TLC 3 announcement and what you want for it

[AllOfTheAllos]

Adjustment of the rex saddle is what I want. So that it suits tek rexes just as well as it does normal ones - the way it is now some straps are clipping through the tek rex and some bits of tek rex are clipping through the saddle. Or maybe an easily obtainable skin for the rex saddle that makes it fit better on tek rexes. It may seem unimportant, but I ride tek rexes A LOT, so it gets pretty annoying for me.

[Udam]

TLC ideas!  UPDATED!

 

some of these are from my old post but i updated them!

 Land:

• Sabertooth: "new Look , able to Sneak to do bonus damage (and can Hold Small size prey if pounced) and able to move and jump side to side"
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• Mammoth: Able to shoot water out, new look , platform saddle , and a herd boost" (water dose damage and if its cold water then it will slowly freeze the dino) and give boost against the cold so you don't freeze 
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•  Carno: able to turn around in a 360 to attack targets behind you, When Ruining you move faster and if you Attack while running you do a charge, Rage is gain each time he is hit and once Full he will do extra Damage and More damage resistance but food will drain much faster, Kick! due to its Strong legs it can do a Very strong kick to stun!
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• Thorny Dragon: Same look but Spikes look more sharper, Able to Activate Turret mode and keeps its tail in the air to fire, Spikes do as much damage as Arrows, Better gather , Able to Rapid fire spikes, AOE Spike shot, able to attack while running
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• Carbonemys: new look , able to hide in shell , able to flip on his back and spin like a saw blade but its nearly uncontrollable, a snapping turtle jaw that allows it to eat fish meat, Somewhat faster Swimming and able to spin in water.
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• Megaloceros, increases size (2xs to be exact ) and new look , male able to kick in the back, gets a outnumbered effect where if there's more creatures that can hurt it i gets stronger, and antlers cause Bleed, Female Increase Carry weight , Able to kick back and causes males to be more aggressive
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• Bronto: "new look, Fixed feet, neck stands up tall , able to destroy stone (With Heavy Stomp!)  stomp heavy attack , tail wack , Front Bash and able to Stand on its Feet, The Giga of Herbivores"
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• . Stego:"new look ,  Able to hold its atack to do even more damage , new look , a roar to recruit wild Stegos to your side like the yuty, herd boost, alpha gets a stun effect". better run (similar to Kentro), And Bite!
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• Terror bird: armor piercing 15%, new look, Claw scratch , more prime meat gathering, pack boost with call". when Hovering in the air they can do a Scratch with both claws in mid air and causes Bleed"
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• Titanoboa:" Both Venomous and a constrictor, ride able , Breed able , Able to Grapple on Big dinos and sufficient them and bite for torpor, able to get eggs without Agro".
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• Spider: "Able to climb walls , Uses webs to reinforce Buildings with its webs , Faster speed, Jump, A stamina drain bite, able to shoot webs and weakens effected target and new look".
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•  Frog: "auto lock on Bugs and increase damage to all bugs and new look". able to get Prime meat from bugs. Bug killing boost. and gather More Past when killing bigger bugs.
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• Theryzenio: new look, Claw Combo (like tek claws. they get faster and faster when Slashing)
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• Giga: "Rage can be controlled by trying to claim it down but if it keeps taking damage it will get mad, when it roars is weaken enemies for 1 min with cool down' when done raging it will get a tired effect where Stamina Gets low and torpor rises AND new look"
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• Diplodocus: "not able to directly but can crack its tail like a wipe, can make even the biggest carnivore run! Decrease Weight on Natural resources and new look".
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• Patchy: " slight size increases, Causes More torpor, new look, increases Damage resistance, Pack boost , and Can break Doors not gates (note: only low end doors) and can Gather up stone, flint and Metal as a Early on Anky
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• Scorpion: new look, buttons for claws and Stinger, able to produce narcoice's per hour, able to Inject KO dinos with Venom. and a AOE Tail Spin 
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•  Monkey: New look , and Has A crafting Skin that can help You when you craft stuff. 
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• Dimetrodon: Acts like A living trough For Babies ,Keeps the Area Cool or warm, easier tame, Plays with babys to Up imprint (has cool down)
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• Paracer: Able to Back Kick Like A GIANT horse , new look , and Has 25% Armor, more trample, Neck WIPE!
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• Kapro: New look and Able to Jump high, Pounce does more damage Agents Big Dinos and Flyers, able to Punch off the kapro, and takes no fall damage.
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• Anky : New look and Smother animations a GATHER option Like moschops. to gather different resources and it could be a bit more viable for combat!
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• Dode: New look and smoother animations  a GATHER option like moscops. to gather stuff! and when it rolls you can turn it and it could be like a base game rolerat "but not good for structures And saddle could be built/look like the rolerat saddle
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• Baryonyx: able to uses its claws on land, Timer for Tail spin for spam, Does more damage against water dinos, New look , Heals super quick if it eats prime fish
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• Perlova: Able to ride and Berrow Underground Like A basilisk But Not as Good and new look
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• Morellatops: Able to Upgrade water tank, three seat saddle, Reduced wight on Resources, able to shoot Water that dose a Nice knock back, Damage and Can put out fires. upgraded animations 
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• Chailco: New look, and option to throw poop, AOE slamb, can feed berrys to tame but beer is still better.
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• Dillo: Able to ride due to it being slightly bigger then a Pachy, Your first carnivore, Better Spit range, Bite that drains a Bit of Stamina, Slight faster, new look , Able to shoot your frill and it will scare away Small or mid dinos. able to jump. weak in terms of Hp but they heal faster if you give them Narcos.
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• Dung beetle able to pick up poop
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• Bigfoot able to hold tools 
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• Diens running way/ Random passive Flee, Can spawn Randomly in the wild but if two Mate boosted ones are next to each other they make a Nest like A beaver dam
• Thylo: claw swipe, Better Climb , Fast Claw swipe
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• Enforcer: Have Natural Armor, Drones can Repair, Feeding it element makes it go into "overdrive" its 3Xs stronger!
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• Phiomias: drops Prime meat at least 2 , Phiomias would Drop a unique kind of Poop called Phiomia Droppings," when feed to a dung Beetle you get more fertilizer and Netro which is a substitute for Gunpowder" 
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• Megalania: able to spawn on the surface (mostly Swamps) , can spit a venom like dillo that Poisons People/Dinos , rabies can infect dinos, able to Attack Wild animals, 
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• Kentro: able to ride with a specially made saddle, like the thorny dragon , but with the saddle it does less damage when attacked 
• Gailli: able to double jump! wight is reduced, new look , and saddle acts like a mix of a smith and a moder and pestle. 
