Cowgirl Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What if manas themselves took damage when they froze tames and players so that the freezing would have to be allocated carefully instead of spammed? (I don't play PVP so I don't really know much about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckyBandit Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Cowgirl said: What if manas themselves took damage when they froze tames and players so that the freezing would have to be allocated carefully instead of spammed? (I don't play PVP so I don't really know much about it) The freeze beam either needs to lose a ton of it's damage or the ability to freeze PvP targets altogether. The combination of high damage and paralysis will always be unbalanced as all hell. Maybe if they were a slow creature that combination could be tolerable, but its also the fastest damn thing in the game. So it warps to you in the blink of an eye and as soon as it lands a few extremely quick hits with the freeze its game over. DDOS/duping, meshing, and manas are what break this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, St1ckyBandit said: The freeze beam either needs to lose a ton of it's damage or the ability to freeze PvP targets altogether. The combination of high damage and paralysis will always be unbalanced as all hell. I honestly dont understand why they dont remove the ability to freeze targets. It would honestly be the easiest fix surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzourin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I spent an hour and a half watching a stream of someone defending their server against a major raid. Guess how many mana's I saw? None. In fact half the video was the streamer running around trying to pick giga, velon, and tape riders on a ptera. I also saw argies in the pick war too. Mana's are used only in skirmishing. I was a bit sad to see no tropeo's though. I also saw more snow owl's then i did anything else the dive bomb game was real lawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipRavage Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 19 hours ago, AngrySaltire said: I honestly dont understand why they dont remove the ability to freeze targets. It would honestly be the easiest fix surely ? I’d say swap it so that rode or tamed Dino’s take the slowed debuff that ice wyverns give with their breath instead. Pulling the freeze all together will just make them useless when it comes to hitting fast moving targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owataday Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 21 hours ago, Renzourin said: I spent an hour and a half watching a stream of someone defending their server against a major raid. Guess how many mana's I saw? None. In fact half the video was the streamer running around trying to pick giga, velon, and tape riders on a ptera. I also saw argies in the pick war too. Mana's are used only in skirmishing. I was a bit sad to see no tropeo's though. I also saw more snow owl's then i did anything else the dive bomb game was real lawl. Maybe they should of supported the tanks and gigas with a mana. Then that streamer would have no chance. Anyways I think we can all agree that more counters to a mana rider is needed. Creatures that can be breed need weaknesses. Everyone has capped saddles on them, so I don’t even bother shooting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorThatchRich Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 1:59 AM, RipRavage said: Isn't the general consensus that manas hold the title of "THIS RUINED ARK" and have since they stole that crown from wyverns? There is no balancing or progression in this game, tons of creatures are rendered completely obsolete by end game dinos, the variety is just there for people like myself that enjoy a bit of role play now and then. The PVP meta is stale and boring and it always will be because of stuff like manas and wyverns. Don't wanna deal with it, go play on a server that doesn't allow transfers and doesn't spawn manas. Literally the only reason people use dinos like Rexes or Spinos is because Gigas can't go into most boss fights, thats about as close to balancing as this game actually has. My problem I have with Tropeos is how broken their taming is, it can go to crap real fast with the beat it into recovery mode method (Which is a exploit) and the standard method of taming literally takes 15 hours currently on PC. At least have the stupid things actually work before you throw the useless crap into your games. Going even further back into the classics... The Baryonx! I lure bad Manna riders into the water. Tail whip them off. Deploy my (another classic) Megatherium. Then tank the Manna. Hasnt failed me once. One guy was so surprised he gave me a manna. And yes they are cheap. So veeery cheap. I just had to freeze people. So I drowned the Manna. Hopped back on my classic Baryonx as to save my REAL PvP skills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorThatchRich Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I think certain players are becoming obsolete because of end game tames. I'm unwipable and I just have the classics tames. If it's not on the Center, I don't care to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipRavage Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, IgorThatchRich said: Going even further back into the classics... The Baryonx! I lure bad Manna riders into the water. Tail whip them off. Deploy my (another classic) Megatherium. Then tank the Manna. Hasnt failed me once. One guy was so surprised he gave me a manna. And yes they are cheap. So veeery cheap. I just had to freeze people. So I drowned the Manna. Hopped back on my classic Baryonx as to save my REAL PvP skills... Always nice to see smart usage of the Baryonyx, he may be a utility player, but he is also the MVP in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetzen Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 My Trope grind no longer hard poly from Swat gear only organic now! Is it a bug bc there is nothing in the Patchnotes. Xbox official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkyboy11 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I mean all im saying is that the Tropeo is a cool dino that literally has jets and grenades so its all cool and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnm81 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 A mana can swim faster than a wyverns or trope can fly... Let that soak in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cito Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Idk what y’all taking about but I play official pvp and use tropes and they cannot be caught by anything and also fire at a higher range than manas. Iv killed players off manas by picking them and firing a Grenade, rip flak. Can attack anyone trying to quetzal bomb. And griffin ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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