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Kizmiaz

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Imprint Timers and Ratio

 

call me crazy but I'm currently raising Gigas, Tusos, a Magma and just finished on a Yuty. I know there's no accelerated raising on official servers right now but I recently lost 3 Gigas to a bug and was in need of a new one. So I decided to raise the above mentioned alongside as the Giga takes way more time.

I synchonized the imprint intervals to the most extent with only a few minutes between each dino.

The yuty was the first to be finished (as i started on it some time ago without accelerated raising but put it on hold for ... well now). As a matter of fact the imprints on the yuty always been ahead of its maturation once applied except for the very last one. While the dino was at 99.5% the imprint was at 97%. Time was too short to apply the last imprint apparently.

If at all I missed the imprint time by FIVE minutes total over the entire process of raising the yuty and this is where my anger kicks in.

Raising times recently got adjusted. Why isn't there a little bit more of a grace period. I mean you raise that damn dino for an entire week and being five minutes late in seven days spoils the outcome already ?

I feel badly trolled by that. In addition the giga gets 3% imprint. Well, that was fine for the first three imprints. On the fourth it jumped to 11% imprint and on the next it was 14% but the giga was at 14.2 maturation already.

When you display 3% then give us 3% and not 2.8% or whatever for whatever creature.  raising these creatures is time consuming and our reward is the 100% imprint. Five minutes in one week being penalized is just not right.

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57 minutes ago, Luewen said:

Thats because imprints are not flat %. They have decimals but game rounds them to nearest full number. Thats why you sometimes get 3% and sometimes 4% added. Each giga imprint is approx 2.90%.

i figured that much. that's why i wrote 2.8%. but it makes no sense when the, e.g., giga grows faster than that and is 17.1% matured but the imprint is at 17 and even less as it's less than 3% and not a titbid more. no way to catch up on even with each imprint in time

 

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24 minutes ago, LF736 said:

Well first of all Raising times are the same.

Taming, XP, Harvest were affected. 

what are you talking about. i don't refer to the recent bump-up to  the default rates but to this v312.65 "QOL/Balance Pass" - 07/30/2020  when I mentioned that Raising times got adjusted recently.

 

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2 hours ago, Kizmiaz said:

i figured that much. that's why i wrote 2.8%. but it makes no sense when the, e.g., giga grows faster than that and is 17.1% matured but the imprint is at 17 and even less as it's less than 3% and not a titbid more. no way to catch up on even with each imprint in time

 

The thing is though, the amount for each imprint is rounded but so is current progress. Each imprint is 2.857% so you're not at 17%, you're at 17.14% and it's displaying rounded down. The grace window is extremely narrow with gigas, over their 11 2/3 day raise period you have a total of 35 minutes of grace, so when they need imprint you have 1 minute to spend per imprint in order to ultimately achieve 100%, if you average longer than 1 minute to get the imprints done you won't get 100%. So you're never going to see that you're well out ahead of the raise percent.

The other thing about the yuty, if you started in 3x then you needed 7 imprints. In 1x you need 23 imprints. This is just the way the math works out, you also have a larger amount of grace doing it in 3x. The problem is that 23 is not a multiple of 7, so it can actually be impossible to get 100% imprint if you start a dino during accelerated breeding and finish it in regular breeding, I ran into the same thing with Basilo.

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5 hours ago, Kizmiaz said:

 

[...] The yuty was the first to be finished (as i started on it some time ago without accelerated raising but put it on hold for ... well now).  [....]

 

 

10 minutes ago, Zatick said:

The thing is though, the amount for each imprint is rounded but so is current progress. Each imprint is 2.857% so you're not at 17%, you're at 17.14% and it's displaying rounded down. The grace window is extremely narrow with gigas, over their 11 2/3 day raise period you have a total of 35 minutes of grace, so when they need imprint you have 1 minute to spend per imprint in order to ultimately achieve 100%, if you average longer than 1 minute to get the imprints done you won't get 100%. So you're never going to see that you're well out ahead of the raise percent.