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• daeodon: able to spawn in mountains, Swamps and rarely redwoods   ,allow it  can eat veggies as well, better Heal then Owl , Grants a regen buff when tame in healing circle that grants 5xs Natural  HP and Stamina regen 
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• Ichyornus/seagull: they don't attack if unless you attack it. get able to retrieve items and even resources like wood. and gives fishing boost so you can get loot!
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• Sacro: Big boost in HP and damage resistance
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• Iguanodon:" harvest crops for you!, gathers more seeds , rare flowers and mushrooms! able to gather rare flower seeds  , rare mushroom spores, and on AB you can get the spores to grow your shrooms!, better at combat so its a Nice combat herbivore, and when running you can Hold melee and it will do into a Dash where its runs on its toes and can do Slashes when running.
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• Beaver: new look:  "able to build dams and can turn wood into "pulp" witch can be a substitute for Cementing paste" 
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• Compy: new look , when it bites you/anything it gains a bit of HP. has a bite that lowers stam, and is Super Attracted to Corpse's and travel in Big numbers!
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• Diplocaulus: Size decrease enough for it to ride your shoulder  , same ability with the water, It emits a Smell that used emits a smell that make animals ignore you or run away. 
• or it normal size and it when you ride it in water it can insta Kill  trilobites  and eurypterids and can get a ton of chitin , pearls , black pearls and more!
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• Allo: new look , Less stomping sounds, able to uses it claws! and able to gather a nice bit of prime meat!. Able to climb harder/sloped surfaces with ease (like Tek boots) . and a small jump! like raptor! and reduce fall damage due to them living in the mountains. 
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• Archy: able to ride your shoulder but it you jump from a height like 4 walls high it acts like if you wear holding him!
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• kiruku: Able to gather fish for you! and allows eggs to stay at a certain time like 75% 50% 25% or even 1% so it can hold it for you (no matter the size) and new look! also lays eggs like DODO's!
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• Troodon: it makes a loud Clicking sound when hunting you! and it stalks you! Slightly easier to tame. you can drop fertile eggs and they will kill them and give it! and when it bites Dinos they take more damage!
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• Jerboa: able to alert you to any near by predators (depends on size) 
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• Hestorois/duck: lays Golden eggs more time depends on size of fish! or number: (it can lay even two) and a hunt ability that allows it to hunt fish! and pirana's fear them!
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• Megatherium: same ability but if he eats Bugs you can get Oil and rarely organic polly (only from bigger bugs) slam Attack thats does a AOE effect
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• Microraptor: when they see you they screech and they have a stun lock where if you get knock off once it takes 30 secs before they can do it again!
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• Moschops: Able to gather Fish! new look , and new resources and can get prime meat or fish meat from any animal!
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• Pachyrhino: new look!, Attack dose small KO damage! and two ways to emit gas! blast: shoots it forward! and AOE ,  also makes you emin to any gas/chemical effect's!  also able to use new gas and change the types. Pacify: makes dino's that attack you avoid you! Rage: makes dinos have a effect like the ammonite bile and but the dinos won't attack you. just each other or whatever you effected. Allie: much like the yuty roar wear it can alli Wild carnos. this gas can turn a wild dino on your side for around 3 mins. (some dinos are not affected) and Adrenalin: acts like a Weaken Yuty Boost! its gives a small HP heal and Damage resistance boost!
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• Megalo: New look, able to Move around during the day if they slept enough. able to spawn on the surface. "hunting vision" when its night give a hint of night vision, and dinos are Highlighted with a Red Glow much like a tek helmet (just not as advance can't go through walls) More quiet when moving! and can attack nearly anything if it gets close!
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• Snail: Able to feed Berries , able to make more Paste and polly. also its able to grow a organic form of "absorbent Subtract and silica"
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• Rex: a bloodthirsty effect: happens when you kill a dino it increases damage just a bit but causes it to heal a bit faster and more damage resistance.( goes by % and bigger/stronger the dino the more % you get so if you kill like 10 dodos you can get 0.50%
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• trike: Takes 85% less damage when attacked in the front (arrows do nothing but bullets still can)  when attacked head first!, Rivalry is boosted, and bigger dinos like rexs , Brontos , spinos etc when they are rammed by the trike get slown and the gash effect! 
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• Raptor: Jump Height increase, able to jump when attacking in the wild (like a ravager), natural pack boost! and able to "jump attack" when they have their claws out and causes more damage!
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• Pego: able to get boost when looking in drops!
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• Woolly rhino: Able to have charge attack (like the trike) and has a small damage resistance do to there hide , Able to harvest ATON of thatch, and can even Harvest Stone and Metal but not as good as a Anky!
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• Reaper: A small boost in damage. Different Tails can have different Abilities! (Barb tail: Shoots small barbs like the reaper queen , Acid Bomb: Almost like the base tail attack but the falls fall and they blow up into a ball of acid kinda like when the reaper dies but smaller. Able to Roar!
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• Titanosaur: ok this one is debatable but i have a Few ideas! but here's the base idea
• new LOOK , Able to weck Spikes and anything under his feet!, NEW attack Tail whip! has natural armor like Reaper.  Last Much longer then TITAN!`
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• Otter: Able to gather more Pearls , and deals 40X damage against Fish!  Hunt option for fish! wild otters hunt fish!  
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• Ravager: Does Bleed like Dien even when tamed but only the alpha
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• Human: Better models and can change look kinda like in Atlas body, Muscles, fat , Face , Eyes , Size etc. Human Hotbox are Equal,  Humans have 200 wight to spawn with, movement speed is based off "Adrenalin" from fast dinos and if your about to die, able to eat while underwater or in mid air, they have a Base tempager so you don't just walk in the snow and then just Instant ice cub.  
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• Defense Unit: Able to build on Extinction and use (called defenders) they are the Tanks for Robots, able to Role and Jump, Slash , heavy slash, and a Overdrive move where the claws become Shock claws and they do more Damage. 
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• Magmasaur: natural armor, Better smelting (not as good as a Industrial forge but its not as slow as a Refinery Forge), Much better melee, Reduced Damage to Tek and metal but with enough time! you can destroy it.
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• Bloodstalker: Able to Give a Bit of blood back to you if you are hurt (just heal 3xs faster then normal)
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• Ferox: in the wild the can go crazy!, Able to feed element Shards as well but you need alot! , Slam does more Knockback!
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• Leech: when you gain swamp fever it will go away over time and you gain a Sligh immunity for like a hour, if you have a Torch and Melee it will kill them if they are on you!

