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51 minutes ago, Zayisha said:

If the enemy is dumb, yes.
Turn on your radar. Seconds later it's gone (shrike/harm anti-radar missile).
If not earlier AWACS picks you up and sends in guided weapons.

Also A-10 can stay out of your range/altitude and send some nice Mavericks over.
And IF you got something into the air... ECM/Chaff/Flares/Terrain.

Army = target practise for Air Force.
Modern Wars are decided and won in the air. not on the ground.


But back to topic, for a single person that would be not the most obvious option to down an A-10.

So what do you count ballistic missles as or ICBMs? Pretty sure the Titian nuclear missile program is ground based and could easily destroy your silly air force.  The future of combat is ground based missile systems. 

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1 minute ago, ThePryBar said:

So what do you count ballistic missles as or ICBMs? Pretty sure the Titian nuclear missile program is ground based and could easily destroy your silly air force.  The future of combat is ground based missile systems. 

So those missiles are walking on the ground, hm?!
And guess... tactical nuclear weapons are part of? exactly... air force

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3 minutes ago, ThePryBar said:

So what do you count ballistic missles as or ICBMs? Pretty sure the Titian nuclear missile program is ground based and could easily destroy your silly air force.  The future of combat is ground based missile systems. 

It's a mix of both. You can't win a modern war without air superiority, but you also can't win a war at all with just air superiority. You have to have boots on the ground to take and occupy land.

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1 hour ago, Zayisha said:

Well, you got the answer yourself.
Hop on a dolphin and be the better pilot.

You can't win from the ground. the keyword is air superiority.
If you get wrecked (on the ground) by someone that has air superiority, that just a logical consequence and not "OP".

Seems to me like if your solution to the Astrodelphis is to have your Astrodelphis then that would pretty much define imbalanced mechanics and completely justify the nerfs. Using the same creature as the only viable method to defend against it isn't really much of a counter.

I'm not really sure how you come to the conclusion "only the space dolphin beats the space dolphin" = entirely balanced

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PvP is NEVER balanced. Not everyone is on the same Skill level.

But fighting a Combat Jet with a Combat Jet is just the obvious solution.

You have to outsmar and authink the enemy.
TEK Pistol, TEK Bow, NET Gun, Rocket Launcher with Homing Missiles, using Terrain, setting Traps (e.g. Battery fueled Auto-Turrets), TEK Wyvern, Magmar, Bloodstalker... etc, etc, etc.
Think out of the box.

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2 hours ago, Zayisha said:

So those missiles are walking on the ground, hm?!
And guess... tactical nuclear weapons are part of? exactly... air force

So everything that flies is automatically considered air force 🤔,   well you better get over to Yemen and tell the Houthis that they have no chance to win against Saudi Arabia and the UAE given that the Houthis don't have an air force but the two countries that they are fighting do.

 

 

Air superiority means jack all without ground forces.

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On 6/23/2021 at 12:04 PM, Zayisha said:

Something is OP if there is no defense against it or it can not be countered.

The Dolphin was extremely easy to counter.

So could you please share with the PvP community your technique to easily counter the dolphin?  Very interested so please share the actual way your doing it in detail so we PvP players can put your method to the test.

Sure hope that your not just a lying troll.

 

 

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On 6/23/2021 at 10:19 AM, Joebl0w13 said:

You know, it's funny.

After 5 plus years of modding this forum there is only one type of person that accuses the mods of trolling. 

They are:

1. Someone who is usually being admonished (by said mods) for continually breaking forum rules, usually leading to an eventual ban.

2. People that come here to rant and bitch about the game or the company running it ad-nauseum. These people almost always have thousands of hours played in the game they seem to hate and keep sending over hard-earned money to the company they seem to hate.

Or some combination of the two.

It never stops being amusing. 

To recap: There's only one kind of person. Type 1, or Type 2, Type 3 a combination of both.

This is giving me flashbacks to Reaganomics. "...and then the third half of the budget..."

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14 hours ago, Zayisha said:

Army = target practise for Air Force.
Modern Wars are decided and won in the air. not on the ground.

1) The last 100 years just called, they disagree.

2) Even if we give your argument a lot of latitude it's still spurious, they're won with combined arms.