The other thing about the yuty, if you started in 3x then you needed 7 imprints. In 1x you need 23 imprints. This is just the way the math works out, you also have a larger amount of grace doing it in 3x. The problem is that 23 is not a multiple of 7, so it can actually be impossible to get 100% imprint if you start a dino during accelerated breeding and finish it in regular breeding, I ran into the same thing with Basilo.

i didn't start the yuty in 3x or 5x but 1x .  just as the rate is right now.

other than that ... hmm. i'll see the outcome in a week.

 

thx though

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1 hour ago, Kizmiaz said:

i didn't start the yuty in 3x or 5x but 1x .  just as the rate is right now.

other than that ... hmm. i'll see the outcome in a week.

 

thx though

Here is the imprinting progression of a Yuty:

Total maturation: 7 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds
Cuddles required: 23
Cuddles percentage: 4.3478260869565215
Cuddle interval: 8 hours

Imprinting progression:
        - Imprint #1:
                 Precise: 4.3478260869565215%
                 Networked: 4.3478%
                 Displayed: 4%
                 Maturation left: 7 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #2:
                 Precise: 8.695652173913043%
                 Networked: 8.6957%
                 Displayed: 9%
                 Maturation left: 7 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #3:
                 Precise: 13.043478260869565%
                 Networked: 13.0435%
                 Displayed: 13%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #4:
                 Precise: 17.391304347826086%
                 Networked: 17.3913%
                 Displayed: 17%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #5:
                 Precise: 21.73913043478261%
                 Networked: 21.7391%
                 Displayed: 22%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #6:
                 Precise: 26.08695652173913%
                 Networked: 26.087%
                 Displayed: 26%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #7:
                 Precise: 30.43478260869565%
                 Networked: 30.4348%
                 Displayed: 30%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #8:
                 Precise: 34.78260869565217%
                 Networked: 34.7826%
                 Displayed: 35%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #9:
                 Precise: 39.130434782608695%
                 Networked: 39.1304%
                 Displayed: 39%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #10:
                 Precise: 43.47826086956522%
                 Networked: 43.4783%
                 Displayed: 43%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #11:
                 Precise: 47.826086956521735%
                 Networked: 47.8261%
                 Displayed: 48%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #12:
                 Precise: 52.17391304347826%
                 Networked: 52.1739%
                 Displayed: 52%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #13:
                 Precise: 56.52173913043478%
                 Networked: 56.5217%
                 Displayed: 57%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #14:
                 Precise: 60.8695652173913%
                 Networked: 60.8696%
                 Displayed: 61%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #15:
                 Precise: 65.21739130434783%
                 Networked: 65.2174%
                 Displayed: 65%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #16:
                 Precise: 69.56521739130434%
                 Networked: 69.5652%
                 Displayed: 70%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #17:
                 Precise: 73.91304347826086%
                 Networked: 73.913%
                 Displayed: 74%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #18:
                 Precise: 78.26086956521739%
                 Networked: 78.2609%
                 Displayed: 78%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #19:
                 Precise: 82.6086956521739%
                 Networked: 82.6087%
                 Displayed: 83%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #20:
                 Precise: 86.95652173913044%
                 Networked: 86.9565%
                 Displayed: 87%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #21:
                 Precise: 91.30434782608695%
                 Networked: 91.3043%
                 Displayed: 91%
                 Maturation left: 17 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #22:
                 Precise: 95.65217391304347%
                 Networked: 95.6522%
                 Displayed: 96%
                 Maturation left: 9 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.
        - Imprint #23:
                 Precise: 100%
                 Networked: 100%
                 Displayed: 100%
                 Maturation left: 1 hours, 11 minutes, 6 seconds.

Meaning that you have 1 hours 11 minutes and 6 seconds to do the 23 imprints or more precisely:

Time per imprint: 3 minutes, 5 seconds.