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Air:

• Moth: Able to Produce Silk and is Able to Change Its Gas From Pharmons , to make everything Go berserk , to A Blinding Gas and Even and A fertilized one where it Helps Crops Grow like a Crop Duster, able to Land on walls like a Tappy and more stamina 
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• Quetzal: "new look, increase stamina the higher you are, adrenaline effect allows it to move much Faster for a lot and all resources from metal ingots to buildings wight is cut by 75%, able to Flap wings like wyvern to get stuff away
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• Griffin: Roar/screech that Weakens enemies Damage resistance!  able to attack wild dinos!
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• ".Pteranodon: "new look ,Able to dive like a owl, able to dive in the water to kill fish, and able to Grapple on walls". can give down. if attacked in a group they will attack you and try to pick you up, and Can "swim" for a While.
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• Pelagornis: "able to dive underwater for a short period of time, get a boost when fishing , when eating fish you can get Organic polly , oil , chittn , prime fish meat , leech blood and ammonite bile , able to get organic polly by killing dodos but if you kill anything that has natural polly on them you get 3x more. also megalodons ,  ichthys and leeds swim way from them due to them being one of their predators 
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• Wyvern: Able to breed but only in the Wyvern Trench. New look for Lightning and Fire, able to Hold Fire to keep Breathing their element, and have Cross hair
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• Bat: size decrease (at least the Size of a Vulture) To ride your shoulder, and can spawn in jungles and swamps, cam Breed , can land on the ground, gain pack boost
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• Tappy: can move on walls like a thylo, and Wight from players is reduced.
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• Dimmoth: new look and able to gain a bit of HP when it eats fresh meat, gain pack boost
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• Managarmer: shoots a Ray or ring that does the freeze, Able to hover in mid air, more melee damage.
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• Rock Drake: More Raw damage , Able to breed but only in the Drake den in a Radioactive areas and Must have 100 element Ore.

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Water:

•  Basilo: AOE heal abilty for water but Cost food!, Has a O2 bar so you can survive deep under the water, Able to carry two people.
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• Jellyfish: "A timer to stun you and your able to swim away"
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• Angler: "New look and Able in increases and decreases Light and able to scare off eels and jellyfish way"
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• Mosa: "New look, Tail attack for the Back". and able to do a roar that acts like a yuty roar (only the fear) part but it weakens dinos instead of making them go out of control. Move Quickly when going up or down.
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• Piranha: Acts like hyena attacks if your weak  and new look.
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• Plesio: able to stick its head out of the water, new look , able to turn in a 360 to attack., and Flipper Slap that knocks dinos back, head Retracks to its body so if a Dino is attacking you he can get his head in the right area to attack, and has a very high Melee Length 
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• Megalodon:" new look , able to sense weak enemies Like the wolf, a Heath boost when eating a corps, Feeding frenzy Buff when killing alot of animals, much better turn, Tons of Teeth!
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• Manta: able to do a 360 attack and gets a pack boost new look! can tame with meat.
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• Duncle: able to get metal , crystal and obsidian from oil rocks, 100% Armor Penetration, can Slowy Digest rocks into a Sack to shoot Rocks at a Very high Speed! like a Catapult!. Craft them in its inventory with Oil , Rock and Obsidian 
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• Eel: Able to ride with a Specal saddle.
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• Leoperodon: normal version is Stronger then the meglodon , move faster , and more deadly. then the "Magical one" that is the Same as the one we have.
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• Eurypterid: Able to be tamed and ride!, size increase , New look and animations, Able to "snap its Claws" to make the nearby water "boiled" to kill prey! also has a boost roar like the yuty! can't go on land.
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• Leeds: Size increase. can be tamed! But it's Hard!. Able to ride!  slight new look , Has teeth like sperm whale! Able to Jump out of water like a whale! can Ride! can harvest meat from it! and also loot can be found in him much like a supply drop if you kill a wild one.

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[Zahlea]

4 hours ago, captyarrr said:

• Ironed out bugs from the past 5 years
• DLCs tested before they roll out
• "No build zones" without any bases 
• CoC to be uphold AND actively enforced
• Official statements on THIS FORUM, not a vague Twittermessage

You do know that "TLC 3" refers to Creature TLC, right? That is, this post only has to do with changes to creatures. You might want to create your own post complaining about other things you don't like. Or just reply to one of the countless threads for each of those points.

[Darkholis]

7 hours ago, Frost027 said:

First, Scorched Earth came out 4 years ago, and basically nothing has been done to the Wyvern for all that time.

Second, compared to other creatures, to some people Wyverns can be underwhelming. Very. People prefer to ride around on Snow Owls to fight manas with plant Z because manas SHRED Wyverns. Nearly NO ONE uses them because of this one thing. That and some people think; Why use a wyvern when I can use a 16k hp Snow Owl with a 90 armor saddle? They're one of the coolest tames in the game, and yet barely anyone uses them.

And no, the Procoptodon and Argen are not the "best tames" to have in the current meta. The only thing you use an Argen for is farming, and picking someone out of a mek. The Procop offers nothing to PvP other than very early game

Everybody who's been around as SE knows it was a half finished product for a quick cash flow for the company because of the lawsuit... Most of the engrams/creatures are useless outside of SE and Ragnarok was pretty much the last nail in its coffin.

