EndlessDuck Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 CI map creature population is way too scarce. Redwoods are empty, only north part of them have some mammoths/wolves/sabers etc. Halcyon planes are pretty much empty with 1-2 trikes every 100 sqare miles Ocean is 90% empty. I've only found water creatures around White Shoals, Eldritch Isle, Northland and Redwood area. Rest of the ocean is pretty much dead. The spot under the Apotheosis has no life whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I'm wondering if this is because this map is quite a bit bigger. The total population of creatures might be close to the same as the Island, but spread out more. It might be that they had to reduce spawns to allow this map to run on all of the platforms supported. It does seem like some areas have very few spawns, but then you also find some spots with an over spawn. Also things like tusis stuck on the beach. The underwater tunnels had some areas with no spawns, but others with plenty for may tastes (about the right amount). The map needs a bit of work and fine tuning. It is "new" (really old, but was unfinished for a very long time), so give it a few months, maybe years, hopefully it will get fixed up. Like the wyvern nests in "the scar" are really messed up. Some spawn under the mesh. Some are just decorative. Total mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeldei Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 The map has always had this problem. It's too big and there never were enough spawns to compensate for the map size. It is like if you took ragnarok, but placed half the island's creature spawns into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Zeldei said: The map has always had this problem. It's too big and there never were enough spawns to compensate for the map size. It is like if you took ragnarok, but placed half the island's creature spawns into it. Nothing really wrong with that if that is the intended design. You get a more natural looking number of creatures. The number of creatures all in one area on the Island does not even remotely look natural. You show up and half the creatures eat the other half of the creatures and then a few minutes later, more spawn in. Having to travel more distance to find the same number of creatures you find in a smaller area on the Island is more realistic for a map like Crystal Isles. Also sometimes all the creatures can distract from the beauty of Crystal Isles. If you want a lot of creatures, simply go to the Island. Now if it is all just a bug, sure they should fix it, but I actually prefer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeldei Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 1:20 PM, wildbill said: Nothing really wrong with that if that is the intended design. You get a more natural looking number of creatures. The number of creatures all in one area on the Island does not even remotely look natural. You show up and half the creatures eat the other half of the creatures and then a few minutes later, more spawn in. Having to travel more distance to find the same number of creatures you find in a smaller area on the Island is more realistic for a map like Crystal Isles. Also sometimes all the creatures can distract from the beauty of Crystal Isles. If you want a lot of creatures, simply go to the Island. Now if it is all just a bug, sure they should fix it, but I actually prefer it. I don't mind so much on the land. The ocean, though, it is very noticeable. Just vast amounts of dead zones. I like a good distribution. Some places are bizarre. When you go to the Halycon plains, I think it is called, there are pockets of insane clusters of animals. I think I found small caves with 50 wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Zeldei said: I don't mind so much on the land. The ocean, though, it is very noticeable. Just vast amounts of dead zones. I like a good distribution. Some places are bizarre. When you go to the Halycon plains, I think it is called, there are pockets of insane clusters of animals. I think I found small caves with 50 wolves. Ya, those caves are weird. The whole map is different and sometimes in bizarre ways. That is all part of its character, which I think is intentional. I would call those caves with the wolves murder holes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeldei Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, wildbill said: Ya, those caves are weird. The whole map is different and sometimes in bizarre ways. That is all part of its character, which I think is intentional. I would call those caves with the wolves murder holes ? I remember playing Crystal Isles years ago when it was a mod map. I can across those murder holes and thought "this has got to be a bug or something." But I guess it was actually a map feature all along lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirageUK Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 There