deedoubleu Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Ty for changed race timers, but now it's even worse. Wave ray 64, oh man... Before "fix" is was obviously impossible and no sane person bothered with it after couple of tries. Now it gives you false hope, because technically it's doable, but! you need a perfect run and have no artificial obstacles. by those I mean: - rafts on your path have 3 on my server. First is at the start and you bump into it slightly, last one is right in front of finishing checkpoint. - buff is not prolonged if going through another booster while still under influence still here. I'm certain people who placed checkpoints and boosters relied on boost prolongation to work properly because there are few occasions of 2 boosters being close together in a way that you will always miss effect of one of them. So you either have boost from only one of them or need to drop speed for previous to run out, either way you lose time. - contact with water surface will sometimes drop your speed to a crawl while similar conditions in other place will send you gliding keeping accumulated speed - ramp friction shouldn't ramp be slick and send you flying without slowing down? atm it can just stop you on a dime no matter if you going straight into it, jumping right before or landing on a slope after jump. Feels like rough concrete and I expected to see a trail of my manta intestines behind me after jumping those ramps. Occasionally it would work as expected. Inconsistent and rare. Race should be about my skill or lack of it, not luck of it. - sharp turns I get it, it worked flawlessly in isolated test level on LAN with 0 server ping, no other players, tames or structures. In real server scenario though it will make 130 degree turn nearly and often impossible. Borders everywhere only make it worse, as if rocks wasn't enough. Again, borders have very high friction and most of the time will mess you up if you touch it. - manta is warpy as hell goes with previous point. Often it's just uncontrollable and moves in a series of tiny teleportations. First it's too soon to turn and next thing you see is you overshooting the turn and getting stuck in a rock with nothing inbetween. Even in open space on huge soft turn you will warp around instead of continuous fluid motion. I don't believe you can fix server performance or manta movement, but maybe you can change it to dolphin or change the route? - jump command is not being registered as simple as that. have to spam it to make sure I will jump over border instead of restarting the mission. And no, there is nothing wrong with my keyboard, se e? So. If you can finish a run on alpha without encountering at least 1 of listed above, then you are luckier man than I am and I salute you, but so far it just feels like i'm trying to poop out a bowling ball - no joy in process and kinda seems impossible. UPD: Wow, I liked to think that you are trying, but that is clearly not the case. Blitz, one of few races that was possible on alpha difficulty before "fix" is impossible now. I wish person who came up with new timers would not be able to have a bathroom break before they finish this race on alpha on live server. Heck, try to beat it even in lab conditions you was supposed to test it in. Mods, for the love of dodo, please, tell them using random averaged timing doesn't work. They. Need. To. Test. It. I can tell them what's the timing for perfect run (0 mistakes and straight line between every 2 continuous checkpoints) for blitz and even how to get faster than that, but as I said in one of previous rants - I'm not doing their job for free anymore. Payment in high level rex or theri is acceptable. Argh, I'm so pissed I need to take a break from genesis until another fix attempt patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSpartan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I beat the Alpha Manta race my first try today. Bottle Nosed Blitz is the impossible one as they decreased the timer on that one for no reason and i'm pissed as can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 from what the OP is saying from their discription it sounds like lag is playing a part in some of those which can cause undesired effects, i've had lag spikes let me pass strait through the boost rings without getting any boost, and no jump back, only reason i knew there was a lag spike was all the 1's that followed in chat. the lag really messes with the ramps as well and can cause you to fall short on the jump. just gotta try the races when the server has the least amount of lag for you on official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckyBandit Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, NovaSpartan said: I beat the Alpha Manta race my first try today. Bottle Nosed Blitz is the impossible one as they decreased the timer on that one for no reason and i'm pissed as can be. Same thing with my bread and butter race, rhino 500. They decreased it to 55 seconds, a whopping 20 seconds faster than my best time of 1:15. It's hopelessly impossible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSpartan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, St1ckyBandit said: Same thing with my bread and butter race, rhino 500. They decreased it to 55 seconds, a whopping 20 seconds faster than my best time of 1:15. It's hopelessly impossible now. Um, that's kind of bizarre. Are you on PC because it's not 55 seconds for me. It's around a 1:20 seconds for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckyBandit Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, NovaSpartan said: Um, that's kind of bizarre. Are you on PC because it's not 55 seconds for me. It's around a 1:20 seconds for me. I'm on ps4. The alpha time this morning was 55 seconds. Dont know if its been reverted or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSpartan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, St1ckyBandit said: I'm on ps4. The alpha time this morning was 55 seconds. Dont know if its been reverted or what I'm on PC. The times have been mismatched on the different platforms so i'm not sure why they changed in on PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkholis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just did the alpha "Dead Heat" and received a crafted titanosaur saddle.... I mean DILO?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted March 14, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, tbfrnritunbv6 said: Alpha Manta is perfectly doable ... in SP. I can imagine all the issues on a server make it a lot more difficult. It's perfectly doable on servers as much as it is SP, but the problem is official server lag. Do it on any non-official server and it's perfectly doable. As with many things like this the problem is the official server rather than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedoubleu Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 Guys who finished manta on new time, you can do it reliably 10/10? No matter how I tried my best was just before or at finishing ramp, which dropped my speed so that didn't help. I can see myself finishing this race, but that would be 1/30 attempts. If you race blitz all day every day for a week you can finish it too still, but that is not how it supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkholis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 @deedoubleu I can easily on PC reliably. My best time is 2:01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiiiLy Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I don't understand why they can't put the players that are doing the missions into another instance of the world that has no structures and dinos to get in the way of the mission. It would get rid of the mission build prevention in some areas that don't need it and could help us do these missions without some BS happening. I'm not sure if it would be too taxing on a system to do this but its better than making cool areas of the map uninhabitable and making the missions harder for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ndie Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Alpha Bottle-nosed is impossible now. I have done 3 perfect runs and each one was too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckyBandit Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 hours ago, dv8ndie said: Alpha Bottle-nosed is impossible now. I have done 3 perfect runs and each one was too slow. Thats weird I was unable to even come close to alpha Manta but Alpha Blitz I did successfully a few times, albeit right at the buzzer every time. Im on ps4 btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ndie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, St1ckyBandit said: Thats weird I was unable to even come close to alpha Manta but Alpha Blitz I did successfully a few times, albeit right at the buzzer every time. Im on ps4 btw LMAO And I can get Alpha Manta done.... I'm on PC. I've come to the conclusion that we are part of a cruel joke by WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogyoogy1 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I was not even able to do beta bottle nosed blitz due to the frames in the race, collectively I spent around 30 seconds or more of the race on a frozen screen. Ps4 btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gengar99 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I have been spamming alpha ray for 45 minutes or so for 3 days and I have literally even touched the finish line and not gotten a complete for it. the lag is absolutely horrendous, and I end up even with perfect runs being 2 seconds too short to finish the race because of lag spikes rendering my ray a stuttering mess. official needs a race time buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Gengar99 said: I have been spamming alpha ray for 45 minutes or so for 3 days and I have literally even touched the finish line and not gotten a complete for it. the lag is absolutely horrendous, and I end up even with perfect runs being 2 seconds too short to finish the race because of lag spikes rendering my ray a stuttering mess. official needs a race time buff. when you hit the final ramp on official servers, in order for the race to complete you need at least 5 seconds left on the timer, any less and it will not register as completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I cant do any of the race missions past gamma. I didnt buy this game for races. Its not my style of game play. I tried for 6 hours to do the Manta on beta and just couldnt do it. Kind of sucks because without the race missions I wont be able to do the bigger boss fights. So, an aspect of the game I will not be able to participate in because of stupid race missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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