You are entitled to your opinion and obviously you are stubborn on manas being the main issue in this game.

You also seems completely blind to some other game breaking issues in PvP, namely meks, titans, magmasaurs, just to name these 3. The balance of this game has always been heavily tipped towards attackers and it's getting VERY old. Let's also mention that offline raiding has always been the meta, because who loves to have the loot popcorned...

** If you hate manas so much, you might as well go play on MTS where they are disabled altogether. **

[Frost027]

1 hour ago, Darkholis said:

Everybody who's been around as SE knows it was a half finished product for a quick cash flow for the company because of the lawsuit... Most of the engrams/creatures are useless outside of SE and Ragnarok was pretty much the last nail in its coffin.

You are entitled to your opinion and obviously you are stubborn on manas being the main issue in this game.

You also seems completely blind to some other game breaking issues in PvP, namely meks, titans, magmasaurs, just to name these 3. The balance of this game has always been heavily tipped towards attackers and it's getting VERY old. Let's also mention that offline raiding has always been the meta, because who loves to have the loot popcorned...

** If you hate manas so much, you might as well go play on MTS where they are disabled altogether. **

I am the last person on this Earth who is blind to all of the garbage balancing in this game. This game is fundamentally broken in so many ways, namely breeding. Today I just decided to rant about manas. And no, I don't think I should ever have to retreat to an unofical to be able to enjoy the game

[Darkholis]

9 minutes ago, Frost027 said:

I am the last person on this Earth who is blind to all of the garbage balancing in this game. This game is fundamentally broken in so many ways, namely breeding. Today I just decided to rant about manas. And no, I don't think I should ever have to retreat to an unofical to be able to enjoy the game

Seems like you have a high opinion of yourself and/or fail to read what others are typing...

[Frost027]

Just now, Darkholis said:

Seems like you have a high opinion of yourself and/or fail to read what others are typing...

No, you said "It seems you're blind to the other issues in this game"

What? When was this ever mentioned? We were talking about the balancing issue with manas

Seems you're the one failing to read what others are typing, if you're just going to go at me like that on a topic that isn't relevant at all

[Darkholis]

@Frost027 I'll return you the comment. All you did is ask for wyverns to be revamped knowing perfectly it won't happen, then went on a rant about manas, which serves no purpose in this thread.

[Frost027]

If you understood why I said they should get the TLC, the entire reason is a counter to manas. And I explained why they need a counter? lol

[Darkholis]

I understood your point and agree with it. My point is they won't receive a TLC because WC stated multiple times that only pre-DLC creatures are eligible.

[Tobyv23]

Definitely the Megalodon for sure. I would like it to have a new model, be as large as the Mosasaurus, and have the ability to breach.

 

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/megalodon-71633d42acf14e6b92fde55652e837d1 That should be the model

[Demerus]

Boss loot in arenas similar to how rewards work by killing titans on EXT

[Udam]

26 minutes ago, Demerus said:

Boss loot in arenas similar to how rewards work by killing titans on EXT

yes please 

[Udam]

21 hours ago, Darkholis said:

I understood your point and agree with it. My point is they won't receive a TLC because WC stated multiple times that only pre-DLC creatures are eligible.

thats kinda bs

 

i mean with Dinos from ab , Ext and Gen yeah i understand

 

but some Dinos from SE should be updated cuz some of them suck..... Moth, thorny dragon and Morralo.

[Darkholis]

@Udam I agree 100% mate but WC themselves stated that SE was a "finished product".

[Scribelord]

11 hours ago, Udam said:

thats kinda bs

 

i mean with Dinos from ab , Ext and Gen yeah i understand

 

but some Dinos from SE should be updated cuz some of them suck..... Moth, thorny dragon and Morralo.

Technically the scorched earth creatures released BEFORE the base game was actually finished so they could maybe be considered 

[Kwikwilyaqa]

On 3/13/2020 at 6:34 PM, Udam said:

thats kinda bs

i mean with Dinos from ab , Ext and Gen yeah i understand

but some Dinos from SE should be updated cuz some of them suck..... Moth, thorny dragon and Morralo.

BS at his finest. Even some stuff in aberration need some level of TLC. Look at roll rats, that texture looks like $%¨& and they are not as good gatherers as the good old Ravager+Chainsaw and the damn saddle keeps breaking when you try to use the only good ability it have because it hits EVERYTHING (there is no "clear" space in AB. all the damn place have rocks and dinos). Ravagers are not pack animal by any means - they cannot follow properly, get stuck everywhere (rocks, small steps, vegetation, etc), fail to use lines in groups larger than 2, and to this date they get stuck after kill anything smaller than a T-Rex looking down... they need some love for sure, after all, they are aberration at his best. I feel the saddle needs some new models, not the Ravagers (probably one more color region for the nails to call the models finished), because even the skin looks garbage.

Extinction only can be left out because all 4 (and the titans) are nicely designed with some level of uniqueness and have good models overall (Owls could STFU for a bit longer - not only them, all sound loops needs to be tune down A LOT)...

SE always need some level of TLC too. Poison looks ok, but the other wyverns doesn't look so good (look at the spikes in the lower jaw of the fire wyvern... disgustingly half-done models). Mantis is useless because of the rate it break tools (and the sound bugs that was never fixed) and not even can be brought to AB, the only ark i feel it can be a decent gimmick since damn ankys are so bad to gather crystals (because they are slow to go from node to node) and metal is everywhere (so you actually don't need an anky to be rich AF). Vulture inventory is broken still to this date... Moth, Thorny and Morella are pretty much useless too, i agree. In the end SE have only wyverns with some level of usability (glass cannons)... If not a TLC, SE needs a patch. A long, long waited patch...

