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May have killed the game for me. Announcing a new game before releasing content kills all hype for gen 2. Why even bother with gen 2 if it's worthless after a few months. Should have fixed the first g

Well I don't complain I completely love ARk 10k hours in and Im not done yet. I got a really big value for my 25 Euros I paid all those years ago.

I hope character creator in ARK 2 will be way better. I don't want to see player characters like this 🤣

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1 hour ago, Rio4201 said:

*ponders* last I looked we were at 4.26? So unless the Studio has their hand's on 5, it won't be that significant of a change. hrmm.

Just found this on the UE website in relation to current game development on the latest UE4.

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We’re designing for forward compatibility, so you can get started with next-gen development now in UE4 and move your projects to UE5 when ready.

 

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42 minutes ago, GP said:

I think it needs some clarification. We also don't know what PC means, whether it is Steam or Windows 10 only.

If they stick to Win 10 and Xbox it will be fully crossplay.

But I think the PS players need some clarification on the "exclusive" bit.

It feels like it is a choice between epic exclusive or windows 10 i hope i am wrong.

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13 hours ago, Bobo1234 said:

Does this mean it will only be on Xbox and no other consoles? Or will the game be EXCLUSIVELY on Xbox like Red Dead Redemption 1 was for a long time?

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Nope, bad choice of wording by WC, they have already confirmed it will be on PC, haven’t heard bout PS yet, but I asssume so.

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lul i called it and even got a warning for calling it, ark 2 got announced and everyone's crying over "not having fixed ark 1 first". ark 1 LITERALLY isn't fixable it's stuck on some old trash unreal engine they can't fix the problems ark has, so thank god ark 2 is on a new engine, it means they'll be able to fix all the bugs that plagued the first game

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1 hour ago, Drooling said:

lul i called it and even got a warning for calling it, ark 2 got announced and everyone's crying over "not having fixed ark 1 first". ark 1 LITERALLY isn't fixable it's stuck on some old trash unreal engine they can't fix the problems ark has, so thank god ark 2 is on a new engine, it means they'll be able to fix all the bugs that plagued the first game

1) It's not a trash engine as a lot of AAA titles uses it. I mean, the industry revolves around either Unreal, Unity or a in-house engine, which very few can afford. It's on WC for failing at using their tools properly.

2) Ark 2 is not on a new engine. The exact wording is "newer", which in reality means an updated version of the current UE4 engine.

3) Do you foolishly believe that the team who can't be bothered to finish SE and meet a single deadline will make a bug-free game on their second one?

Don't get me wrong, I do love the game and I got my money's worth over the years, but that is still no excuses to ignore blatant rampant problems. Doing so basicly green-light them to release half-tested content and more bugs...

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I wonder how maps will work. In Atlas all servers were connected in a way that players didn't had to teleport like in Ark, just navigate.

The end of Extinction was basically all the arks returning to the earth, so we should be able to walk from one to another.

But is also true that in the trailer they are not in the Earth. 😐

 

 

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I just hope that they at least optimize and reduce significantly the FPS lag before doing so. In console, the game even maintain itself in 780p with at least 30+ FPS, now just imagine in the 4K new consoles... what did they make? a nuclear bomb? that is realy "a fear evolved game" kk

They should name ARK to ARK lag evolved 2. 

I get sad that the Dev's is not doing anything about optimization, lag reduce and huge bug fixes just creating more broken stuff. 

PS: It is MY opnion but if the dev's want to ban me for telling the true, go ahead, ban me. 

I don't understand guys why are you so happy if in the end nothing will change, this "ARK 2" it's just a marketing stuff. 

 

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15 hours ago, Dinobros2000 said:

One, there was a GAME trailer, and two, the series will likely have tons of amazing lore and be fun to watch, I mean how is it not amazing to watch a parasar smash a raptors head against a rock? 

ok it was late BUT people are getting hyped up over NON gameplay footage made into a cinematic video which was clunky and slow at best - YES it used in game assets BUT again no gameplay footage no big bases, no tribe members all doing their own thing at once therefore i am not getting hyped over non realistic gameplay its that simple .. the animated series should be cool though :) granted it will be a long advert break for the tame to work :P

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11 minutes ago, APOLO said:

I just hope that they at least optimize and reduce significantly the FPS lag before doing so. In console, the game even maintain itself in 780p with at least 30+ FPS, now just imagine in the 4K new consoles... what did they make? a nuclear bomb? that is realy "a fear evolved game" kk

They should name ARK to ARK lag evolved 2. 

I get sad that the Dev's is not doing anything about optimization, lag reduce and huge bug fixes just creating more broken stuff. 

PS: It is MY opnion but if the dev's want to ban me for telling the true, go ahead, ban me. 

I don't understand guys why are you so happy if in the end nothing will change, this "ARK 2" it's just a marketing stuff. 