There are remarkably few battles that have been decided in the air, much less entire wars.

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9 hours ago, ThePryBar said:

So could you please share with the PvP community your technique to easily counter the dolphin?  Very interested so please share the actual way your doing it in detail so we PvP players can put your method to the test.

Sure hope that your not just a lying troll.

 

 

the shadowmane is the counter 😆 birth them in space they will fly on all of the map lol. has something to do with teleporter but ill never tell my full secrets haha 

 

 

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9 hours ago, ThePryBar said:

So could you please share with the PvP community your technique to easily counter the dolphin?  Very interested so please share the actual way your doing it in detail so we PvP players can put your method to the test.

Sure hope that your not just a lying troll.

 

 

The answer you are looking for was already given.
And only one or two posts above yours.

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49 minutes ago, Pipinghot said:

1) The last 100 years just called, they disagree.

2) Even if we give your argument a lot of latitude it's still spurious, they're won with combined arms.

There are remarkably few battles that have been decided in the air, much less entire wars.

Obviously you are not that deep into that topic.

1. You can completely dominate your enemy as long as you have air superiority.
2. You can have as much ground forces as you want. There is no way to win if the enemy has Air Superiority.

Try to reach and figh 2 or 3 Aircraft Carrier Groups that are sitting 60 Miles Offshore with your Tanks.

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2 hours ago, Zayisha said:

Obviously you are not that deep into that topic.

1. You can completely dominate your enemy as long as you have air superiority.
2. You can have as much ground forces as you want. There is no way to win if the enemy has Air Superiority.

Try to reach and figh 2 or 3 Aircraft Carrier Groups that are sitting 60 Miles Offshore with your Tanks.

The Chinese and Russian armies both have hypersonic anti ship missile systems that are truck launched, try and read my point about Yemen you knob your aerial superiority theory is blow apart by that one horrible war, for nearly ten years UAE and Saudi have carried out an aerial campaign against a group that has no formal air force and they can't seem to win no matter how many bombs they drop. Maybe look at the conflict in Syria and once again there is a couple nation's with advanced air forces but still can't seem to win with just air superiority.   

 

I really hope that the forum Mods give you a lifetime ban you lying little troll, now stop trying to hijack the forum with your idiotic claims.

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38 minutes ago, ThePryBar said:

So you do not have an actual counter and your claim is a barefaced lie after all, good to know.

Are you going to tell me, you are not able to scroll up a bit?!
Here ya go: "Hop on a dolphin and be the better pilot."

 

29 minutes ago, ThePryBar said:

there is a couple nation's with advanced air forces but still can't seem to win with just air superiority.

There's a difference in being not able to win a war or not wanting to win a war.

 

14 minutes ago, MMaas said:

Just a question to throw some oil to on the fire: What about nukes launched from subs?

Which is not going to happen. That would result in a retalitation Nuclear Strike. It would end in everyone losing.

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23 minutes ago, MMaas said:

None of those scenario's shoud happen. But the question that keeps me going is: Is that airforce too? ;)

You could also ask if Jets started from an Aircraft Carrier could coun't as "Air Force" as well.

I assume that you are clever enough to understand that Strategic Weapons, Jets, Helicopters, no matter "who" utilize them are an "Air Force", even if not launched by "the" Air Force.

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6 minutes ago, Zayisha said:

You could also ask if Jets started from an Aircraft Carrier could coun't as "Air Force" as well.

I assume that you are clever enough that Strategic Weapons, Jets, Helicopters, no matter "who" utilize them are an "Air Force", even if not launched by "the" Air Force.

I thought that jets from carriers where considered "Navy"? I'm not that familiar with the US armed forces, in some countries the "Naval Arial Service" is considered a branch of the navy and not airforce.

Nothing so confusing as militairy writing their own definitions ;)

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1 hour ago, Zayisha said:

Yeah, that's the point.

Same with a Space Carrier equiped with Star Fighters.
No matter if it would deployed by the Army, Navy or Air Force... it still would be a "Space Force".

No it would be the navy in Space, just like how all the smart screen writers seem to think that the air force will be obsolete in the future and the navy will take over Space command.

 

Why not answer my points about Ariel superiority first.  

 

You don't play PvP so don't leave pointless suggestions.

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