[Udam]

19 hours ago, Kwikwilyaqa said:

BS at his finest. Even some stuff in aberration need some level of TLC. Look at roll rats, that texture looks like $%¨& and they are not as good gatherers as the good old Ravager+Chainsaw and the damn saddle keeps breaking when you try to use the only good ability it have because it hits EVERYTHING (there is no "clear" space in AB. all the damn place have rocks and dinos). Ravagers are not pack animal by any means - they cannot follow properly, get stuck everywhere (rocks, small steps, vegetation, etc), fail to use lines in groups larger than 2, and to this date they get stuck after kill anything smaller than a T-Rex looking down... they need some love for sure, after all, they are aberration at his best. I feel the saddle needs some new models, not the Ravagers (probably one more color region for the nails to call the models finished), because even the skin looks garbage.

Extinction only can be left out because all 4 (and the titans) are nicely designed with some level of uniqueness and have good models overall (Owls could STFU for a bit longer - not only them, all sound loops needs to be tune down A LOT)...

SE always need some level of TLC too. Poison looks ok, but the other wyverns doesn't look so good (look at the spikes in the lower jaw of the fire wyvern... disgustingly half-done models). Mantis is useless because of the rate it break tools (and the sound bugs that was never fixed) and not even can be brought to AB, the only ark i feel it can be a decent gimmick since damn ankys are so bad to gather crystals (because they are slow to go from node to node) and metal is everywhere (so you actually don't need an anky to be rich AF). Vulture inventory is broken still to this date... Moth, Thorny and Morella are pretty much useless too, i agree. In the end SE have only wyverns with some level of usability (glass cannons)... If not a TLC, SE needs a patch. A long, long waited patch...

well for Fun i though of some extra TLC for the DLC dinos

Morellatops: Able to Upgrade water tank, three seat saddle, Reduced wight on Resources, able to shoot Water that dose a Nice knock back, Damage and Can put out fires. upgraded animations 

Moth: Able to Produce Silk and is Able to Change Its Gas From Pharmons , to make everything Go berserk , to A Blinding Gas and Even and A fertilized one where it Helps Crops Grow like a Crop Duster and can Hold gas then flying to Gas a Whole area. and can be upgraded with Oxygen bar 

Mantis: Able to Have armor, shields, Jump , Able to breed and new look.

 Thorny Dragon: Same look but Spikes look more sharper, Able to Activate Turret mode and keeps its tail in the air to fire, Spikes do as much damage as Arrows, Better gather , Able to Rapid fire spikes, AOE Spike shot, able to attack while running.

Jerboa: Able to Chirp when enemies are close 

Rock golem: Can have different color Rocks on it. can Breed but it Cost a TON of resources and its VERY SLOW. Able to Turn into Rubble Golems when fully Grown then they have to Sit in Rock form For a Very long time.

Wyvern: Able to breed but only in the Wyvern Trench. New look for Lightning and Fire, able to Hold Fire to keep Breathing their element, and have Cross hair

Deathworm: Able to Spit Large amount of Bile that acts like Reaper Acid, spawn Different levels, can tame but Cost A dino (like trodon) and can make a Large saddle that looks like a Box, can Brow (Big maybe)

 

Ravager: Bleed attack only with claw swipe or alpha Base attack (bleed is just the same as Deinonychus but doesn't stack and is added when tamed)

Basilisk: Tail wipe that does Nice knock back, able to breed but takes as Long as a Rex , Able to feed it normal fertilized Eggs but LOVES drake and magma Eggs.

Reaper: able to breed but it needs a Female reaper (that spawns with Queen tail but has same stats as a Tamed reaper just different tail) you have to mate them , wait 5 mins , she will be enraged, Must weaken her to impregnate (can Kill her), after the deed is done she will fall asleep.

Crab: able to breed (Just like the Bloodstaker but takes as long as a Rex), Better AOE attack.

Rock Drake: More Raw damage , Able to breed but only in the Drake den in a Radioactive areas and Must have 100 element Ore.

Rolerat: Able to tame with berries but takes a While.

new Aberrant Dinos: (BIG MAYBE) AB Chailico , AB kentro , Ab Ovieraptor , Ab Deer , AB Kangaroo , AB Patchyrhino , AB Thylo , AB Megalania, AB spider and AB-V Deinonychus (only Valgro)

Mangarmer: Better melee Damage, Ray Base Shot rather then Laser and Able to Hover in mid air.

Mek: better Jump and  Homing Missiles on the Missile Pods  

Defender/Defense Unit: Able to ride in bottom part where its gut is, 50% Armor penetration, Able to role and jump , Claw attack like the tek claws. 

 

   

[TR-8R]

Breedable Basilisk please .....

[Kwikwilyaqa]

53 minutes ago, Udam said:

(...)

Moth: Able to Produce Silk and is Able to Change Its Gas From Pharmons , to make everything Go berserk , to A Blinding Gas and Even and A fertilized one where it Helps Crops Grow like a Crop Duster and can Hold gas then flying to Gas a Whole area. and can be upgraded with Oxygen bar 

Mantis: Able to Have armor, shields, Jump , Able to breed and new look.

(...)

I like the Moth idea. I don't like to rely so much on Gachas for every resource that they don't add to maps as expansions go further and desert armor and whips are very good to have in all the maps. Passive silk or maybe boiling its eggs for silk is a very nice addition with pretty much zero effort.

And from my first post in this tread about the Mantis "They should be able to jump/glide like terror birds and have a way to equip/unequip/swap tools. And the fact they can't breed is annoying." They have saddles, so no need for armor. They need free passage to AB too. They are useless elsewhere and aberration is literally a paradise made for them - they have a stupid long (when you add all the stuff you need to tame a high level one) and costly taming process to be what they are now.

[Udam]

25 minutes ago, Kwikwilyaqa said:

I like the Moth idea. I don't like to rely so much on Gachas for every resource that they don't add to maps as expansions go further and desert armor and whips are very good to have in all the maps. Passive silk or maybe boiling its eggs for silk is a very nice addition with pretty much zero effort.

well the Silk Idea was going to be added but they didn't for some reason they didn't and many people talk about that. so that goes for everyone when they talk about the Moth TLC

 

The Spore Idea was my Buddy idea cuz he loves moths. lol 

[Owataday]

On 3/12/2020 at 12:17 PM, Udam said:

TLC ideas!

