Luewen Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Has anyone actually made working food calculator for wyverns that also accounts for maturation %. There is always some of the older calculators that calculate it with around 360 food lost per hour. That is only for the baby phase and food usage is reduced drastically as maturation increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjskdjkfa Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I've thought about it. Prty sure it actually starts with 300 f/h and decreases linearly. E.g. 50% -> they've lost half the rate so use 150 f/h while at 75% -> 300*.25= 75 f/h since the rate continues to decrease over what ever interval you calculate for - they will use even less of their food than using that calculated rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, sjskdjkfa said: I've thought about it. Prty sure it actually starts with 300 f/h and decreases linearly. E.g. 50% -> they've lost half the rate so use 150 f/h while at 75% -> 300*.25= 75 f/h since the rate continues to decrease over what ever interval you calculate for - they will use even less of their food than using that calculated rate Yeh i have noticed the same thing were just wondering if there is math to calculate it. If its linear curve would love to be able to make chart but sadly i dont have time to use stopwatch every 5 % maturation. Some sort of calculator would help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjskdjkfa Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Luewen said: Yeh i have noticed the same thing were just wondering if there is math to calculate it. If its linear curve would love to be able to make chart but sadly i dont have time to use stopwatch every 5 % maturation. Some sort of calculator would help a lot. I expect the equation is something like 3*(100-current) where current is the wyverns current maturation. Using that I made this chart: 0 300 5 285 10 270 15 255 20 240 25 225 30 210 35 195 40 180 45 165 50 150 55 135 60 120 65 105 70 90 75 75 80 60 85 45 90 30 95 15 number on the left is mat percent and number on the right is expected rate for a wyvern at that % as a sanity check i just poped out some wyverns and took some data... _____ food: 600 @ 1:47pm maturation: 58.7% @ 1:47pm _____ @2:17pm food: 542 %mat: 59.2 _____ @2:47pm food: 483 %mat: 59.7% _____ some math --------- 1:47->2:17=30min 600-542=58 food lost 59.2-58.7=0.5% mat gained =>116 f/h, 1% mat/h --------- 1:47->2:47=1h 600-483=117 f/h Note if I'd used the table I would have looked at the line 60 120, so 116 to 117 actual rate is pretty close.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjskdjkfa Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 more news, first off my equation is off by enough to be concerning! using the linear 300(100%-current%) 100-58.7 = 41.3 % left 300*0.413=123.9 f/h 123 ~ 116 ?? my rate was off by 7... DILO is the real equation!? also.. I made a simple calculator of sorts! (a python script for my personal use) percent = raw_input("percent? ") food = raw_input("food? ") print float(food)/(3*(100-float(percent))) should give you a reasonable approximation of how many hours left by inputting current food and % assuming you can install or have python installed... perhaps someone can improve on what I've done. For one idk why my equation was that far off from my timed rate, perhaps more importantly idk how to incorporate the fact that the rate keeps decreasing, idk how to make a calculator available to the public other than sharing code... one idea for improving the calc put a loop where it calculates the instantaneous rate, decreases foods, increases %, then next iteration gets the new rate, rinse and repeat till there is no more foods, which would be fine, but seriously can someone who is good at calculus give us a better way...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, sjskdjkfa said: more news, first off my equation is off by enough to be concerning! using the linear 300(100%-current%) 100-58.7 = 41.3 % left 300*0.413=123.9 f/h 123 ~ 116 ?? my rate was off by 7... DILO is the real equation!? also.. I made a simple calculator of sorts! (a python script for my personal use) percent = raw_input("percent? ") food = raw_input("food? ") print float(food)/(3*(100-float(percent))) should give you a reasonable approximation of how many hours left by inputting current food and % assuming you can install or have python installed... perhaps someone can improve on what I've done. For one idk why my equation was that far off from my timed rate, perhaps more importantly idk how to incorporate the fact that the rate keeps decreasing, idk how to make a calculator available to the public other than sharing code... one idea for improving the calc put a loop where it calculates the instantaneous rate, decreases foods, increases %, then next iteration gets the new rate, rinse and repeat till there is no more foods, which would be fine, but seriously can someone who is good at calculus give us a better way...? I think we need @Joebl0w13 to chime in if he has any idea on the math. Your chart in the first message is not that far off though. I had wyvern at roughly 3015 food yesterday and 17% maturation. Went to bed and 10 and half hours later it was around 600. I cant remember the exact number. So about 240 to 245 food per hour. But there must be some sort of calculation in game code for that,right? Similar to other dinos on breeding calculators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted November 20, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2020 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said: 👀 Wait, you are trying to tell that you dont know the formula? 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted November 21, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Luewen said: Wait, you are trying to tell that you dont know the formula? 😝 I don’t write this software. I just observe from afar with a smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 23 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said: I don’t write this software. I just observe from afar with a smile. Yes my bad, i somehow mixed you with @invincibleqc. I remembered you were the ingame formula master. So maybe he has idea about the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted November 22, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Luewen said: Yes my bad, i somehow mixed you with @invincibleqc. I remembered you were the ingame formula master. So maybe he has idea about the formula. He is the man with the ingame math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 1:01 AM, sjskdjkfa said: more news, first off my equation is off by enough to be concerning! using the linear 300(100%-current%) 100-58.7 = 41.3 % left 300*0.413=123.9 f/h 123 ~ 116 ?? my rate was off by 7... DILO is the real equation!? also.. I made a simple calculator of sorts! (a python script for my personal use) percent = raw_input("percent? ") food = raw_input("food? ") print float(food)/(3*(100-float(percent))) should give you a reasonable approximation of how many hours left by inputting current food and % assuming you can install or have python installed... perhaps someone can improve on what I've done. For one idk why my equation was that far off from my timed rate, perhaps more importantly idk how to incorporate the fact that the rate keeps decreasing, idk how to make a calculator available to the public other than sharing code... one idea for improving the calc put a loop where it calculates the instantaneous rate, decreases foods, increases %, then next iteration gets the new rate, rinse and repeat till there is no more foods, which would be fine, but seriously can someone who is good at calculus give us a better way...? Totally did not notice your python script. I am gonna have test with it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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