If you take longer than that, then you won't be able to do the last imprint. That is definitely not the worst, though. For example, you only have 1 minute per imprint for a Giga:

Total maturation: 11 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds
Cuddles required: 35
Cuddles percentage: 2.857142857142857
Cuddle interval: 8 hours

Imprinting progression:
        - Imprint #1:
                 Precise: 2.857142857142857%
                 Networked: 2.8571%
                 Displayed: 3%
                 Maturation left: 11 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #2:
                 Precise: 5.714285714285714%
                 Networked: 5.7143%
                 Displayed: 6%
                 Maturation left: 11 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #3:
                 Precise: 8.571428571428571%
                 Networked: 8.5714%
                 Displayed: 9%
                 Maturation left: 10 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #4:
                 Precise: 11.428571428571429%
                 Networked: 11.4286%
                 Displayed: 11%
                 Maturation left: 10 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #5:
                 Precise: 14.285714285714286%
                 Networked: 14.2857%
                 Displayed: 14%
                 Maturation left: 10 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #6:
                 Precise: 17.142857142857142%
                 Networked: 17.1429%
                 Displayed: 17%
                 Maturation left: 9 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #7:
                 Precise: 20.0%
                 Networked: 20.0%
                 Displayed: 20%
                 Maturation left: 9 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #8:
                 Precise: 22.857142857142858%
                 Networked: 22.8571%
                 Displayed: 23%
                 Maturation left: 9 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #9:
                 Precise: 25.714285714285715%
                 Networked: 25.7143%
                 Displayed: 26%
                 Maturation left: 8 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #10:
                 Precise: 28.571428571428573%
                 Networked: 28.5714%
                 Displayed: 29%
                 Maturation left: 8 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #11:
                 Precise: 31.42857142857143%
                 Networked: 31.4286%
                 Displayed: 31%
                 Maturation left: 8 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #12:
                 Precise: 34.285714285714285%
                 Networked: 34.2857%
                 Displayed: 34%
                 Maturation left: 7 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #13:
                 Precise: 37.142857142857146%
                 Networked: 37.1429%
                 Displayed: 37%
                 Maturation left: 7 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #14:
                 Precise: 40.0%
                 Networked: 40.0%
                 Displayed: 40%
                 Maturation left: 7 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #15:
                 Precise: 42.85714285714286%
                 Networked: 42.8571%
                 Displayed: 43%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #16:
                 Precise: 45.714285714285715%
                 Networked: 45.7143%
                 Displayed: 46%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #17:
                 Precise: 48.57142857142857%
                 Networked: 48.5714%
                 Displayed: 49%
                 Maturation left: 6 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #18:
                 Precise: 51.42857142857143%
                 Networked: 51.4286%
                 Displayed: 51%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #19:
                 Precise: 54.285714285714285%
                 Networked: 54.2857%
                 Displayed: 54%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #20:
                 Precise: 57.142857142857146%
                 Networked: 57.1429%
                 Displayed: 57%
                 Maturation left: 5 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #21:
                 Precise: 60.0%
                 Networked: 60.0%
                 Displayed: 60%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #22:
                 Precise: 62.85714285714286%
                 Networked: 62.8571%
                 Displayed: 63%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #23:
                 Precise: 65.71428571428572%
                 Networked: 65.7143%
                 Displayed: 66%
                 Maturation left: 4 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #24:
                 Precise: 68.57142857142857%
                 Networked: 68.5714%
                 Displayed: 69%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #25:
                 Precise: 71.42857142857143%
                 Networked: 71.4286%
                 Displayed: 71%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #26:
                 Precise: 74.28571428571429%
                 Networked: 74.2857%
                 Displayed: 74%
                 Maturation left: 3 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #27:
                 Precise: 77.14285714285714%
                 Networked: 77.1429%
                 Displayed: 77%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #28:
                 Precise: 80.0%
                 Networked: 80.0%
                 Displayed: 80%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #29:
                 Precise: 82.85714285714286%
                 Networked: 82.8571%
                 Displayed: 83%
                 Maturation left: 2 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #30:
                 Precise: 85.71428571428572%
                 Networked: 85.7143%
                 Displayed: 86%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #31:
                 Precise: 88.57142857142857%
                 Networked: 88.5714%
                 Displayed: 89%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #32:
                 Precise: 91.42857142857143%
                 Networked: 91.4286%
                 Displayed: 91%
                 Maturation left: 1 days, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #33:
                 Precise: 94.28571428571429%
                 Networked: 94.2857%
                 Displayed: 94%
                 Maturation left: 16 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #34:
                 Precise: 97.14285714285714%
                 Networked: 97.1429%
                 Displayed: 97%
                 Maturation left: 8 hours, 35 minutes, 1 seconds.
        - Imprint #35:
                 Precise: 100%
                 Networked: 100%
                 Displayed: 100%
                 Maturation left: 35 minutes, 1 seconds.