 

some of these are from my old post but i updated them!

  

Sabertooth: "new Look , able to Sneak to do bonus damage (and can Hold Small size prey if pounced) and able to move and jump side to side"

Mammoth: Able to shoot water out, new look , platform saddle , and a herd boost" (water dose damage and if its cold water then it will slowly freeze the dino) and give boost against the cold so you don't freeze 

 Carno: able to turn around in a 360 to attack targets behind you, When Ruining you move faster and if you Attack while running you do a charge, Rage is gain each time he is hit and once Full he will do extra Damage and More damage resistance but food will drain much faster, Kick! due to its Strong legs it can do a Very strong kick to stun!

Carbonemys: new look , able to hide in shell , able to flip on his back and spin like a saw blade but its nearly uncontrollable, a snapping turtle jaw that allows it to eat fish meat, Somewhat faster Swimming and able to spin in water.

Megaloceros, increases size (2xs to be exact ) and new look , male able to kick in the back, gets a outnumbered effect where if there's more creatures that can hurt it i gets stronger, and antlers cause Bleed, Female Increase Carry weight , Able to kick back and causes males to be more aggressive

 Quetzal: "new look, increase stamina the higher you are, adrenaline effect allows it to move much Faster for a lot and all resources from metal ingots to buildings wight is cut by 75%, able to Flap wings like wyvern to get stuff away ,

".Pteranodon: "new look ,Able to dive like a owl, able to dive in the water to kill fish, and able to Grapple on walls". can give down. if attacked in a group they will attack you and try to pick you up!

Pelagornis: "able to dive underwater for a short period of time, get a boost when fishing , when eating fish you can get Organic polly , oil , chitten , prime fish meat , leech blood and ammonite bile , able to get organic polly by killing dodos but if you kill anything that has natural polly on them you get 3x more. also megalodons ,  ichthys and leeds swim way from them due to them being one of their predators 

Bronto: "new look, Fixed feet, neck stands up tall , able to destroy stone (With Heavy Stomp!)  stomp heavy attack , tail wack , Front Bash and able to Stand on its Feet, The Giga of Herbivores"

. Stego:"new look ,  Able to hold its atack to do even more damage , new look , a roar to recruit wild Stegos to your side like the yuty, herd boost, alpha gets a stun effect". better run (similar to Kentro), And Bite!

Terror bird: armor piercing 15%, new look, Claw scratch , more prime meat gathering, pack boost with call". when Hovering in the air they can do a Scratch with both claws in mid air and causes Bleed"

Titanoboa:" Both Venomous and a constrictor, ride able , Breed able , Able to Grapple on Big dinos and sufficient them and bite for torpor, able to get eggs without Agro".

Spider: "Able to climb walls , Uses webs to reinforce Buildings with its webs , Faster speed, Jump, A stamina drain bite, able to shoot webs and weakens effected target and new look".

 Frog: "auto lock on Bugs and increase damage to all bugs and new look". able to get Prime meat from bugs. Bug killing boost. and gather More Past when killing bigger bugs.

Theryzenio: new look, Claw Combo (like tek claws. they get faster and faster when Slashing)

Giga: "Rage can be controlled by trying to claim it down but if it keeps taking damage it will get mad, when it roars is weaken enemies for 1 min with cool down' when done raging it will get a tired effect where Stamina Gets low and torpor rises AND new look"

Diplodocus: "not able to directly but can crack its tail like a wipe, can make even the biggest carnivore run! Decrease Weight on Natural resources and new look".

Patchy: " slight size increases, Causes More torpor, new look, increases Damage resistance, Pack boost , and Can break Doors not gates (note: only low end doors) and can Gather up stone, flint and Metal as a Early on Anky

Wyvern: "able to aim attack like managarmer"

Megalodon:" new look , able to sense weak enemies Like the wolf, a Heath boost when eating a corps, Feeding frenzy Buff when killing alot of animals, much better turn, Tons of Teeth!

Plesio: able to stick its head out of the water, new look , able to turn in a 360 to attack., and Flipper Slap that knocks dinos back, head Retracks to its body so if a Dino is attacking you he can get his head in the right area to attack, and has a very high Melee Length 

Basilo: AOE heal abilty for water, Has a O2 bar so you can survive deep under the water, Able to carry two people.

Mosa: "New look, Tail attack for the Back". and able to do a roar that acts like a yuty roar (only the fear part but it weakens dinos instead of making them go out of control. Move Quickly when going up and down.

Angler: "New look and Able in increases and decreases Light and able to scare off eels and jellyfish way",

Jellyfish: "A timer to stun you and your able to swim away".

Scorpion: new look, buttons for claws and Stinger, able to produce narcoice's per hour, able to Inject KO dinos with Venom. and a AOE Tail Spin 

Moth: Able to Produce Silk and is Able to Change Its Gas From Pharmons , to make everything Go berserk , to A Blinding Gas and Even and A fertilized one where it Helps Crops Grow like a Crop Duster, able to Land on walls like a Tappy and more stamina 

 Monkey: New look , and Has A crafting Skin that can help You when you craft stuff.

Dimetrodon: Acts like A living trough For Babies ,Keeps the Area Cool or warm, easier tame, Plays with babys to Up imprint (has cool down)

Paracer: Able to Back Kick Like A GIANT horse , new look , and Has 25% Armor, more trample, Neck WIPE!

Kapro: New look and Able to Jump high, Pounce does more damage Agents Big Dinos and Flyers, able to Punch off the kapro, and takes no fall damage.

Anky : New look and Smother animations a GATHER option Like moschops. to gather different resources and it could be a bit more viable for combat!

Dode: New look and smoother animations  a GATHER option like moscops. to gather stuff! and when it rolls you can turn it and it could be like a base game rolerat "but not good for structures And saddle could be built/look like the rolerat saddle

Piranha: Acts like hyena attacks if your weak  and new look.

