops OR DIE you get one 100% the time) !. gives little to No insulation, and only to help you get around the map) 

Map itself: No major changes but some things to make both harder and easier

• Adds vary temperature

1. Eden zone, south of the Eden zone is more on the warmer side while the Norther part is more colder. (Heat waves and Cold fronts can happen over time)
2. Space: ITS STUPID COLD AT NIGHT, BUT SUPER HOT AT NIGHT! just like the lunar in Gen 2
3. Rockwell zone. More on the extreme side, day can be Hot or cold, and Night can be Cold or Hot!
4. Meat zone: Nice a Warm!

• Space resources

1. More metal spawns, White drops can have Blue Mutagel stones as well as the mutagel and amberglits stones, Silcant stones spawns all over space  

 

R-Dinos!: Some more R- types of dinos! and some changes to some others!

• All Velios on the map spawn as R-Versons in the rockwell Garden (Added thanks Wildcard)
• All Sloths spawn as R-Versons in the Eden zone
• All parasaur in the Eden zone are R versons

new types of R-Dinos

• R-Direbear: Spawn in the Eden zone (FUN FACT IF you go to single player and put in the commands GMsummon "Direbear_Character_BP_Rockwell_C") you can spawn them! but they only spawn via Summoners!. Would spawn in the eden zone

Skins:

• VR: Skin for beating all the Missions (can apply to any dino that has they skin)
• Infected dinos: Able to give the skin to the Dinos that the summoner can spawn. and it has the bloody look! (able to Unlock from beating rockwell Prime on Gamma)
• Mutated sword skin: the sword rockwells troops uses, able to unlock via Beta boss
•  

 

Something new...

• Plant Species C. Able to grow Carnfavora for yourself in with special Pods: When you grow them they grow into fruits and you can Plant them like Plant Y. and they grow into Carnflora! (Reuses the carnivorous seed plant Icon)
• Able to place tree platform's on Large Flower trees in Rockwell garden
• Able to place sap tap on Large flower trees (to get Blue Gem sap)
•  

Overall I love gen 2 but this is some Ideas i have to make it harder and cooler! 

 

 

 

 

 

[EndlessDuck]

Pretty cool ideas here sir! Much better than sledgehammer nerfs devs love so much. I would like to add 1 more thing however.

For the love of Holy Dodo reduce shark spawn in the ocean! Whenever I go there to explore I can't get a moment to myself.
I once dismounted to change gathering settings on my shadowmane and got swarmed by 2 alpha sharks and 30 normal ones. Crapload of eels and jellies aswell. Barely managed to escape.