 

Years ago I discovered that the game was so bad programed that creature names were droping 10fps.

And no, I am not talking about rendering creature names, hidding them with the key didn't change fps, but disabling them from settings increased around 10fps the game (probably disabling them from settings were just stoping the process of gathering before showing them). Which means that just READ the names from the creatures were droping fps. 

Also I remember the blueprint of the sap thing. I opened it and It was extremly bad programed to the point that it wouldn't start generating sap until your open at least one time. So basically you could put in a tree, return after 5 months, and it would have generated 0.

I don't know if this things still happen since I stoped playing years ago.

That's why I always asked for a well programed Ark 2 made from zero. And they are doing.

Wildcard, I hope you hired good programers for Ark 2 and take all the time you need to make the core. A bugged Ark 2 will means no one will trust in you anymore.

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1 hour ago, Drooling said:

lul i called it and even got a warning for calling it, ark 2 got announced and everyone's crying over "not having fixed ark 1 first". ark 1 LITERALLY isn't fixable it's stuck on some old trash unreal engine they can't fix the problems ark has, so thank god ark 2 is on a new engine, it means they'll be able to fix all the bugs that plagued the first game

rubbish im afraid ARK broke the engine not the engine was bad .... it was simply coded incredibly weird and bad, due to the fact it was their first real game of this size and scope and their first time working with UE2 / UE2.5 been here since alpha following way before that get your facts right before trying to burn yourself :)

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5 minutes ago, Cucharon said:

Years ago I discovered that the game was so bad programed that creature names were droping 10fps the game.

And no, I am not talking about rendering creature names, hidding them with the key didn't change fps, but removing them from settings increased around 10fps the game. Which means that just READ the names from the creatures were droping fps. 

Also I remember the blueprint of the sap thing. It was extremly bad programed to the point that  it wouldn't start generating sap until your open at least one time. So basically you could put in a tree, return after 5 months, and it would have generated 0.

I don't know if this things still happen since I stoped playing years ago, but seriously, they were insane. 

That's why I always asked for a well programed Ark 2 made from zero. And they are doing so... please Wildcard, hire good programers please.

the tap sap bug .. tbh i never stopped opening them after installing cause of that bug so i really dont know if it still exists lol

 

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If we go by sheer speculation, Wildcard is working on an integrated engine with Unreal Engine and their own custom MMO code architecture, then I think the maps are probably not going to be released in the same fashion. I'd imagine, they'll be creating a level streaming algorithm and putting together seamless maps to keep to the idea of an open world environment.  In some ways I like the idea, in some ways I don't.  The mappers/modders in the Ark community are fantastic, passionate and dedicated to making Ark a better place, and to see them dis-included is a bit disheartening.  Most of this is pure speculation at this point however, really without information we're all drawing straws on what to expect. 

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5 minutes ago, Duffmek said:

rubbish im afraid ARK broke the engine not the engine was bad .... it was simply coded incredibly weird and bad, due to the fact it was their first real game of this size and scope and their first time working with UE2 / UE2.5 been here since alpha following way before that get your facts right before trying to burn yourself :)

Game design revolves around a very complicated and well thought out initial design.  That's the biggest pitfall for anyone in development, you may design the game with the vision you originally have, but as technology, player demands, and new ideas emerge, it's easy to look at your project and realize that these things you want to add later aren't possible without a complete tear down of the original game and re-design.  Unfortunately, it's 99.9% probable that this was the case with Ark 1.  The Unreal Engine itself isn't to blame for the woes of Ark 1, if anything is to blame, it's lack of ESP and Premonitions by the original design team lol.  Unfortunately, Wildcard isn't the only game studio who has had this issue, they all have.  WoW wasn't designed and immediately put into development, there were dozens of back to the drawing board moments. 

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In this chat I'm referring to PC ARK "issues"

I Know this is kind of a stupid question but I really wanna know something about the two, for starters Ark vs. Ark 2. I'm guessing the game will be another standalone so a ARK game and ARK 2 game? Also, seeing the current standing for Ark, It's low pop across servers and even on modded / Unofficial servers. So if you're not combining Ark and Ark 2, How will this be resolved? I loved the game during its prime days when I could go to every sever and have minimum 50-70 players roaming the ARK but it slowly vanished as the years passed and I'm barely able to find servers with 10 minimum. Is there a chance that Ark and Ark 2 is the same game but, Ark 2 is just a major overhaul of ARK with tons of new stuff being introduced and old issues being fixed like Meshing, lag, etc. with a clean wipe on "All Official Servers"  and lowering the servers to like 10-20 to have players play on and have them enjoy a server filled with lots of players rather than the few 20 - 15 players on them out of 100ish unused slots with 100+ servers. Sorry for how its layed out the way i get my information across is very weird. Thanks for the help!

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