Baryonyx: able to uses its claws on land, Timer for Tail spin for spam, Does more damage against water dinos, New look , Heals super quick if it eats prime fish

Perlova: Able to ride and Berrow Underground Like A basilisk But Not as Good and new look

 Morellatops: Able to upgrade Water storage. new look and able to carry 3 people, and can shoot water from mouth to deal damage. (due to the heat its boiling)

Thorny Dragon: Able to Bite witch is venomous and better at getting wood, Better Spike Damage. Rapid Fire mode, 

Chailco: New look, and option to throw poop, AOE slamb, can feed berrys to tame but beer is still better.

Dillo: Able to ride due to it being slightly bigger then a Pachy, Your first carnivore, Better Spit range, Bite that drains a Bit of Stamina, Slight faster, new look , Able to shoot your frill and it will scare away Small or mid dinos. able to jump. weak in terms of Hp but they heal faster if you give them Narcos.

Dung beetle able to pick up poop

 Bigfoot able to hold tools 

, Bats size decrease To ride your shoulder, and can spawn in jungles and swamps 

Diens running way/ Random passive Flee, Can spawn Randomly in the wild but if two Mate boosted ones are next to each other they make a Nest like A beaver dam

Thylo: claw swipe, Better Climb , Fast Claw swipe

Enforcer: Have Natural Armor, Drones can Repair, Feeding it element makes it go into "overdrive" its 3Xs stronger!

Phiomias: drops Prime meat at least 2 , Phiomias would Drop a unique kind of Poop called Phiomia Droppings," when feed to a dung Beetle you get more fertilizer and Netro which is a substitute for Gunpowder" 

Megalania: able to spawn on the surface (mostly Swamps) , can spit a venom like dillo that Poisons People/Dinos , rabies can infect dinos, able to Attack Wild animals, 

Kentro: able to ride with a specially made saddle, like the thorny dragon , but with the saddle it does less damage when attacked 

Gailli: able to double jump! wight is reduced, new look , and saddle acts like a mix of a smith and a moder and pestle. 

daeodon: able to spawn in mountains, Swamps and rarely redwoods   ,allow it  can eat veggies as well, better Heal then Owl , Grants a regen buff when tame in healing circle that grants 5xs Natural  HP and Stamina regen 

Ichyornus/seagull: they don't attack if unless you attack it. get able to retrieve items and even resources like wood. and gives fishing boost so you can get loot!

Sacro: Big boost in HP and damage resistance

Duncle: able to get metal , crystal and obsidian from oil rocks, 100% Armor Penetration, can Slowy Digest rocks into a Sack to shoot Rocks at a Very high Speed! like a Catapult!. Craft them in its inventory with Oil , Rock and Obsidian 

Iguanodon:" harvest crops for you!, gathers more seeds , rare flowers and mushrooms! able to gather rare flower seeds  , rare mushroom spores, and on AB you can get the spores to grow your shrooms!, better at combat so its a Nice combat herbivore, and when running you can Hold melee and it will do into a Dash where its runs on its toes and can do Slashes when running.

Beaver: new look:  "able to build dams and can turn wood into "pulp" witch can be a substitute for Cementing paste" 

Compy: new look , when it bites you/anything it gains a bit of HP. has a bite that lowers stam, and is Super Attracted to Corpse's and travel in Big numbers!

Diplocaulus: Size decrease enough for it to ride your shoulder  , same ability with the water, It emits a Smell that used emits a smell that make animals ignore you or run away. 

or it normal size and it when you ride it in water it can insta Kill  trilobites  and eurypterids and can get a ton of chitin , pearls , black pearls and more!

Allo: new look , Less stomping sounds, able to uses it claws! and able to gather a nice bit of prime meat!. Able to climb harder/sloped surfaces with ease (like Tek boots) . and a small jump! like raptor! and reduce fall damage due to them living in the mountains. 

Archy: able to ride your shoulder but it you jump from a height like 4 walls high it acts like if you wear holding him!

kiruku: Able to gather fish for you! and allows eggs to stay at a certain time like 75% 50% 25% or even 1% so it can hold it for you (no matter the size) and new look! also lays eggs like DODO's!
 

Troodon: it makes a loud Clicking sound when hunting you! and it stalks you! Slightly easier to tame. you can drop fertile eggs and they will kill them and give it! and when it bites Dinos they take more damage!

Jerboa: able to alert you to any near by predators (depends on size) 

Hestorois/duck: lays Golden eggs more time depends on size of fish! or number: (it can lay even two) and a hunt ability that allows it to hunt fish! and pirana's fear them!

Manta: able to do a 360 attack and gets a pack boost new look! can tame with meat.

Megatherium: same ability but if he eats Bugs you can get Oil and rarely organic polly (only from bigger bugs) slam Attack thats does a AOE effect

Microraptor: when they see you they screech and they have a stun lock where if you get knock off once it takes 30 secs before they can do it again!

Moschops: Able to gather Fish! new look , and new resources and can get prime meat or fish meat from any animal!

Dimmoth: new look and able to gain a bit of HP when it eats fresh meat!

Pachyrhino: new look!, Attack dose small KO damage! and two ways to emit gas! blast: shoots it forward! and AOE ,  also makes you emin to any gas/chemical effect's!  also able to use new gas and change the types. Pacify: makes dino's that attack you avoid you! Rage: makes dinos have a effect like the ammonite bile and but the dinos won't attack you. just each other or whatever you effected. Allie: much like the yuty roar wear it can alli Wild carnos. this gas can turn a wild dino on your side for around 3 mins. (some dinos are not affected) and Adrenalin: acts like a Weaken Yuty Boost! its gives a small HP heal and Damage resistance boost!

Megalo: New look, able to Move around during the day if they slept enough. able to spawn on the surface. "hunting vision" when its night give a hint of night vision, and dinos are Highlighted with a Red Glow much like a tek helmet (just not as advance can't go through walls) More quiet when moving! and can attack nearly anything if it gets close!

Snail: Able to feed Berries , able to make more Paste and polly. also its able to grow a organic form of "absorbent Subtract and silica"

Tappy: can move on walls like a thylo, and Wight from players is reduced!