Time per imprint: 1 minutes.

Also, if you are late to claim your baby then the clock is ticking because they are growing but their imprint timer doesn't start until claimed.

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23 hours ago, Kizmiaz said:

i figured that much. that's why i wrote 2.8%. but it makes no sense when the, e.g., giga grows faster than that and is 17.1% matured but the imprint is at 17 and even less as it's less than 3% and not a titbid more. no way to catch up on even with each imprint in time

 

Your imprint is most likely 17.2 to 17.4 at that point. Game only shows it at 17. You need to export the baby to asb to see exact imprint %.

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23 hours ago, invincibleqc said:

Here is the imprinting progression of a Yuty:


[...]

 

Also, if you are late to claim your baby then the clock is ticking because they are growing but their imprint timer doesn't start until claimed.

thanks for the detailed reply.

your last point might be the case fior the yuty, ergo my failure. what puzzled me though was that the imprints once applied been higher than maturation. i for sure can live with a 97% imprint. It just bugged as i was afraid of the gigas not getting to 100% although i'm kinda peculiar to be on the spot once the imprint is due.

anyways, there's always the next egg to hatch.

thanks

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I'm really hoping they address gigas in the future. I've played since day 1 of beta. Raised 100's This round i've had to raise gigas like a normal person. So far i'm on 3 weeks cause i've been trying to be a little more on with imprints. Podding while i sleep etc. Then the power went out. 4 hours later I'm able to get back on. Imprints Late. Weeks of work down the drain. I know there is always an event in the future. But why should we have to wait for events for long dino raises. I'd like to see 1 imprint a day. I dont care if it takes 11 days to raise.  I remember the days of imprints every 4 hours etc. I know we've come a long way.

Yeah we got severely spoiled with the months of covid related events. Magmas are another one that needs to be addressed. 18 hour hand feed on a 7 day raise? I could see if we could go longer on amber then a couple hours with salts in there. Very few people are breeding magmas due to the fact its such a pain.

Here's to hoping in October they overhaul the whole system. Mosas/Tusos/Basils were a great start.

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On 9/2/2020 at 1:25 PM, Kizmiaz said:

Raising times recently got adjusted. Why isn't there a little bit more of a grace period. I mean you raise that damn dino for an entire week and being five minutes late in seven days spoils the outcome already ?

 

On 9/2/2020 at 7:09 PM, Zatick said:

The grace window is extremely narrow with gigas, over their 11 2/3 day raise period you have a total of 35 minutes of grace, so when they need imprint you have 1 minute to spend per imprint in order to ultimately achieve 100%

Kizmiaz, I am right there with you. Our gigas just reached maturation this morning, raised on 1X from hatch to adult. Each and every one is 97% imprinted, with the next care due in anywhere from 2.5 minutes to 6 minutes.. I knew there was a narrow window to reach 100% imprinting, but a 35 minute grace period over the 12 days of maturation and 35 imprints is exceedingly narrow. I understand the long maturation time of a giga as I've raised hundreds. My complaint is not with the length of time to raise them, but grace period to complete 35 cares. Wildcard should address this by either decreasing the giga maturation time, or increasing it. There should be a greater window for giga imprints. Thirty-five minutes over 35 cares is not enough. It's such a disappointment to spend 2 weeks raising gigas, feeling like you were on time for every care, only to watch your gigas turn adult with only 2-3 minutes left until what would be the final care. Wildcard, at the very least, should give us another hour or 2 of maturation time to account for variations in game accessibility. Especially given that the care times shift with each patch or server crash.

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