are actually around 40k wilds on the map at full respawn for our private server. Definitely more "pocketed" in spawn locations than other maps though so vast areas without any, especially on land. Breakdown of counts from my private server: Aberrant Anglerfish x 13 Aberrant Arthropluera x 43 Aberrant Baryonyx x 6 Aberrant Beelzebufo x 35 Aberrant Cnidaria x 7 Aberrant Coelacanth x 829 Aberrant Dimetrodon x 15 Aberrant Diplocaulus x 10 Aberrant Dung Beetle x 26 Aberrant Electrophorus x 5 Aberrant Manta x 30 Aberrant Megalosaurus x 15 Aberrant Otter x 38 Aberrant Piranha x 42 Aberrant Pulmonoscorpius x 13 Aberrant Purlovia x 56 Aberrant Salmon x 78 Aberrant Sarco x 18 Aberrant Spino x 13 Aberrant Trilobite x 149 Achatina x 65 Allosaurus x 63 Alpha Carnotaurus x 10 Alpha Leedsichthys x 4 Alpha Megalodon x 10 Alpha Mosasaur x 12 Alpha Raptor x 11 Alpha T-Rex x 1 Alpha Tusoteuthis x 13 Ammonite x 388 Anglerfish x 987 Ankylosaurus x 230 Araneo x 53 Archaeopteryx x 22 Argentavis x 394 Arthropluera x 55 Baryonyx x 100 Basilisk x 30 Basilosaurus x 33 Beelzebufo x 404 Brontosaurus x 85 Carbonemys x 475 Carnotaurus x 299 Castoroides x 80 Chalicotherium x 64 Cnidaria x 1270 Coelacanth x 3167 Coelacanth (Ocean) x 4100 Compy x 638 Daeodon x 101 Dilophosaur x 859 Dimetrodon x 181 Dimorphodon x 531 Diplocaulus x 158 Diplodocus x 57 Dire Bear x 48 Dire Wolf x 338 Diseased Leech x 17 Dodo x 1319 Doedicurus x 68 Dung Beetle x 37 Dunkleosteus x 417 Electrophorus x 637 Equus x 172 Eurypterid x 926 Featherlight x 45 Gallimimus x 328 Giant Queen Bee x 19 Giganotosaurus x 2 Gigantopithecus x 22 Glowbug x 74 Glowtail x 3 Griffin x 50 Hesperornis x 149 Honey Bee x 50 Hyaenodon x 123 Ichthyornis x 358 Ichthyosaurus x 646 Iguanodon x 109 Jerboa x 290 Kairuku x 160 Kaprosuchus x 143 Karkinos x 33 Kentrosaurus x 109 Lamprey x 18 Leech x 434 Leedsichthys x 16 Liopleurodon x 24 Lymantria x 154 Lystrosaurus x 642 Mammoth x 247 Manta x 882 Mantis x 14 Megalania x 10 Megaloceros x 330 Megalodon x 271 Megalosaurus x 1 Meganeura x 1310 Megatherium x 53 Mesopithecus x 139 Microraptor x 117 Morellatops x 156 Mosasaurus x 65 Moschops x 271 Oil Jugbug x 121 Onyc x 24 Otter x 78 Oviraptor x 96 Ovis x 30 Pachy x 164 Pachyrhinosaurus x 41 Paraceratherium x 211 Parasaur x 605 Pegomastax x 257 Pelagornis x 30 Phiomia x 240 Piranha x 1597 Plesiosaur x 73 Polar Bear x 15 Procoptodon x 85 Pteranodon x 662 Pulmonoscorpius x 282 Purlovia x 35 Purlovia (Polar) x 16 Quetzal x 24 Raptor x 368 Ravager x 52 Rex x 56 Rock Elemental x 10 Sabertooth x 385 Sabertooth Salmon x 1777 Sarco x 213 Seeker x 68 Spinosaur x 27 Stegosaurus x 175 Tapejara x 55 Tek Parasaur x 65 Tek Raptor x 20 Tek Rex x 2 Tek Stegosaurus x 22 Terror Bird x 128 Therizinosaur x 45 Thorny Dragon x 55 Thylacoleo x 29 Titanoboa x 147 Titanomyrma Drone x 762 Titanomyrma Soldier x 382 Titanosaur x 3 Triceratops x 271 Trilobite x 745 Troodon x 249 Tropeognathus x 15 Tusoteuthis x 57 Unicorn x 4 Vulture x 136 Water Jugbug x 80 Woolly Rhino x 85 Wyvern (Blood) x 6 Wyvern (Ember) x 6 Wyvern (Tropical) x 13 Yeti x 12 Yutyrannus x 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirageUK Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 The ocean seems quite busy but only near or under land mass areas and mainly to the west. For example megaladons, cnidria, dunkys all hug the inner areas rather than the outer reaches of the water so quite empty on outer edges of map. This is a snap of all ocean Coals and you can see what I mean: .. and megaladons .. and dunkys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingScott Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I loved how this map felt like it was more spread out and not a creature every 6 ft. Felt way more functional, realistic, and added a sense of reward when finding a creature you were looking for. If anything was to be added I would vote for more ocean life. That part feels empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 The areas devoid of ocean creatures, the East and SE areas are also the areas of the map that were finished last. Almost like someone forgot an important step when finishing the map ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeldei Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I have run into the weird situation where biome spawns don't make much sense. I ran all around the redwood forest and found maybe 5 creatures total, most of which were Mammoths and Rhinos. The redwoods seemingly has few redwood creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertymine Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 3:11 AM, Zeldei said: The map has always had this problem. It's too big and there never were enough spawns to compensate for the map size. It is like if you took ragnarok, but placed half the island's creature spawns into it. The map doesn't FEEL much bigger than Ragnarok, is it bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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