Rex: a bloodthirsty effect: happens when you kill a dino it increases damage just a bit but causes it to heal a bit faster and more damage resistance.( goes by % and bigger/stronger the dino the more % you get so if you kill like 10 dodos you can get 0.50%

trike: Takes 85% less damage when attacked in the front (arrows do nothing but bullets still can)  when attacked head first!, Rivalry is boosted, and bigger dinos like rexs , Brontos , spinos etc when they are rammed by the trike get slown and the gash effect! 

Raptor: Jump Height increase, able to jump when attacking in the wild (like a ravager), natural pack boost! and able to "jump attack" when they have their claws out and causes more damage!

Pego: able to get boost when looking in drops!

Woolly rhino: Able to have charge attack (like the trike) and has a small damage resistance do to there hide , Able to harvest ATON of thatch, and can even Harvest Stone and Metal but not as good as a Anky!

Reaper: A small boost in damage. Different Tails can have different Abilities! (Barb tail: Shoots small barbs like the reaper queen , Acid Bomb: Almost like the base tail attack but the falls fall and they blow up into a ball of acid kinda like when the reaper dies but smaller. Able to Roar!

Griffin: Roar/screech that Weakens enemies Damage resistance!  able to attack wild dinos!

Titanosaur: ok this one is debatable but i have a Few ideas! but here's the base idea

new LOOK , Able to weck Spikes and anything under his feet!, NEW attack Tail whip! has natural armor like Reaper.  Last Much longer then TITAN!`

Eurypterid: Able to be tamed and ride!, size increase , New look and animations, Able to "snap its Claws" to make the nearby water "boiled" to kill prey! also has a boost roar like the yuty! can't go on land!

Rock Drake: due to them eating Nameless venom they gain a venom ability that drains HP (5PS) 

Leeds: Size increase. can be tamed! But it's Hard!. Able to ride!  slight new look , Has teeth like sperm whale! Able to Jump out of water like a whale! can Ride! can harvest meat from it! and also loot can be found in him much like a supply drop if you kill a wild one.

 

Otter: Able to gather more Pearls , and deals 40X damage against Fish!  Hunt option for fish! wild otters hunt fish!  

Managarmer: shoots a Ray or ring that does the freeze, Able to hover in mid air, more melee damage.

Ravager: Does Bleed like Dien even when tamed but only the alpha

Human: Better models and can change look kinda like in Atlas body, Muscles, fat , Face , Eyes , Size etc. Human Hotbox are Equal,  Humans have 200 wight to spawn with, movement speed is based off "Adrenalin" from fast dinos and if your about to die, able to eat while underwater or in mid air, they have a Base tempager so you don't just walk in the snow and then just Instant ice cub.  

Defense Unit: Able to build on Extinction and use (called defenders) they are the Tanks for Robots, able to Role and Jump, Slash , heavy slash, and a Overdrive move where the claws become Shock claws and they do more Damage. 

Magmasaur: natural armor, Better smelting (not as good as a Industrial forge but its not as slow as a Refinery Forge), Much better melee, Reduced Damage to Tek and metal but with enough time! you can destroy it.

Bloodstalker: Able to Give a Bit of blood back to you if you are hurt (just heal 3xs faster then normal)

Ferox: in the wild the can go crazy!, Able to feed element Shards as well but you need alot! , Slam does more Knockback!

Leech: when you gain swamp fever it will go away over time and you gain a Sligh immunity for like a hour, if you have a Torch and Melee it will kill them if they are on you!

I salute the effort, some very good samples of what can be done. I do feel wyverns griffins and rock drakes need a lil  bit of attention because you can’t breed and stats vary. I used all 3 in PvP and loved it as I had to make a decision on how I was going to engage the enemy, no point now when I hop on my breed mana and boom I can do it all even after nerf. I miss pteranodon in PvP, it was a blast when they were important but they have been left behind. Best PvP fights that I was in involved pteranodon sky fights. 

[Scribelord]

21 hours ago, Kwikwilyaqa said:

BS at his finest. Even some stuff in aberration need some level of TLC. Look at roll rats, that texture looks like $%¨& and they are not as good gatherers as the good old Ravager+Chainsaw and the damn saddle keeps breaking when you try to use the only good ability it have because it hits EVERYTHING (there is no "clear" space in AB. all the damn place have rocks and dinos). Ravagers are not pack animal by any means - they cannot follow properly, get stuck everywhere (rocks, small steps, vegetation, etc), fail to use lines in groups larger than 2, and to this date they get stuck after kill anything smaller than a T-Rex looking down... they need some love for sure, after all, they are aberration at his best. I feel the saddle needs some new models, not the Ravagers (probably one more color region for the nails to call the models finished), because even the skin looks garbage.

Extinction only can be left out because all 4 (and the titans) are nicely designed with some level of uniqueness and have good models overall (Owls could STFU for a bit longer - not only them, all sound loops needs to be tune down A LOT)...

SE always need some level of TLC too. Poison looks ok, but the other wyverns doesn't look so good (look at the spikes in the lower jaw of the fire wyvern... disgustingly half-done models). Mantis is useless because of the rate it break tools (and the sound bugs that was never fixed) and not even can be brought to AB, the only ark i feel it can be a decent gimmick since damn ankys are so bad to gather crystals (because they are slow to go from node to node) and metal is everywhere (so you actually don't need an anky to be rich AF). Vulture inventory is broken still to this date... Moth, Thorny and Morella are pretty much useless too, i agree. In the end SE have only wyverns with some level of usability (glass cannons)... If not a TLC, SE needs a patch. A long, long waited patch...

Personally I don't think TLC's for Aberration, Extinction, or both Genesis should ever happen.

 

Improvements sure but I think saying they need a full on TLC is abit much.

 

Although Scorched Earth desperately needs one and like I said they created a loophole for the TLC list since scorched was released before the base game and I've actually made a whole page dedicated to a Scorched Earth remake that I'll link below.

 

 

[johnm81]

Like to see Leeds boat attack mechanism removed.

[Dromaeosaur54]

Pteranodon needs a model update. Its face is unpleasant, but the wings are godawful and need to be redone. It's also kind of odd that it doesn't have pycnofibres. I understand that not everything in ark has to be accurate, but all other pterosaurs have pycnofibres and pteranodon looks sort of slimy without them.